Alpha Slot Removed from Going Rogue

It's the first "level" of the new Incarnate engame system - it was going to be launched with GR, with a further 9 "levels" to follow in I19 - but it's now been decided that the Alpha slot won't be launched with GR because they want more time to work on it without delaying the GR launch date.

Unless you get a red-name to explain, which you probably won't, then all of the people who are able to tell you won't because they aren't allowed. As the man said - Beta feedback suggested that the "sneak peak" wasn't worth it on its own and that it was liable to create more problems than the benefit it would bring. I'm not sure I agree with that, but Positron clearly does.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

That's something we'll have to deal with in the coming months. As Closed Beta expands, more and more common forum folk get invited to it and this notion that everybody knows becomes more prevalent as they get used to the Beta forums. You're bound to see slip-ups in the rest of the forums and in-game.

For instance, a couple of days, a friend of mine goes: "I can't wait for Going Rogue! My character can so use this and that Incarnate thing." and I'm like: "Dude... Did they actually announce that?" and he's all like "Oops! "

Anyway, keep an ear to the ground. That's pretty big news, even to me, and there's bound to be more chatter on the way.

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Say, here's an interesting question: Will the Going Rogue Beta NDA hold even after the actual Going Rogue beta is over? I mean, those who have played around with the Alpha Incarnate slot will have that knowledge all throughout I18, are they supposed to keep it secret the whole time? Because if it's not in the game and won't be for, what? Another five months (purely eyeballing)? Does it make a difference?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

NDAs are usually waved when it goes public and that means the whole of the beta process is open for discussion.

Thing is, the Alpha Incarnate Slot will not go public when Closed Beta ends, because it won't be in closed beta at the time. Do we count it as being public because it WAS part of Beta even though it will probably be part of the next Beta pretty much unchanged? That's kind of what I wonder.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Yes, it'd count as being public since the NDA would no longer apply. You could talk about how it had been working in beta. Not sure how you can say it'll be pretty much unchanged though, surely if that was the case there'd be no need to hold it back in the first place.

Guess we'll have to put the discussion off until Open Beta, then. Good to know we'll be able to discuss it at SOME point before next year

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

There is no NDA.

They only ever ask you to be confidential. Eg. from a previous beta test:


First, that is not a Non Disclosure Agreement. Secondly, you never agree to it; there's no place to sign or even check an 'I Acknowledge' box.

It is a simple personal request that you not talk about what you see, and they cannot enforce it beyond having you deemed ineligible for future testing invites.

I've signed a number of real NDAs and they usually multiple page documents that require a faxed signature at the very least.

NDAs are commonly used to protect trade secrets from the competition. At this stage in the beta, the devs aren't really that concerned about that; the information is already 'in the wild' and outside of their studio.

At this point the request for confidentiality is more of a PR concern. They don't want the community getting whipped into a frenzy over something that's going to be fixed or changed before it goes live.


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