Knockback Possible for EBs/AVs?
I believe (most) any EB/AV without the Pointy Triangles of Doom can be knocked back/down.
Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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It can be done, but while their protection (PToD) is up it takes a massive amount of KB.
Interesting tip, in the ITF when you're killing Nictus Rommy in the last mission a KB patch like Ice Slick, Bonfire etc. will send him flopping when he rezes... sometimes for a considerable time until he manages to activate his KB protection. I can recall one instance where he was flopping until we got him down to about 1/3 HP.
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That's what I was wondering: how much is it? I thought maybe the PToD were the same for all of them in this regard, so I was wondering what the bar was that I needed to get over (or if it's completely unfeasible).
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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Purple_Triangles_of_Doom
I've seen EBs/AVs knocked down (GMs, too...lots, actually), but it was only on teams where just about everyone had a bunch of KB. It's a rarity, though.
It's usually one of those "Whoa! We actually KBed him???" moments.
Dec out.
I've knocked down the paladin, adamastor, and a DE monster with just my PA, Phantasm and a ragnarock proc in fireball.
The more people I meet, the more I'm beginning to root for the zombies.
It's 50 points. So little to no chance of overcoming it.
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Oh well, out of luck for my Blaster, then. I suppose AVs/EBs need to be tough, but I was hoping I could maybe build my Blaster up to it. I'm just having far too much fun with knockback right now. I was knocking Outcasts back about half a block the other night while waiting for a Posi TF to start up, and it was far too fun.
Thanks for the help, everyone.
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At 50, with 3 generic lvl 50 IOs, Force Bolt should do ~51.5 Knockback.
Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
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It's 50 points. So little to no chance of overcoming it.
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Assuming they have no other Knockback protection (or resistance), then it should work fairly well, although you won't be able to have much of an attack chain with constantly spamming Force Bolt.
Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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I think they have 100 kb protection.
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PToD adds 50 to whatever inherent or toggle KB protection each EB/AV has. Other than that, whatever they have naturally is all they've got. Each EB/AV is different.
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Baphomet
Countess Crey
Vanessa Devore
Black Scorpion
BaB's
Numina
Scirocco
Black Swan
Agent Crimson
Requiem
This is what they show:
Triangles Up
Triangles Down
Second or so while the Triangles activate
I've always enjoyed Energy/Energy Blasters (I've started one more than once, then deleted them for one reason or another... mostly from matters of theme or slot room on my server), and I am now leveling one up to level 50. Finally found a concept for the character that makes it fly for me, heh.
Anyway, I'm focusing on using knockback for mitigation with this guy as much as possible. I know some mobs resist it, but it seems like most of my tools should knockback normal foes (as long as it hits, etc.). However, I am curious to find out if you can knockback Elite Bosses or AVs. I like being able to solo with my characters, and it would be nice to be able to do this. Is there a certain magnitude needed where you can knock them back, or are they basically immune to it, like holds, etc.?
I can do without it, as I have soloed most of the EBs in game with other blasters that did not attempt to hold or knock back these foes, but it would still be kind of fun. I also seem to recall someone posting that they kept knocking back Snaptooth while they were fighting him, so it seems like it should be possible.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory