Jolting Chain and Conductive Aura ?


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I have a little level 8 Dominator that now has both of these powers, and am curious as to other players experiences with these powers.

So far I think Conductive Aura is doing a pretty decent job of sapping my opponents and keeping my own blue bar from bottoming out. Can anyone recommend slotting for this? Right now I'm thinking 2 End Mods for quicker sapping?

I'm not sure what I am supposed to be doing with Jolting Chain? It knock opponents down, which is a nice soft control, but they get up pretty quick and seem pretty miffed at me. The damage is too low to be treated as an attack (which is OK with me). I'm thinking the best use of this power is an IO mule for knockback protection and recharge via the Kinetic Crash set. Is there a good strategic use for this power? I like using it (because flopping fish are funny!), but I feel like I could probably be using it better?

Any insight from more experienced users is appreciated, thanks.


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I'd be careful about using KB sets in Jolting. It has a .66 mag kb so it does knockdown. Adding enh (and almost all pieces of the KB sets add more kb) will increase the mag >1, which will knockback, away from your Aura (and everybody else). Not what you want.

My Dom is only lvl 10, but I think both are useful. JC recharges pretty quickly and CA seems surprisingly effective at sapping.

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Solo, I use Jolting Chain to open--having the enemies spend time on their butts in waves softens up the alpha pretty well. I'm only at level 7, though, so I'm not sure where it'll sit in my esteem once I have more options.


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Originally Posted by Kelenar View Post
Solo, I use Jolting Chain to open--having the enemies spend time on their butts in waves softens up the alpha pretty well. I'm only at level 7, though, so I'm not sure where it'll sit in my esteem once I have more options.
I think it'll still be useful, Elec seems to be about layering various sorts of control on top of one another rather than just firing off an AOE and everything being dealt with for 30 seconds, which I like.


 

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Looking at the numbers, I'd drop an Accuracy and a couple of Endurance Modifications into Conductive Aura, to ensure you not only hit them, but drain them quickly.

With Jolting Chain, it recharges very quickly already, so I'm actually contemplating maxing out the slotting on it and giving it three Recharge Reductions, an Accuracy or two, and an Endurance Reduction, because it's something i'd want to use every chance I get. If I were to go lighter on the slotting, I'd still want to put an Accuracy and at least one Recharge in it. Though pure minimal slotting would be one Accuracy, and saving the slots for other powers (like Static Field).


 

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At first I couldn't figure out how to deal with jolting chain. It made no sense to me that anyone would bother taking this power at all.

And then I got conductive aura and the lightbulb went off.

Elec Control on a dom is going to be awesome for any dom that loves to stay in melee. Keep them bouncing all around you with JC while CA saps them clean while you pound the snot out of them with melee attacks.

My current dom is elec/ene because I had been having so much fun with my grav/ene all due to the high range damage of /energy. It's so easy to keep everything Out of melee with that combo, I assumed I'd want to do the same here.

Now I have to rethink my build completely for melee carnage and yes, I will have JC slotted 2acc/3rec-red/1end and plan to spam the hell out of it.


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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
Elec Control on a dom is going to be awesome for any dom that loves to stay in melee. Keep them bouncing all around you with JC while CA saps them clean while you pound the snot out of them with melee attacks.
These are basically my thoughts on elec so far. I went elec/elec, because the primary looks like it'll support spending every moment in melee range, and electric assault enjoys that.


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Originally Posted by Kelenar View Post
These are basically my thoughts on elec so far. I went elec/elec, because the primary looks like it'll support spending every moment in melee range, and electric assault enjoys that.
My dom is elec/elec as well, and I chose the combo specifically because I wanted to be a 'scraptroller'.

I haven't gotten to the sleep power yet, but does anyone know if the conductive aura breaks the sleep or allows it to continue?


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Originally Posted by Kinrad View Post
My dom is elec/elec as well, and I chose the combo specifically because I wanted to be a 'scraptroller'.

I haven't gotten to the sleep power yet, but does anyone know if the conductive aura breaks the sleep or allows it to continue?
Well there are really only two ways to break sleep: A change in HP (through healing or damage), and an effect that provides Sleep Protection


Conductive Aura shouldn't break any sleeps because it doesn't damage, heal or give the enemy Sleep Protection.


 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
And then I got conductive aura and the lightbulb went off.

Elec Control on a dom is going to be awesome for any dom that loves to stay in melee. Keep them bouncing all around you with JC while CA saps them clean while you pound the snot out of them with melee attacks.
Heh. I saw the potential of that combo myself but haven't gotten around to playing my brand new Elec/Elec Dom much yet. Glad to know that it seems to be as effective as it sounds. >Grins<


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From what i have noticed playing last night to lvl 16 with my elec/earth imo.

Jolting chain will probly want 2 acc, 1-2 rch. Damage is low to keep you from killing target you tring to jump with, you want it to hit and it recharges pretty fast that if you do a hold and attack or fences its already back up, 2 recharges will get it useable every other attack approximately. Use it more as a way to break fields sleep and apply immobilize without retaliation or for the knockdown soft control in fast groups.

Conductive I would slot 2 acc and 2-3 end mod. You want this to hit and you want it to drain this is your hard control for electic control is end drained targets between this, fences and field you drain real quick and that is before end mods and as a side effect you will get stamina recovery if slotted with 3 end mods and 8 targets which possibly require you to hit with aura to get buff. This will get toggle off alot unless you got protection in your secondary or domination going so you might want a recharge or 2 if it's to long for you.

Field you want acc and rch first 2 of each, end mod or sleep works but the sleep seems to wear off extremely fast when field go away and end drain isn't as good as fences or aura in field as it is a 50% chance for only around 5 end drain and 2 end to people in field per target and end mod will effect both of those giving you a group end regenerating power and with lots of targets you get good end back from this if you are in the field which you should with conductive aura.

Fences you want 2 acc, 2-3 end mod, maybe a end reduction. This is used to keep them from running out of field and conductive while also sapping as much as aura does per tick. This is also not a dot so using jolting chain then this on sleep field mobs will put them on the ground and drain them possibly being put back to sleep before they can attack and not reawakening them.

Your sleeps and knockdowns soft controls are there for your electric controls hard control to kick in which is the end drain imo.


 

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Check out the powers guide in my sig for my extended opinion on Electric Control.

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Well there are really only two ways to break sleep: A change in HP (through healing or damage), and an effect that provides Sleep Protection
Repel and Knockback both break sleep as well.


 

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You are so completely right! I forgot about knockback and repel affecting Sleep powers. I only remembered the ones that affect my character most often.


 

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Originally Posted by Liliaceae View Post
Check out the powers guide in my sig for my extended opinion on Electric Control.



Repel and Knockback both break sleep as well.
Anything that puts up green numbers over the target's head will break a sleep, so will any power that changes a mob's position (KB, KD, KU etc)


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Originally Posted by Kinrad View Post
I have a little level 8 Dominator that now has both of these powers, and am curious as to other players experiences with these powers.

So far I think Conductive Aura is doing a pretty decent job of sapping my opponents and keeping my own blue bar from bottoming out. Can anyone recommend slotting for this? Right now I'm thinking 2 End Mods for quicker sapping?

I'm not sure what I am supposed to be doing with Jolting Chain? It knock opponents down, which is a nice soft control, but they get up pretty quick and seem pretty miffed at me. The damage is too low to be treated as an attack (which is OK with me). I'm thinking the best use of this power is an IO mule for knockback protection and recharge via the Kinetic Crash set. Is there a good strategic use for this power? I like using it (because flopping fish are funny!), but I feel like I could probably be using it better?

Any insight from more experienced users is appreciated, thanks.
I actually already burned a vet respec on my elec dom to drop jolting chain. For some reason i got it in my head it was kinda like an electric version of earthquake, something that provided mitagation. There is absolutely no reason IMO to waste a choice on a power that does one click of 4 points of damage and knocks down the enemies. The first real control power i truely liked in the set was the sleep AOE. I did take the aura which i agree seems to do a good job at end drain, i have 1 acc and 2 end mod DOs in it at this point, i might add one more acc to it when i can, but im not stressing over it until after i get SOs.


 

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Originally Posted by Kinrad View Post
I'm not sure what I am supposed to be doing with Jolting Chain?
If you have access to the preorder IOs I recommend slotting all but the KD proc in Jolting; put the KD proc in Chained Fences. I have been pleased with the results so far.


 

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I love Jolting Chain. It's a quick recharge/quick animating/high range/pseudo-aoe knockdown. I'm running an elec/energy and with JC, Power Push, and other blasts I can keep hard targets juggled, completely nullifying any threat they pose to the team.


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I have a quick additional question. Am I correct in saying that the single target immobilize grants knock back protection, but that the AoE immobilize does not?

If that is true, then I need to drop the ST and pick up AoE, because.... holy synergy batman!


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Originally Posted by Kinrad View Post
Am I correct in saying that the single target immobilize grants knock back protection, but that the AoE immobilize does not?
This is true. The AoE Immob does not have -KB in it.


 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post

And then I got conductive aura and the lightbulb went off.
I see what you did there.