Just curious, and Im sure I'll be banned or kicked or something for asking this, but...lol, again on vent we were talking and I have been nominiated to be the one to ask since I really dont care.....
When do we get to vote on new people for the PvPec? Just curious cause I dont remember seeing elections ever held for these positions? Is this kinda like one of these self appointed positions I've been hearing about so much? reality check
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I don't think there is a dichotomy in your last statement (well put by the way). I think if people are having fun (I'm not sure on this, I know we are...dUmb are...GDHRT seems to be, along with Exile) then the points are only mattering for e-swagger and the prizes.|
Originally Posted by CityofChange
Regardless of which side you stand regarding adjusting points retroactively, one thing that can be measured is the alienation happening within the league. Im far more concerned about the bad taste that is developing due to all of these issues. As it sits right now, Champion is the only place for organized arena pvp anywhere in CoH right now. If people involved/participating in the league are assuming we are the only ones paying attention to the results, you are mistaken. As the only organized pvp at the moment, you can be assured there are eyes watching. I'd much rather see a successful season 1 with great momentum going into season 2. Will everyone be happy in the end? I'd hope so...but I know better. But... Is the goal to have everyone happy in the end? Or is the goal a stronger, better, more competitive atmosphere for pvp on CHAMPION server? |
Lite, I know what you are saying on peering eyes. I have held my keystrokes on several issues...I've really tried not to get drama get in the way. I've played everyone that has shown up so they have fun competing.
I just want pvp to grow. Do I want to win? Hell yeah. Did we try playing for a tie? Yes we did. We talked about it on Vent in our second match against 0utcazt and Peril wanted to try a 2 Emp/TA lineup. It didn't work and we benefitted it from it, oddly enough.
Guys, it's critical we just keep fighting and put our best foot forward.
No one knows who is going to win this. I have my own thoughts on who th best 3-4 teams are, but we'll see.
Anyone who was in the Freedom ladder, remember the D6 teams? They were for new players/non-vets. dUmb picked up Pixel, Smallzies, doyler and a few others from that.
Treat this as your "D6" for Champ. Train the new young guns in evasion, give them good builds, answer questions, help them out.
I've been PvPing here for who knows how long; I've always helped people out, goodness knows there's no room for ego where my performances are concerned. But I still plug at it, hoping maybe one person out there wants to play an Ill/Emp or support and gets good at it.
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Also to be quite blunt (and this doesn't apply to everyone that has ties now) but when you bring a "safe" lineup that includes 2-3 healers or tanks in a freaking THREE VS. THREE the last thing you should expect anyone to feel is sorrow for you for getting a tie. Perhaps you weren't trying to get a tie but you damn sure knew your lineup was increasing the chances of it happening and you chose to bring it anyways so deal with it. |
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Now on to the voting issue. First of all enough votes are in on the motion to take ties out of the game. The answer is no. With that being said below is a short list of topics that votes are not allowed on any more. I wanted to be reasonable and not come across as a tyrant and allow Captains some voice in the event but too many personal agenda's that are not for the better of the entire league and only about their own teams winning are shining through.
Now I am going to make one more rule. No more motions for votes on any topic unless you have a minimum of 2 other Captains in favor of supporting it. That means those 2 other Captains and you must send me a p.m. with the same motion proposal. Other wise don't waste my time or the other people in the leagues time who are just here to have fun with vote issues that have no support. P.S. I really don't want to hear about "everyone" on vent agreed to this issue or that issue. People apparently feel making others think they agree with them is more important than keeping it real because every single vote that supposedly had certain people supporting it, didn't. Just because they are your friends on vent and nod their head when you are raging doesn't mean they ACTUALLY agree with you. Reality check. |
TY Kat, well said and let's move on.
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Originally Posted by XxBudweiser8xX
Just curious, and Im sure I'll be banned or kicked or something for asking this, but...lol, again on vent we were talking and I have been nominiated to be the one to ask since I really dont care.....
When do we get to vote on new people for the PvPec? Just curious cause I dont remember seeing elections ever held for these positions? Is this kinda like one of these self appointed positions I've been hearing about so much? reality check |
You volunteer, run events and try to grow PvP interest.
Kat is running this, and overlooking other server events.
Questions about the game, either side? /t @Neuronia or @Neuronium, with your queries!
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Originally Posted by Neuronia
I don't think there's a vote Bud, though I'll gladly be corrected.
You volunteer, run events and try to grow PvP interest. Kat is running this, and overlooking other server events. |
Did our approval notices get lost in the mail or something?
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No, they were declined.
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Originally Posted by XxBudweiser8xX
Weird cause ELF and I have both volunteered for this several times....
Did our approval notices get lost in the mail or something? |
you are however more than welcome to run events under your own names and/ or sg's.
Being you seem to get off on publicly challenging me here are your answers.
1. We volunteer to be PvPEC reps. There is no voting. There also is no long line of people waiting to volunteer.
2. Your applications were ignored by me. If I felt for one minute that either one of you were sincere in wanting to run events for the community and would follow the PvPEC rules which includes not causing drama, not trolling people, adhering to the EULA and respecting all other players including other PvPEC reps and including me you wouldn't have been ignored.
3. When both of your volunteered once, not several times as you claimed was the day after being banned by me from PvPEC events at all. As someone pointed out on that thread in question that sorta disqualifies you from participating in the PvPEC now doesn't it?
4. I let you back in to participating on your word that the drama was over and past history was squashed. However from day one your posts have been challenging me and at points totally disrespecting me to say the least. Your tells to me in game have been rude, demanding and simply being a ******** for no reason. Also do not think for one minute the other PvPEC reps that you have threatened, verbally assaulted and have treated badly has went unnoticed either.
5. If it wasn't for your team members who are just here to have fun I would probably put myself out of my own misery and just ban you again. I am trying to be the bigger person here though but to be blunt you are a dikk hairs length away from riding my very last nerve. I know you don't care so keep being passive aggressive and it will be what it is.
6. I decide who joins the PvPEC. I also decide how I am going to run the events that I volunteer my time to run. Don't like it then keep it moving to events that you do like how they are ran, or since you are so community oriented, run some yourself with your rules your way.
7. I don't plan on banning you simply because you are rude or nasty to me. However I will put you and your 234234 accounts on ignore and then when you need to ask me a question that are legitimate you will get no response. It will also mean you get no vote as a Captain on issues. So your choice how you handle this from now on big boy.
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Weird cause ELF and I have both volunteered for this several times....
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
Being you seem to get off on publicly challenging me here are your answers.
1. We volunteer to be PvPEC reps. There is no voting. There also is no long line of people waiting to volunteer. 2. Your applications were ignored by me. If I felt for one minute that either one of you were sincere in wanting to run events for the community and would follow the PvPEC rules which includes not causing drama, not trolling people, adhering to the EULA and respecting all other players including other PvPEC reps and including me you wouldn't have been ignored. 3. When both of your volunteered once, not several times as you claimed was the day after being banned by me from PvPEC events at all. As someone pointed out on that thread in question that sorta disqualifies you from participating in the PvPEC now doesn't it? 4. I let you back in to participating on your word that the drama was over and past history was squashed. However from day one your posts have been challenging me and at points totally disrespecting me to say the least. Your tells to me in game have been rude, demanding and simply being a ******** for no reason. Also do not think for one minute the other PvPEC reps that you have threatened, verbally assaulted and have treated badly has went unnoticed either. 5. If it wasn't for your team members who are just here to have fun I would probably put myself out of my own misery and just ban you again. I am trying to be the bigger person here though but to be blunt you are a dikk hairs length away from riding my very last nerve. I know you don't care so keep being passive aggressive and it will be what it is. 6. I decide who joins the PvPEC. I also decide how I am going to run the events that I volunteer my time to run. Don't like it then keep it moving to events that you do like how they are ran, or since you are so community oriented, run some yourself with your rules your way. 7. I don't plan on banning you simply because you are rude or nasty to me. However I will put you and your 234234 accounts on ignore and then when you need to ask me a question that are legitimate you will get no response. It will also mean you get no vote as a Captain on issues. So your choice how you handle this from now on big boy. |
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
Being you seem to get off on publicly challenging me here are your answers.
1. We volunteer to be PvPEC reps. There is no voting. There also is no long line of people waiting to volunteer. 2. Your applications were ignored by me. If I felt for one minute that either one of you were sincere in wanting to run events for the community and would follow the PvPEC rules which includes not causing drama, not trolling people, adhering to the EULA and respecting all other players including other PvPEC reps and including me you wouldn't have been ignored. 3. When both of your volunteered once, not several times as you claimed was the day after being banned by me from PvPEC events at all. As someone pointed out on that thread in question that sorta disqualifies you from participating in the PvPEC now doesn't it? 4. I let you back in to participating on your word that the drama was over and past history was squashed. However from day one your posts have been challenging me and at points totally disrespecting me to say the least. Your tells to me in game have been rude, demanding and simply being a ******** for no reason. Also do not think for one minute the other PvPEC reps that you have threatened, verbally assaulted and have treated badly has went unnoticed either. 5. If it wasn't for your team members who are just here to have fun I would probably put myself out of my own misery and just ban you again. I am trying to be the bigger person here though but to be blunt you are a dikk hairs length away from riding my very last nerve. I know you don't care so keep being passive aggressive and it will be what it is. 6. I decide who joins the PvPEC. I also decide how I am going to run the events that I volunteer my time to run. Don't like it then keep it moving to events that you do like how they are ran, or since you are so community oriented, run some yourself with your rules your way. 7. I don't plan on banning you simply because you are rude or nasty to me. However I will put you and your 234234 accounts on ignore and then when you need to ask me a question that are legitimate you will get no response. It will also mean you get no vote as a Captain on issues. So your choice how you handle this from now on big boy. |
Angry post from Critical Kat deals over 9,000 points of internet damage! Insane ultra angry-shutdown-on-the-internets explodes for 230482340382 points of negative e-peen damage.
BTW Kat, this is for you.
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Seriously Bud. Be the bigger man, take your good PvP skills and mentor your team and others here. I know you can do it, I've seen you bring PoN and the Champion server together for tons of events in the past.
Look at it as a point of pride. If you can take the high road, your SG will respect you and everyone else on the server that has had rocky histories with you will at least gain some additional esteem for you.
GL in your matches.
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For the record, my post of records/standings wasn't intended as evidence for retroactive changes. I wouldn't approve of retroactive changes and certainly wouldn't approve of starting over. The point was willy-nilly structureless voting = willy-nilly results. Thankfully Kat put most of that to bed by taking a hard line on the contentious issues - GJ there.|
Originally Posted by Tamerlayne
That above is plainly not a good representation/ranking.
1st place has the same amount of games as second but second has 1 more win and 1 less loss and both are the same on ties? 5th should be ahead of current 3rd, 7th should be ahead of both 4 and 6, 4th? come on they should be next to last along with 6th. No sense does that standing make. [snip] So either call this a test and start over (new Week1) or retroactively adjust things, 3 weeks is not that long either way to do things right. Shrug just the outsider, with a more level head, laughing while hearing and reading and watching this farce. |
Also, maybe it's just that I'm sheltered by the good-natured team I've been lucky enough to be a part of, but when it comes to PvP events, the forums always look like a total shitstorm, whereas the events themselves are generally very amicable and fun. If you're just laughing from the outside at this "farce", you're missing out. Grab a toon, find a team, get yerself in on some fun.
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Also, maybe it's just that I'm sheltered by the good-natured team I've been lucky enough to be a part of, but when it comes to PvP events, the forums always look like a total shitstorm, whereas the events themselves are generally very amicable and fun. If you're just laughing from the outside at this "farce", you're missing out. Grab a toon, find a team, get yerself in on some fun. |
Couldn't agree more, I've been having a blast with our team.
Exit's been carrying us, but Peril's been Obi-Wan Kenobi dispensing wisdom.
Joe's been more like Han Solo shooting stuff, while I've been one of the extras sleeping in a corner. We won't even get started on Philly, she's like the rookie that keeps it fun for us all.
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On the note of me being decline reason? cause you peeps don't like me.. Shouldn't be reason why were or me be decline. We have done events and rank my Villain SG to the top. Being playign the game for years and well known on the server and others. I got decline cause our personal conflict with Kat and that the damn truth.
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That is correct, as Cherry said above... People need to be able to get along and as she (Kat) is the head of PvPEC on our server that seems to be how the cookie crumbles...
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Originally Posted by ELF_STALKER
On the note of me being decline reason? cause you peeps don't like me.. Shouldn't be reason why were or me be decline. We have done events and rank my Villain SG to the top. Being playign the game for years and well known on the server and others. I got decline cause our personal conflict with Kat and that the damn truth.
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Actually it has very little to do with me not liking you. Trust me there are members of the PvPEC I don't like at all. Same when I was 1st chair of PERC.
New members have to be approved by the existing members on the server. Being we have to work together and get a long. You were not approved unanimously by the other reps on this server and I am not talking about me.
Also to be quite honest smack talking, telling new pvpr's their builds suck, arguing, calling people names , saying negative things about pvp, or NCsoft etc is not allowed by reps. So really no point in me even giving someone a chance who participates in that type of behavior to only have NC or myself have to remove them from the committee anyways. Pretend like you actually care what people think about you or how you are perceived in the Community and I will personally give you my job, worker of everything and head of nothing in the PvPEC.
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On the note of me being decline reason? cause you peeps don't like me.. Shouldn't be reason why were or me be decline. We have done events and rank my Villain SG to the top. Being playign the game for years and well known on the server and others. I got decline cause our personal conflict with Kat and that the damn truth.
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So you basically have to be a mindless automaton?
Pretty much so. If you notice you never see me publicly talking badly about pvp. However you know me personally and have been on vent with me when I have said less than charming things......
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So you basically have to be a mindless automaton?
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Pretty much so. If you notice you never see me publicly talking badly about pvp. However you know me personally and have been on vent with me when I have said less than charming things......
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Devs are baddos.
I should clarify that I empathize with STA's and 0utcazt's situation as should most because the point system was flawed.
But at this point, I also think most would agree with me in hoping this league doesn't fragment itself to were it falls apart.
That should be everyone's focus right now. People are too concerned about placement, points, ties, healer limits, winning, etc at the expense of the league. Let's make sure we have a league to play the next 11 weeks.
- Convenient - //\ - Exile - //\ - AatC -
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Couldn't agree more, I've been having a blast with our team.
Exit's been carrying us, but Peril's been Obi-Wan Kenobi dispensing wisdom. Joe's been more like Han Solo shooting stuff, while I've been one of the extras sleeping in a corner. We won't even get started on Philly, she's like the rookie that keeps it fun for us all. |
Joe really shined last Saturday...
Kara you have been the light at the end of our tunnel...
Philly loves playing for the sake of playing more then any other person i know atm...
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Well that rules me out.
I'M A baddo. |
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Originally Posted by CityofChange
I also think most would agree with me in hoping this league doesn't fragment itself to were it falls apart.
That should be everyone's focus right now. People are too concerned about placement, points, ties, healer limits, winning, etc at the expense of the league. Let's make sure we have a league to play the next 11 weeks. |
Find this mentality please...this game is bad...
Let's try and be good in the meantime...
P.S. I WANT SOME KICKBACK OR AT LEAST SOME ROYALTY ON THE 3 OF YOU WHO ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO COPY MY DOM...IT'S AWESOME WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT AND NEW TO YOUR MINDZ RIGHT?...KKTHXBYE!
The most merciful thing in the world, I think,
is the inability of the human mind
to correlate all its contents.
-H.P. Lovecraft
all sorts of fifties...
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*FIXT Oz <3 |
BTW, you're not the only one playing a dominator.
(See what I did thar???
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Honestly I couldn't even tell you what the prizes are cause that's not why I wanted to join, same with the league I didn't even know there where prizes until people started lol'ing about t-shirts. I don't get why winning is more important to some teams then just having fun. There is so little organized PvP why muck it up with pointless drama? Just have fun, play for fun and you win in the way that's important.
Re PvPEC (and PERC) these groups have a hard enough time keeping a good name for themselves as it is. I know on Justice when I joined PERC it was like lol PERC. Freedom PvPEC is the same way it's lol PvPEC. So add in rep's who are confrontational, rude, and are doing this for all the wrong reasons ( I don't know either of you but this is my impression now from this thread alone) and you have destroyed any headway the PvPEC has made. Also when you do misbehave and are a rep you get the smack down hard. In truth there is little reason to join you can have your own events you can ask for gold titles etc. That said CK has my ultimate respect the league was a success in gettig new people into PvP and it was a blast and if this ladder makes it past the drama she will have run the only 2 organized PvP events to have made it past a few weeks in this dwindling PvP community (r.i.p. the test ladder) and I doubt anyone other than other PvPEC reps have a clue as to the amount of work running something like this takes. She was totally talking about me re the hating people in PERC thing though 
On a side note I posted on dUmb's forums about joining one of their forming teams beause they have the best PvP attitude, everyone could learn by their attitude and sportsmanship. They where always my favorite team to go against in the league because win or loose you where bound to have fun. I am a complete and total liability to my team and they still play me and like me so A&C rocks 
"Play Nice and BEHAVE! I don't want to hear about any more of your shenanigans brought up in our meetings at Paragon"-Ghost Falcon @Tritonfree @Philly's 2nd Convenient CIGAL BoBC/INOANN Arts&Crafts Sporks
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Honestly I couldn't even tell you what the prizes are cause that's not why I wanted to join, same with the league I didn't even know there where prizes until people started lol'ing about t-shirts. I don't get why winning is more important to some teams then just having fun. There is so little organized PvP why muck it up with pointless drama? Just have fun, play for fun and you win in the way that's important.
Re PvPEC (and PERC) these groups have a hard enough time keeping a good name for themselves as it is. I know on Justice when I joined PERC it was like lol PERC. Freedom PvPEC is the same way it's lol PvPEC. So add in rep's who are confrontational, rude, and are doing this for all the wrong reasons ( I don't know either of you but this is my impression now from this thread alone) and you have destroyed any headway the PvPEC has made. Also when you do misbehave and are a rep you get the smack down hard. In truth there is little reason to join you can have your own events you can ask for gold titles etc. That said CK has my ultimate respect the league was a success in gettig new people into PvP and it was a blast and if this ladder makes it past the drama she will have run the only 2 organized PvP events to have made it past a few weeks in this dwindling PvP community (r.i.p. the test ladder) and I doubt anyone other than other PvPEC reps have a clue as to the amount of work running something like this takes. She was totally talking about me re the hating people in PERC thing though On a side note I posted on dUmb's forums about joining one of their forming teams beause they have the best PvP attitude, everyone could learn by their attitude and sportsmanship. They where always my favorite team to go against in the league because win or loose you where bound to have fun. I am a complete and total liability to my team and they still play me and like me so A&C rocks |
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ty Yeah, we're pretty calm for the most part...except for Pixel. That dude rages like 24-7. Oh, and our team is starting a side competition for most matches missed during this league. I think Lib's putting some bbq pork up for prizes, though I'm not sure how well it'll keep through December. Pixel and Mebs are falling behind by actually showing up to all our matches so far. lol@them
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On a side note I posted on dUmb's forums about joining one of their forming teams beause they have the best PvP attitude, everyone could learn by their attitude and sportsmanship. They where always my favorite team to go against in the league because win or loose you where bound to have fun. I am a complete and total liability to my team and they still play me and like me so A&C rocks
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If you are in 32423423 place and feel like you should be in 1st and you are not happy and enjoying yourself in participating GTFO. It really is that simple at this point.
Every single team that feels like they were jipped out of points has absolutely NO ONE to blame but themselves. Yes I will admit my initial point system was not the best it could be regardless of my good intentions of simply trying to solve the problem of tie playing teams. However that point system was in black and white and you agreed to it when you joined. Not only that but PerilX quoted the flawed point system out before one single match occurred right here in this thread and not one single Captain made a motion to change it. It wasn't important enough to warrant a change until it was your team that was affected by the ties.
Also to be quite blunt (and this doesn't apply to everyone that has ties now) but when you bring a "safe" lineup that includes 2-3 healers or tanks in a freaking THREE VS. THREE the last thing you should expect anyone to feel is sorrow for you for getting a tie. Perhaps you weren't trying to get a tie but you damn sure knew your lineup was increasing the chances of it happening and you chose to bring it anyways so deal with it.
Now on to the voting issue. First of all enough votes are in on the motion to take ties out of the game. The answer is no. With that being said below is a short list of topics that votes are not allowed on any more. I wanted to be reasonable and not come across as a tyrant and allow Captains some voice in the event but too many personal agenda's that are not for the better of the entire league and only about their own teams winning are shining through.
No more vote motions accepted on the following changes.
- CHANGING THE POINT SYSTEM
- LIMITING AT'S OR BUILD TYPES
- LIMITING MAPS
- TIES
- SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO RULES FOR INDIVIDUALS
- ANYTHING BEING RETROACTIVE. (UNLESS OF COURSE ITS IN REGARDS TO ALL OF YOU BEING MY PERSONAL CYBORZ SLAVES, THEN OF COURSE ITS RETROACTIVE.)
Now I am going to make one more rule. No more motions for votes on any topic unless you have a minimum of 2 other Captains in favor of supporting it. That means those 2 other Captains and you must send me a p.m. with the same motion proposal. Other wise don't waste my time or the other people in the leagues time who are just here to have fun with vote issues that have no support.P.S. I really don't want to hear about "everyone" on vent agreed to this issue or that issue. People apparently feel making others think they agree with them is more important than keeping it real because every single vote that supposedly had certain people supporting it, didn't. Just because they are your friends on vent and nod their head when you are raging doesn't mean they ACTUALLY agree with you. Reality check.
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