best "proc toon"

Nny_the_mad · 08-08-2010 07:15 AM

i explain a bit.
i love the idea of having proc in every power.

i rolled a ice/thorn dominator with that in mind a while ago.
the idea was damage proc en coercive proc in AA+ damage proc in thorn trop and the chance for placate and chance for heal in the AoE sleep
the AA thing was awesome but ice still lacked hard control and thorn letal damage was really too weak (was before doms change )

then i tried a plant/rad controller for both carrion and choking cloud potential but i feel like there are better combinasion.

i do love patch or aura power (aka passive proc mule)

what would be for you the best toon to roll that would benefit a lot from proc ?

Medic_brietz · 08-08-2010 12:54 PM

Try a trick arrow/ arrow defender. go buckwild with them there proc's. put them in everything and get ready for mad chaos. just be prepared to deal with aggro in flash arrow if it goes off. I think there is a guide just for this kinda build.

Oedipus_Tex · 08-08-2010 01:01 PM

I always think of Earth/Storm, Earth/TA, Plant/Storm or Plant/TA Controllers.

Dying_Breath · 08-08-2010 03:14 PM

I had an idea like that once - turned into a very fun, if somewhat uneven character.

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Level 50 Natural Defender
Primary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Nictus-Acc/Heal(11), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(11), H'zdH-Heal/Rchg(15), Nictus-%Dam(42), Nictus-Heal(48)
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Level 2: Darkest Night -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(7), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(7), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(17)
Level 4: Irradiate -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Achilles-ResDeb%(5), Erad-%Dam(5), LdyGrey-%Dam(9), ShldBrk-%Dam(31), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(31)
Level 6: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), ImpSwft-Dam%(42)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 12: Fearsome Stare -- Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-ToHitDeb(13), Cloud-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), N'mare-Acc/Fear/Rchg(25), N'mare-Acc/Fear(31)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel(46)
Level 16: Electron Haze -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), ShldBrk-%Dam(19), LdyGrey-%Dam(36), ExStrk-Dam%(36), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(40)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21), P'Shift-End%(43)
Level 22: Shadow Fall -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(23), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), S'dpty-Def(39), ResDam-I(50), ResDam-I(50)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(34)
Level 28: Cosmic Burst -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Ruin-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Ruin-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 30: Vengeance -- ToHit-I(A), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 32: Dark Servant -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(33), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(33), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(33), TotHntr-Dam%(46), Cloud-%Dam(48)
Level 35: Neutron Bomb -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dam%(36), LdyGrey-%Dam(37), ShldBrk-%Dam(37), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Achilles-ResDeb%(40)
Level 38: Howling Twilight -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(39), ImpSwft-Dam%(43)
Level 41: Oppressive Gloom -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(42), Acc-I(43)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpArm-ResDam(45)
Level 47: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Soul Transfer -- EndMod-I(A)
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Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
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Nethergoat · 08-08-2010 03:24 PM

I wonder how long a character named

THE PROC-TOLOGIST

would survive before getting generic'ed.

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prev1 · 08-08-2010 11:22 PM

I'll second rad blast, dark miasma. Real players do it on corrupters though :P.

BlackSly · 08-09-2010 09:01 AM

Earth/Storm Controller.

Because almost every proc will be going into AoE powers.

QS: 1
EQ: 2
FR: 3-4
Tornado: skip as the base damage is too good to spend a slot on procs
LS: 1-2 (I prefer just 1, the Hold proc, as again the damage is very good)
Stone Cages: 2-3

BurningChick · 08-09-2010 10:30 AM

Traps is really good for proc abuse, also.

Once upon a time, MM 'trops used to take PBAoE and targetted AoE sets, leading me to have 4 damage procs in caltrops. Considering it isn't all that tough to have 2 patches out at once ...

The most glorious abuse of procs, however, was Gas Trap. That sucker, back in I9 / I10 was monumentally over-powered -- think nuke-level damage on big spawns. IIRC, each mob hit would create a gas cloud. AoE procs could go off with each cloud. The power cycles /very/ fast. I remember showing up at zombie and Rikti raids and being told to leave -- 'cause my MM trapper was dropping mobs faster than entire teams could.

Candlestick · 08-09-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BurningChick

Traps is really good for proc abuse, also.

Once upon a time, MM 'trops used to take PBAoE and targetted AoE sets, leading me to have 4 damage procs in caltrops. Considering it isn't all that tough to have 2 patches out at once ...

The most glorious abuse of procs, however, was Gas Trap. That sucker, back in I9 / I10 was monumentally over-powered -- think nuke-level damage on big spawns. IIRC, each mob hit would create a gas cloud. AoE procs could go off with each cloud. The power cycles /very/ fast. I remember showing up at zombie and Rikti raids and being told to leave -- 'cause my MM trapper was dropping mobs faster than entire teams could.

I miss my Poison Trap.

Miladys_Knight · 08-09-2010 03:59 PM

The power set that can accept the largest number of damage procs is DP. In my book that is its one and only claim to fame.

A Storm/DP defender would be your best bet for maximum damage procage.

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Nny_the_mad · 08-10-2010 01:10 AM

i'm not necessarily (as my 2 exemples show it) aiming at damage proc only.

chance to stun, to hold, to placate... those "trick" proc appeal me a lot too.

of course as the chance to heal proc is sadly a so unfunny joke, that i may ignore it.

Miladys_Knight · 08-10-2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nny_the_mad

i'm not necessarily (as my 2 exemples show it) aiming at damage proc only.

chance to stun, to hold, to placate... those "trick" proc appeal me a lot too.

of course as the chance to heal proc is sadly a so unfunny joke, that i may ignore it.

Chance to heal "can" be useful to a blaster. Entropic Chaos chance to heal slotted in the tier 1 and 2 primary, and the tier 1 secondary will allow a blaster to break sleeps since these can be fired while the blaster is mezzed.

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Tyrrano · 08-10-2010 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight

Chance to heal "can" be useful to a blaster. Entropic Chaos chance to heal slotted in the tier 1 and 2 primary, and the tier 1 secondary will allow a blaster to break sleeps since these can be fired while the blaster is mezzed.

Hmm, never thought of that! Learn something new, etc.

Kelenar · 08-10-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

I wonder how long a character named

THE PROC-TOLOGIST

would survive before getting generic'ed.

There was a Proctologist running around on Virtue for months, so hey.

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Carnifax_NA · 08-10-2010 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

I wonder how long a character named

THE PROC-TOLOGIST

would survive before getting generic'ed.

Genius!

Exodus_V · 08-10-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelenar

There was a Proctologist running around on Virtue for months, so hey.

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Jibikao · 08-11-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prev1

I'll second rad blast, dark miasma. Real players do it on corrupters though :P.

Really? Why is that? I thought using procs on a character with less damage is better since Blaster probably gets better damage with just damage enhancements? Defender and Troller with procs, I can understand.

What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

Jibikao · 08-11-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nny_the_mad

i'm not necessarily (as my 2 exemples show it) aiming at damage proc only.

chance to stun, to hold, to placate... those "trick" proc appeal me a lot too.

of course as the chance to heal proc is sadly a so unfunny joke, that i may ignore it.

I have fun putting procs in Merc/Storm MM.

What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

UnicyclePeon · 08-11-2010 12:11 PM

My Earth/Storm controller has about 9 damage procs or so in her powers (specifically in AOEs). It is pretty cool.

Lewis

EDIT: here is my Perma-Hasten Earth/Storm with 8 damage procs and 3 other (non-damage) procs:

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Jibikao · 08-11-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Candlestick

I miss my Poison Trap.

I know!!!!!!!

I still remember when they first introduced procs. HOLY !@#$#. Was Poison Trap godly.

What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.