Alpha Slot Removed from Going Rogue


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Positron just posted this announcement in the announcement discussion forums. I understand a repost seems a little unnecessary, but I don't know that I definitely would have seen it considering it isn't in the regular announcement section.

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Hey everyone,

I know it’s been common knowledge for a while that the initial phase of the Incarnate system would be available in City of Heroes: Going Rogue. As you know, I’ve been spearheading the “End-Game” system for City of Heroes, to give players a lot of what they’ve been asking for: more powers, greater customization, more epic battles, and most of all, more content to do with their Level 50’s.

That last point was something that we got great feedback on in the GR Closed Beta. Even though it was just a sneak peak, the Alpha Slot doesn’t benefit the player in a way that we had envisioned it would. Because of this feedback we have decided to act sooner rather than later.

Since Alpha Slot Incarnate Abilities do not exemplar down (and we're not changing that), we find that players end up with Power that has limited use. We recognize that the Alpha Slot experience is something that a lot of you are eagerly awaiting for and we want to make sure that it is awesome, and most of all fun, when we bring the system on-line.

We still want to do an “Alpha Slot Sneak Peek”, but we want it to happen once more of the system and content are closer to being ready for prime time.

We want to thank everyone who tested and gave their feedback on the Alpha Slot, the drop rates, the costs, and especially how they see the Abilities interacting with their builds, math-wise. Your testing has been invaluable and we have learned a great deal in a short time thanks to you. We now feel that the Alpha Slot and Incarnate Abilities will have a much higher impact when they are ready to be rolled out.

That’s not to say you can’t continue to discuss what you have seen in the beta. I encourage the dialogs that you guys have started to continue, and we will continue to read your thoughts and feedback.

We hope this helps you to understand why we’ve come to this decision and appreciate your patience while we continue making the Alpha Slot and the rest of the Incarnate System the best that it can be.


 

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I mentioned this elsewhere, but I don't think that this should be read as the Incarnate system now not requiring a copy of GR to work.


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Sooo... GR has nothing but 1-20 content we have to wait till I19?



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Sooo... GR has nothing but 1-20 content we have to wait till I19?



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GR also has side switching from 20-50


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Sooo... GR has nothing but 1-20 content we have to wait till I19?



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You don't know that. I don't know that. We don't know that.

Necessary action: We wait.


 

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D:

I missed out on trying the alpha slot *Cri*

Hope there's some Endgame going into GR. I'm pretty sure with the quality we got in CoV, there'll be mid game content going in.


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Originally Posted by Acanous_Quietus View Post
D:

I missed out on trying the alpha slot *Cri*

Hope there's some Endgame going into GR. I'm pretty sure with the quality we got in CoV, there'll be mid game content going in.
There won't - unless you're counting the Tip missions for side switching.


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You don't know that. I don't know that. We don't know that.

Necessary action: We wait.
Well, that's pretty accurate - GR will have the level 1-20 content, plus the level 20-50 side switching Tip missions


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Well, that's pretty accurate - GR will have the level 1-20 content, plus the level 20-50 side switching Tip missions
and four powersets.


 

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Well, that's pretty accurate - GR will have the level 1-20 content, plus the level 20-50 side switching Tip missions
You're a little too knowing, y'know that? >_>


 

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Well, that's pretty accurate - GR will have the level 1-20 content, plus the level 20-50 side switching Tip missions
I was referring to the content that we will have to pay for. Tip missions are free with I18 IDK about the side switching. Even so more things for L50s to do was a big thing for me with GR with that being cut... well it just feels like I was cheated.


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I was referring to the content that we will have to pay for. Tip missions are free with I18 IDK about the side switching. Even so more things for L50s to do was a big thing for me with GR with that being cut... well it just feels like I was cheated.
You need to own GR to be able to switch sides.

Also, there was only going to be the Alpha slot in GR - the other 9 slots were always planned for I19 - GR was only going to include the first slot as a preview of the system.


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I was referring to the content that we will have to pay for. Tip missions are free with I18 IDK about the side switching. Even so more things for L50s to do was a big thing for me with GR with that being cut... well it just feels like I was cheated.
You're still getting the system that you've paid for. It's just gonna be delayed a little.


 

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I mentioned this elsewhere, but I don't think that this should be read as the Incarnate system now not requiring a copy of GR to work.
Definitely, but depending on how GR does or doesn't do, there is now x number of extra months to persuade the devs to open this system to non-GR owners. If that is something that is desired of course.


 

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I was referring to the content that we will have to pay for. Tip missions are free with I18 IDK about the side switching. Even so more things for L50s to do was a big thing for me with GR with that being cut... well it just feels like I was cheated.
The Incarnate system is issue 19. You weren't "cheated" of anything but a sneak peek, and they obviously want that first look to be great. Since it wasn't up to expectations... you wait and get something better.

Doesn't sound "cheated" to me.


 

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Positron didn't feel that whatever the Alpha Slot does was good enough for the players. They're not taking away your shiny new toy to be mean; they're taking it away to make it better. And really, since only the first of ten "Incarnate Levels" was initially stated as being included with Going Rogue, it's not like we're losing that much. I mean, would you rather them just completely do away with any sort of preview for the Incarnate system and just wait until Issue 19 to unveil everything? I personally wouldn't. And if there's still a chance of getting a little taste of the system early, albeit later than originally advertised, I have no problem with this.


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Eh.

So Going Rogue:

  • 4 powersets (2 available now, for pre-purchase customers)
  • Ability to creat any of the 'original' villain/hero archetypes as a neutral
  • 1-20 praetorian content
  • morality 'tip' missions for Isles/Paragon characters 20+ (Note: all customers can play tip missions, but only GR owners can change factions)
  • Endgame (incarnate/alpha{?}) content for 50's. (delayed?)
If the last was simply a system for extra advancement on level 50's, without new missions, I'm quite fine witha delay. I've done all of the 45-50 arcs, I've done all the 45-50 SF's. The AE arcs are in ill repair, the ability to find quality arcs is hit and mostly miss, and the reward system seems still in flux. If I just got cool powers to re-do all of those, it would be only so-so in utility.

As is, I'll play the 1-20 new content, then exemplar back to run cross-faction content for the fun of it. If the post 50 advancement waits for a time where there's more post-50 content, color me happy.


 

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Knowing is half the battle.
And the rest is:




Bit bummed by the loss for now and I only hope the rest can make up for it. Still two new powersets (for me), two extra character slots, Praetorians from 1-20 and alignment shifting. Still worth it.


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Okay I give... what the hells an Alpha slot????


 

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Okay I give... what the hells an Alpha slot????
The thing that comes before the Beta slot.

The people that can give you a precise answer aren't allowed to. Open information is that it is the first level of the incarnate system.


 

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Okay I give... what the hells an Alpha slot????
There are some posts and teases around from devs regarding the incarnate system in the public some wheres out here on the internets. Best to look around for them... I recall that the "big marketing survey" that basically laid out most everything that has already come to pass from power customization to Architect Entertainment to Going Rogue mentioned something about a system to improve your 50's via unlocking some sort of special series of "10 global enhancement slots." Based on the content of Positron's post, I would presume that the Alpha Slot is the first of those. Or some variation of that system that survey teased at...


 

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So I wonder if the people in Beta are taking this news in stride, staying calm, discussing how it's a great system that just needs a little work and is well worth the wait for I19

or are they in full mouth foaming total flip out mode?