Can't really tell if this is a serious thread or not. But anyways...
Why fix what isn't broken?
- Im Not Talking Fast, You're Just Listening Slow.
- To Each His Own
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Because SMASH!|
Originally Posted by Rowdy
Why fix what isn't broken?
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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No no no!|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Because SMASH!
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BROOTSMARSH!!!
Better
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Do you two realize how similar your avatars are?
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
And with all the green in yours, you could easily be one of them.
Since we're making things realistic Assassin Strike now instantly kills anything with humanoid proportions.
Okay, I'll play.... Containment has a percentage chance to instantly defeat an enemy.
75% for minions
50% for lieutenenants
25% for bosses
15% chance to ignore mez protection of AVs and GMs
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
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How is that, at all, realistic?
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Originally Posted by McBoo
Okay, I'll play.... Containment has a percentage chance to instantly defeat an enemy.
75% for minions 50% for lieutenenants 25% for bosses 15% chance to ignore mez protection of AVs and GMs > |
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no no no|
Originally Posted by McBoo
Okay, I'll play.... Containment has a percentage chance to instantly defeat an enemy.
75% for minions 50% for lieutenenants 25% for bosses 15% chance to ignore mez protection of AVs and GMs > |
Containment has a percent chance for making the duration of the effect permanent
75%Underlings
50%Minions
25% Lieutenants
15% Bosses
5% AV's
1% GMs
because they've been contained.
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I suppose it depends on your definition of realistic. I find it highly unrealistic that an enemy that has been completely incapacitated (i.e. sealed in stone, frozen in a block of ice, choking violently on hot ash, wrapped in tough vines, etc. ) requires any further attention. |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
How is that, at all, realistic?
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So in the interest of realism you add a percentage chance for Containment to take an enemy out of the fight instantly. For the sake of balance only apply the effect to single target holds.
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
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Because the foe is still there to deal with. If the mission calls for you to 'destroy' the target, wrapping it in vines or floating it in gravity doesn't accomplish this.|
Originally Posted by McBoo
I suppose it depends on your definition of realistic. I find it highly unrealistic that an enemy that has been completely incapacitated (i.e. sealed in stone, frozen in a block of ice, choking violently on hot ash, wrapped in tough vines, etc. ) requires any further attention.
So in the interest of realism you add a percentage chance for Containment to take an enemy out of the fight instantly. For the sake of balance only apply the effect to single target holds. > |
DMystic's containment sounds more realistic. Either that, or a percentage chance the enemy simply 'gives up' and no longer reacts but is still targetable (like those Family members wearing cement shoes and tied up...they are effectively contained).
Containment isn't awesome enough to outright defeat enemies >_>
and now for Scourge
when Scourge triggers the enemy will continue to take damage from the attack until they are reduced to 0 hp.
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I actually thought it was a self quote. |
Originally Posted by Vanden
Do you two realize how similar your avatars are?
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Originally Posted by Diggis
I actually thought it was a self quote.
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Now stop derailing my thread!
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
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I'm not sure that any mission objective includes instructions to "destroy" an enemy, if so they are few in number. Most mission goals require that foes be defeated and a single target hold should be more than enough to accomplish that goal. Spidey can web up a group of thugs and easily defeat them without ever throwing a punch. Similarly, an earth controller should be able to lock down two or three Hellions with Fossilize and, once they are trapped, place a teleport beacon on them for incarceration.|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
Because the foe is still there to deal with. If the mission calls for you to 'destroy' the target, wrapping it in vines or floating it in gravity doesn't accomplish this.
DMystic's containment sounds more realistic. Either that, or a percentage chance the enemy simply 'gives up' and no longer reacts but is still targetable (like those Family members wearing cement shoes and tied up...they are effectively contained). Containment isn't awesome enough to outright defeat enemies >_> |
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
And if the target is a demon, ghost or a robot (can't really 'arrest' that) or the objective is literally to destroy an object, holding it in place with some vines or an antigravity field or spraying it with ash isn't really getting the job done, now is it?
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Sure it will. Demons, ghosts and robots are currently just as susceptible to holds as any other target. |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
And if the target is a demon, ghost or a robot (can't really 'arrest' that) or the objective is literally to destroy an object, holding it in place with some vines or an antigravity field or spraying it with ash isn't really getting the job done, now is it?
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
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Fair enough, and as they are permanently contained they no longer represent a threat so therefore they are instantly defeated. |
Originally Posted by DMystic
no no no
Containment has a percent chance for making the duration of the effect permanent 75%Underlings 50%Minions 25% Lieutenants 15% Bosses 5% AV's 1% GMs because they've been contained. |
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
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But you're not going to 'arrest' them (stick a teleport beacon on them and send them to the zig). What court would prosecute a ghost anyway? |
Originally Posted by McBoo
Sure it will. Demons, ghosts and robots are currently just as susceptible to holds as any other target.
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Lol, next you're gonna tell me we can take a flea to court and file for assault if it bites us and sucks our blood. How many years would it get? Possibly a life sentence ^_^
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Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the ghosts and demons get ported off to Azuria for cataloging and banishment. Perhaps they simply return to their plane of origin as the only form of escape from the hold but once they leave they cannot come back easily. |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
But you're not going to 'arrest' them (stick a teleport beacon on them and send them to the zig). What court would prosecute a ghost anyway?
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
Critical Hit should give an additional chance for the critter to be ported to the hospital in critical condition!
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
Let's make Fury realistic ...
As soon as an opponents is seen .. FULL FURY.
Because as a Brute, you expect every enemy in sight to be dead. It angers you that they aren't.
SMASH 'EM!
I was doing some playthroughs of City of Heroes. Now they will serve as memories of a better time ...
I know nothing infuriates me more than missing, so let's have Fury build faster when you miss! And just for giggles, make the bonus Fury from missing scale up the lower the target's health is.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.