Tip Drop Rate
By
Call Me Awesome,
Posted on: 2010-08-22 24:14 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Did you join in the fight, or let them wipe each other out?
I ask because I was solo'ing my Illusionist last night and confusing everything on the map, though it wasn't necessary. I think I picked up four Tips during that one mission.
Otherwise four missions are not enough to determine if drops are not working correctly with regards to Seeds of Confusion. You would have to run something like HeroStats and do dozens, if not hundreds of mission to gather enough data with regards to drops.
I confused the group, then joined into the fight; I got xp but less than I would have without confuse.
I agree that 4 missions is a very small test of it, but I just found it a strange coincidence that I would get a tip as soon as I stop using confuse, especially since on my other characters I'd get at least one in every mission.
Tips seem pretty streaky. I don't think it has anything to do with confuse powers.
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They do indeed, although I've only once gone through a radio mission without having at least one drop... last night I had 2 drop from the very first group and a third dropped about 3 groups later.
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Tips seem pretty streaky. I don't think it has anything to do with confuse powers.
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I've had problems, on one occasion I spent 2 hours and 1000+ kills trying to get the extra tip for the morality mission. Then when I got the tip message on screen and in my chat box, finished the mission and no tip/morality mish actually present. Got there eventually later.|
Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome
They do indeed, although I've only once gone through a radio mission without having at least one drop... last night I had 2 drop from the very first group and a third dropped about 3 groups later.
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They need to put a streakbreaker on this, other occasions it's taken me 4 missions clearing all to get my first tip, then they've flowed fine.
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I've had similar problems where after I play for a while, characters will simply not get tip drops. I even experienced and reported this on beta. But I might get one tip, then not get any tip drops for hundreds of kills. Then as soon as I zone or drop a mission, I start getting them again and can fill up my tip inventory in a couple spawns.|
Originally Posted by Minotaur
I've had problems, on one occasion I spent 2 hours and 1000+ kills trying to get the extra tip for the morality mission. Then when I got the tip message on screen and in my chat box, finished the mission and no tip/morality mish actually present. Got there eventually later.
They need to put a streakbreaker on this, other occasions it's taken me 4 missions clearing all to get my first tip, then they've flowed fine. |
This happens a lot after I've done tips on several characters. I'll get one or two, and then not be able to get any more until I zone or relog.
Although the pattern is somewhat random, it's still consistent enough to have me believe it's a bug and not just luck. For instance, I've never been unable to get my FIRST tip. Just second and sometimes third. It also starts back up as soon as I relog or zone. And it usually doesn't start happening until I've done tons of tips on multiple characters in one day. Never just right off the bat.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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The whole system is annoying overall because of this. It makes it where low damage ATs are less likely to want to convert their characters unless a team is doing these. Personally I wont be doing this on any support ATs until they add a streak breaker. Its already too long of a process to have tips to be this way.
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Too long of a process? Seriously? Do you want to just insta-change alignments? How about an 'I change' button instead?|
Originally Posted by EvilRyu
The whole system is annoying overall because of this. It makes it where low damage ATs are less likely to want to convert their characters unless a team is doing these. Personally I wont be doing this on any support ATs until they add a streak breaker. Its already too long of a process to have tips to be this way.
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Damage doesn't mean a damn thing. Random numbers are random, no matter what you observe. Do it long enough and it starts to converge to the average it's expected to be at.
I've been able to get 5 tips in a few hours, if not sooner, every day I've tried, at lvl 50 and at lvl 32. Never gone more than one mission or a few mobs of street sweeping before getting the first tip, and usually getting several more tips during a current tip mission.
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Go to Dark Astoria, Terra Volta, Sharkhead, or Nerva. Defeat only bosses. If you spend more than 10 minutes without tips you have done counting tip missions that day.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
The whole system is annoying overall because of this. It makes it where low damage ATs are less likely to want to convert their characters unless a team is doing these. Personally I wont be doing this on any support ATs until they add a streak breaker. Its already too long of a process to have tips to be this way.
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yes i go to shark with my lvl 50 got tips in 10 mins
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I managed to receive a 'Get the Loot' paper mish. I set this to +0x8 and it usually gives me 3 tips before the mish ends. This mish is really good for kills because it spawns lots of RIPs once you open the vault. However, I don't click the glowie so I can run it again. 
There was a coalie that needed help getting a morality mish, so I ran Get the Loot for him and he got the drop before we even cleared the first room.
There was one case where I couldn't get any tips. However, all 5 of my public fame counters were still active. I decided to do something else and wait for them to expire. A few hours later, I ran Get the Loot and got tips on my first mob. Just a guess, but there may be some timers involved for tip drops, esp if the public fame counters are still running.
Random drops are random.
Seriously, they really are random. Plenty of times, it SEEMS like they're not. They are.
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Today, while trying to get my Plant/Psi Dominator to go Rogue, I had problems getting tip drops. After doing 4 newspaper missions, I still had no tips even though I was fighting level 27s and 28s, had no tips in my tab, and had 0 public fame. After thinking about what was causing this, the only idea I had was that the experience taken away due to Seeds of Confusion may have been effecting the drop rate.
4 missions using Seeds of Confusion got me no tips, then on the last group of the last mission, I didn't use confusion. My 3rd kill got me a tip. Either this is a very strange coincidence, or the xp cuts from confusion are unfairly crippling the drop rates for tips. Has anyone else noticed this? I sent in a bug report, but was hoping to see if it was just a coincidence based on others' experiences.
EDIT: While doing the mission for the tip I got, I began to use confusion again, and got another tip despite losing xp for the enemy. So maybe a chain of weird coincidences?