Blizzard to remove the veil of anonymity
It depends on your definition of involvement. I get the feeling this is all coming down for a /very/ select few people at the top. Others have discussed it for sure with them, but I don't think they had any real decision making sway, much like the 2000+ pages of people saying no also holds no sway to that same select few people.
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It depends on your definition of involvement. I get the feeling this is all coming down for a /very/ select few people at the top. .
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Meanwhile, reports are leaking out from within Blizzard that the rank and file are no less unhappy than the players:
“Got in touch with my ex-flatmate, whose sister works as a GM for Blizzard, to see what the internal buzz on this was. Apparently, at the moment the employees are largely as pissed as the players, and she stated that despite attempts to keep it hushed, it has become known that the big creative players within Blizzard are pretty much as unhappy about this as we are. Everybody has been told they are not free to comment on this situation outside of specially prepared statements. It’s still going ahead, however (and here’s where in-house rumours and hearsay really start coming into play): from what they’ve picked up, the Blizzard leads have been told in no uncertain terms that the non-gameplay-related direction of the game is working to a different blueprint now. GC {the developer Ghost Crawler} and company are free to play with shiny new talent trees all they like, for example, but for the first time the decisions regarding Battle.net implementation, Real ID, and plans for the general acquisition of new players for the business are no longer in Blizzard’s own hands, and that’s not going down too well.” |
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Except if you pay by credit card, the name registered to your Battle.net account is the one on the card. So how exactly are you supposed to give Blizzard a fake name?
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Game Time Card?
Does WoW have a PayPal option?
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Except if you pay by credit card, the name registered to your Battle.net account is the one on the card. So how exactly are you supposed to give Blizzard a fake name?
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Keep in mind though that they're monitoring RealID usage and will probably shut down accounts with fake names. And probably not give you your money back if you spent any.
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Meanwhile, reports are leaking out from within Blizzard that the rank and file are no less unhappy than the players:
This was posted earlier today in the voluminous Real ID thread - now over 2,100 pages - and the CMs on the forum have let it alone. Make of that what you will. |
Blizzard is dead. It's all Activision now.
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Meanwhile, reports are leaking out from within Blizzard that the rank and file are no less unhappy than the players:
This was posted earlier today in the voluminous Real ID thread - now over 2,100 pages - and the CMs on the forum have let it alone. Make of that what you will. |
Ooh. Could it be that the REAL WoW killer is not another game?
This kind of thing could have a HORRENDOUS impact on subscription rates for them.
And it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!
And thus goes World of Warcraft. Not with a sequel, but with some nerdrage.
And thus goes World of Warcraft. Not with a sequel, but with some nerdrage.
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Just picture if, say, Amazon did the same thing.
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It'd be kind of sad if this is what starts WoW's eventual demise. It just seems so... stupid. Then again, only Blizzard can kill WoW. Or in this case, only Activision can kill Blizzard and WoW by proxy.
There's part of me that wants to know how this idea could possibly have been approved. I mean, I could totally see a RealID-ish setup for a new game, but changing an ongoing and insanely successful game like this? What are they thinking?!
On the other hand, I really DON'T want to know what they're thinking. I fear I'd have to bleach my brain if I knew.
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It'd be kind of sad if this is what starts WoW's eventual demise. It just seems so... stupid. Then again, only Blizzard can kill WoW. Or in this case, only Activision can kill Blizzard and WoW by proxy.
There's part of me that wants to know how this idea could possibly have been approved. I mean, I could totally see a RealID-ish setup for a new game, but changing an ongoing and insanely successful game like this? What are they thinking?! On the other hand, I really DON'T want to know what they're thinking. I fear I'd have to bleach my brain if I knew. |
As an example, notice that the "classic" boards are unaffected by this - only the newer and presumably hotter games get the RealID treatment.
Let's never forget that a gaming company is a business first and foremost and a publicly traded one is mandated by law to attempt to get the most profit for their shareholders.
Obviously there are differing approaches that companies can take, for example by building goodwill and customer satisfaction in all phases or another simply being to put out great games and ignore the rest.
The fact that I play this game indicates where I choose to spend my money.
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Oh, I know. This is anything that's happened here magnified by thousands, and invasion of privacy is a big issue for a lot of people (not just gamers). I used my analogies because there is NOTHING REMOTELY COMPARABLE and used the next best thing. In other words, lighten up, Francis.
Here's a fun link. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=128252 It's a brief history of Activision/Blizzard and should show how we got to this point. (And how a historically great gaming company may be on the road to ruin.) |
I'm not only talking about this here, and some places are a lot less reasonable so I will freely admit I'm kind of on a hair trigger about this. Sorry for jumping on you.
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It's purely a money decision. They're banking on the revenue gained from their Facebook tie-in will be more than the revenue lost by people quitting/not buying the Blizzard games.
As an example, notice that the "classic" boards are unaffected by this - only the newer and presumably hotter games get the RealID treatment. Let's never forget that a gaming company is a business first and foremost and a publicly traded one is mandated by law to attempt to get the most profit for their shareholders. Obviously there are differing approaches that companies can take, for example by building goodwill and customer satisfaction in all phases or another simply being to put out great games and ignore the rest. The fact that I play this game indicates where I choose to spend my money. |
Now they're going to copy Facebook? That's stupid. People don't go on WoW to network, they have Facebook for that. They go on WoW to team up and kick some... what DO they kill in WoW, anyway? The all-in-one approach will fail. It has always failed. Simply because when you get a successful all-in-one product, some company is going to snipe you with a smaller, more focused product. Always. Look at Nintendo and the Wii for a perfect example of this.
Activision is going to strangle Blizzard to death. It's a pity, because I liked Blizzard. But Blizzard is no longer allowed to do what they do best. Slowly and steadily develop the next genre kings. If Blizzard is forced to rush, they'll make bugs, just like any other developer. If Blizzard releases a buggy game, their reputation is shot, because Blizzard games don't have bugs. MMOs excluded, of course.
I feel a little sad. I had a feeling this would happen, but I'm sad about Blizzard. It's clear to me that they're heading down the path Infinity Ward took now. I'll miss them.
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Let's never forget that a gaming company is a business first and foremost and a publicly traded one is mandated by law to attempt to get the most profit for their shareholders.
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Dodge v. Ford, the case generally stated as proof that companies must maximise profit, is rarely, if ever, cited as legal precedent in course hearings, and wasn't even made in the district court most involved in corporate law (Dodge v. Ford was decided in Michigan; most corporate law is litigated in Delaware.)
While it's true that a distressing number of companies do maximise profit as if they were legally obligated to do so, the law does not, in fact, obligate them so.
Now they're going to copy Facebook? That's stupid. People don't go on WoW to network, they have Facebook for that. .
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People don't go to Facebook specifically to network, they go to Facebook to maintain existing social networks and re-establish old ones.
I don't know if any of my old high school or college friends play World of Warcraft, so I'm not going to use it for the same purpose as I would Facebook.
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Well technically if you don't post on the WoW boards then that doesn't happen. So you've the power and control to prevent it.
Something I think the WoW suits are thinking of, they don't WANT people using their boards. Official forums are costly to run and that place is a dank hellhole. I think all of this is mainly an excuse to let it slide into obscurity and become obsolete. |
"Dank hellhole" is far from accurate. Yes, trolls are a problem. No, trolls are not every poster on the forum. A lot of people are inaccurately labeled as trolls because of the characters they post with.
In a lot of ways, you can get out of the forum what you put into it.
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And thus goes World of Warcraft. Not with a sequel, but with some nerdrage.
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So this is how privacy dies... with thunderous nerd rage.
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If the Activision-based rumors are true, this is comparable to shoving a camera up the oviduct of the goose that lays the golden eggs just to sell the video rights on the internet.
And the statements about Blizzard rank and file being generally just as upset about the decision has the ring of truth to me. In every dev studio I'm at least generally aware of, including Paragon Studios, there is a keen awareness of the fact that every developer has their own personal threshold for public participation, and that personal threshold is basically always acknowledged and accepted. Its why not all Paragon Studios and NCSoft employees that work on CoX have red names, for example, and why some are almost completely invisible. Even Blizzard employees perfectly comfortable with being completely transparent about their real names and identities are going to know and sympathize with other employees that are not, and most of them are likely to be a part of the MMO player community in general and have similar sensibilities as the majority apparently do.
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I just wish he had been using his real name here when I first joined, because while I had learned to ignore him by his real name years ago, I didn't realize that Venture was the same guy for a couple of months. Sucked in!
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This is ironic:
* Game implements an in-game feature (the ability to change your character's sex with the science pack). Venture argues vociferously against it because it could encourage people to ERP kinky sex.
* Game implements invasion of real-world privacy with potential for harmful real-world consequences, Venture argues vociferously that such harm is statistically insignificant and should play no role in Blizzard's decisions.
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