2 builds, 1 freespec?


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i suggest that you give 2 freespecs when they are handed out. thanks


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i suggest that you give 2 freespecs when they are handed out. thanks
As is isn't that impossible since you cannot have more than one freespec?

And from a business point of view why would one do that when the small subset of people who use Dual Builds and need to respec both can either run a Trial, buy an IO or just spend some RL monies on the second one.


 

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As is isn't that impossible since you cannot have more than one freespec?

And from a business point of view why would one do that when the small subset of people who use Dual Builds and need to respec both can either run a Trial, buy an IO or just spend some RL monies on the second one.
they can make it possible.

from a customer service point of view...


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they can make it possible.

from a customer service point of view...

There are three separate options available to you if you feel you need another respec, use them.


 

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from a customer service point of view...
...for something that is free?

Plus, you were warned that freespecs were coming (10 Aug in this case) and that you could have used one prior to the application, then use the new one after the application.


 

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I'd probably be safe in assuming that far fewer than 50% of the characters in the game make use of that "second build" feature. I'd bet there are a lot of people who don't even realize it exists. Heck even across all my alts I only have second builds on a few of them.

While I'm not technically against the idea of getting two freespecs at a time I suspect the Devs would never see the justification for it for all sorts of reasons. *shrugs*


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If the OP wants to respec he can use one of the many options we already have available.


 

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Theyvve always said free-pecs dont stack...everyone whos played this a while knows this. including you. there are other options for respecs....unsigned


 

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I'd probably be safe in assuming that far fewer than 50% of the characters in the game make use of that "second build" feature. I'd bet there are a lot of people who don't even realize it exists. Heck even across all my alts I only have second builds on a few of them.

While I'm not technically against the idea of getting two freespecs at a time I suspect the Devs would never see the justification for it for all sorts of reasons. *shrugs*
50%? I use it on maybe 10% of my characters, so figuring that many folks don't know it exists, some know it but rarely use it, and some use it for most of thier characters......*random guess*....10-15% of characters?

I doubt there's any way for us to know.


 

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i suggest that you give 2 freespecs when they are handed out. thanks
When dual builds first came out, this was an issue some people had with it. Not an original suggestion, not a necessary one, as they're giving you something for free, and you're asking for double? Respecs these days seem to be worthless to me. Nearly every issue we get one, we get them as vet rewards, we've got the three trials, you can buy them with cash monies, or inf off the market, you can even buy with with you HAM/VAMs I believe. So many options open, there is absolutely no need whatsoever for the devs to give us two freespecs, not to mention, spend time making it so freespecs stack.

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sorry all but i /unsign the /unsigned which can't be /unsigned.

we get freespecs because when the devs change powers and such it affects our build.

some of us use more than one build so it is good customer service to provide a freespec for that build as well.

sorry but it is not good to force customers to use up other methods for respecs when changes are made.

oh and a 3rd build is coming too lol.


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Yeah I only used the Respec ONCE. That was to fix the powers I accidently over-slotted. Besides the repecs I get for my Arachnos Villains, I have no real reason to use them. A respec is just a do-over on your current powerset. By level 38, a normal toon already has all the powers in it's powerlist. If you respec you just choose the same moves and only interested in messing with the slots. If they give you a second respec, soon you'll want another one as a "just in case I mess up on the first two". Hell the only reason I even bother to do the trials is the badges. I wish I could just sell the respec or trade it to any new toons I make. I'm sorry but your request is just absurd. And what's this about "using up other options"? The trials are free to do. You have a choice of either paying for a respec or playing for a respec. Just pick which ever one you can do and be done with it.


 

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we get freespecs because when the devs change powers and such it affects our build.
No. We get freespecs because the devs are nice. They are under no obligation to give us anything for free. NCSoft has never put anything in writing promising to give us freespecs. They are simply a gesture of good will given out by by the company.

We are lucky that they are generous enough to give one to every character on our accounts when they could just as easily only give them to the characters that had the particular power-sets that were changed.

Get over your entitlement issues and be grateful the devs are as generous as they are.


 

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oh and a 3rd build is coming too lol.

Really?

I may not scour the Dev's Announcements, but I haven't heard that. I was under the impression that not that many characters use thier second build option and haven't seen ANY people clamoring for a third (yet). Link please?


 

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Really?

I may not scour the Dev's Announcements, but I haven't heard that. I was under the impression that not that many characters use thier second build option and haven't seen ANY people clamoring for a third (yet). Link please?
There was no announcement. I believe that when a character got the Incarnate slot in the closed beta you also got a third build. During beta I had a character that could access three builds.

Since that was beta there's no guarantee that it will actually be released along with the Incarnate slots. But the code for it existed at one time.

I'd guess the devs would like to award one respec per build you've leveled up in order to be consistent with the way the free tailor sessions work, but the freespec code currently only handles one at a time. The devs could award a regular respec for each build, but it would require writing a database script that gets run for an issue. If I were them I would be hesitant to add yet one more thing to the issue release cycle, and I'd also be hesitant to invest resources in making it possible to issue multiple freespecs, since it affects so few players.

But I did bring up this issue during beta because I knew other people would have the same question.


 

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Really?

I may not scour the Dev's Announcements, but I haven't heard that. I was under the impression that not that many characters use thier second build option and haven't seen ANY people clamoring for a third (yet). Link please?
It was mentioned during one of the announcements OR Q&A to do with Incarnates that there would be a third build available. Im not sure if that build was the only one with the Incarnate slot or not, it was all a little hazey.


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The idea behind it was that the incarnate stuff does not exemplar at all.

So you have a 50+incarnate build, a 50 but exemps build, then the regular alternate/PVP/soloing build



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I see. Thank you.

I was suspecting that someone was inventing things out of misunderstandings, assumptions or thin air.