Blizzard to remove the veil of anonymity
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-07-06 10:48 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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I could think of a way to leverage it into more money...|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
The responsibility to enforce community rules lies with Blizzard, not their paying customers.
I'm wondering how they think they can leverage this to make money. Because their stated reasons are ridiculous. |
Offer a return to aliases if you pay a slightly higher subscription fee. Say, $19.99 per month for a WoW sub + anon forum access. The "regular" subs, who may or may not use the forums, can continue at the traditional $14.99 per month. Regular subs use Real ID to post.
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Obviously this is also an issue, especially with a community that tends to be connected to their character a little bit more, a game that has more loot that can be "stolen" or players who feel "slighted," and for players who tend to play a bit north of casual.|
Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
What about safety? I've been internet stalked before. I know other women who have been. There was a post on the Borderhouse by a woman talking about how a guild member actually tracked her down to her dorm to confront her because his sexist comments to her got him banned from raids.
And yes, as I linked, there are employers who do not want to hire WoW players. |
Honestly, I didn't even consider the problem of gender this would present. Not just for the females who don't want to be harassed by the horny, lonely teenage guys they team with, but what about the male players who play as female characters? All we need is one loose canon homophobe to attack someone for "pretending to be a girl" and now we have a whole new kind of hate crime on our hands.
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not really, maybe some action needed taken, i mentioned the whole "get a sufficient number of mods and enforce the existing tos" idea earlier, but this idea is simply one made in ignorance of the considerations needed for doing business online, and really is baffling given blizzard's usual name for good customer interactions. they drew their pistol to shoot the problem, and instead team killed half their allies, if i may make a game related metaphor.
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Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
I don't like this, but I can't help but also feel this is the World of Warcraft community bringing this on themselves.
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Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
You must be going to different WoW official forums than what I was going to when I played.
They're called "WoWtards" for a reason, Kali. |
(i'm so droll)
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Oh I know. And I do. Though as far as I can tell, Facebook only checks for reasonable sounding last names.
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Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
...You can use a pseudonym on Facebook. It's pretty much unenforceable. But yeah, this is one reason I'm not on Facebook myself.
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Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
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I know.|
Originally Posted by Agonus
Oh I know. And I do. Though as far as I can tell, Facebook only checks for reasonable sounding last names.
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Apparently my last name sound fake to them.
Studmeister is a perfectly valid last name!
In the Arena of Logic, I fight unarmed.
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totally, your family came from a line of German home builders |
Originally Posted by Gulver
I know.
Apparently my last name sound fake to them. Studmeister is a perfectly valid last name! |
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I just imagined them over there saying:|
Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
You must be going to different WoW official forums than what I was going to when I played.
They're called "WoWtards" for a reason, Kali. |
"They're called "CoXers" for a reason, Felicia D."
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I always use something like CHV and I never ever ever use "CoX" to refer to this game. |
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I just imagined them over there saying:
"They're called "CoXers" for a reason, Felicia D." |
Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
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Why not? X is a variable, and you aren't sure what one likes most. It's almost gender neutral and the most useful. I love CoX.
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Originally Posted by Agonus
I always use something like CHV and I never ever ever use "CoX" to refer to this game.
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I dunno, sounds like a boast, personally |
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I just imagined them over there saying:
"They're called "CoXers" for a reason, Felicia D." |
I'm a cox'er, bend over.
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*snicker*
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Why not? X is a variable, and you aren't sure what one likes most. It's almost gender neutral and the most useful. I love CoX.
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Because we're reasonable, intelligent, polite, and well-spoken, while still fairly wacky and fun?|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I just imagined them over there saying:
"They're called "CoXers" for a reason, Felicia D." |
Seriously, dude, them making fun of us would be like how Joe got treated in Idiocracy.
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Hell, Marcian can't get ENOUGH CoX. Why, just the other day, Marcian was going on about he/she/it just LOVES the CoX! Heck, Marcian just can't resist checking out CoX and logging on and off alllll night long!
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Why not? X is a variable, and you aren't sure what one likes most. It's almost gender neutral and the most useful. I love CoX.
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There's plenty of useful discussion on the forum, and the majority of posters are not trolls. The trolls are just the loudest and insufficiently moderated.
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Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
You must be going to different WoW official forums than what I was going to when I played.
They're called "WoWtards" for a reason, Kali. |
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I actually had a very similar conversation over there last year.
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I just imagined them over there saying:
"They're called "CoXers" for a reason, Felicia D." |
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When you QQ about the abyss...
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Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
I actually had a very similar conversation over there last year.
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Not that it matters (probably not even to Blizzard) but this is the final straw for me. I've had a WoW account for a while. As of this afternoon, it is canceled. First, RealID was "totally optional" and people shot down complaints about how invasive and stupid it was by pointing out that you could just not use it. Now, it has extended into the forums, and it is *not* optional if you wish to post. I'm not waiting around for them to extend it to the Armory (which you already have no way to opt out of) or whatever idiotic direction they go next.
Do I expect a "massive customer backlash" and millions of people to cancel their accounts? No. Gamers have, as a group, proven that they are very loud but essentially spineless. Look at all the screaming over Modern Warfare or Left 4 Dead 2, both of which easily wandered into the top ten for launch sales figures, even with all the "boycotts."
So, I'll exercise the one vote that I have on this issue. I'll be taking my gaming dollars elsewhere. On the plus side, Blizzard just saved me about $150 a year, so it's not all bad. *Edit* Actually, they've saved me more than that, as I will no longer be considering Starcraft 2 or Diablo 3 for purchase either.
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You're probably right. Whether or not Blizzard does this though, they're never getting my dollar again.|
Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
not really, maybe some action needed taken, i mentioned the whole "get a sufficient number of mods and enforce the existing tos" idea earlier, but this idea is simply one made in ignorance of the considerations needed for doing business online, and really is baffling given blizzard's usual name for good customer interactions. they drew their pistol to shoot the problem, and instead team killed half their allies, if i may make a game related metaphor.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
enforcement of the existing rules by a large and trained number of moderators could have thinned the moron herd fast, that is blizz's job really, they bring in more money than some countries, get a sufficient sized moderation staff, or get them pursuing disruptive elements more aggressively, they have the tools already to deal with the tools.
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Hahaha. |
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
When you QQ about the abyss...
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Fixed.
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Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
 There's plenty of useful discussion on the forum, and the majority of posters are not trolls. The trolls are just the loudest and insufficiently moderated. |
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I can't find the edit.|
Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
Fixed.
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Also, I was part of the WoW community as well, and I wasn't trolling and flaming. And I was participating in constructive discussion, as were many in the role forums (esp tanking and healing).
Your sweeping generalization's pretty falsifiable.
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Image is broke, though.|
Originally Posted by RaiderRich2001
Fixed.
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EDIT: Okay, now it's fixed. Good catch.
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You talking about "sweeping generalizations" is hypocritical to begin with, given that you yourself just said you made sweeping generalizations about CoH players on their forums. |
Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
Also, I was part of the WoW community as well, and I wasn't trolling and flaming. And I was participating in constructive discussion, as were many in the role forums (esp tanking and healing).
Your sweeping generalization's pretty falsifiable. |
But you're just astroturfing for the game, so whatever.
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