PVP Caging


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Wait... so cage is really dead? Maybe it was a good idea to re-up...


 

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Originally Posted by Labrynth55 View Post
Wait... so cage is really dead? Maybe it was a good idea to re-up...
Grav's Aoe cage does not work at all. The FF and Sonic on a troller lasts 8 seconds with a 30 second recharge time. Defender is 4 seconds. So yeah dead.


 

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Which is why there aren't any on any teams anymore. We've switched the 2 emp/1 kin/2 sonic/1 rad/2 blaster lineup to the 2 emp/2 rad/4 blaster lineup instead...

WB Lab!


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Which is why there aren't any on any teams anymore. We've switched the 2 emp/1 kin/2 sonic/1 rad/2 blaster lineup to the 2 emp/2 rad/4 blaster lineup instead...

WB Lab!
You may be running 2 emps 2 rad 4 blaster. No one else is. When used to be good used to be around they still ran kins. Soco runs doms and stalkers and im still trying to convince Fats to run a sonic sonic instead of a rad. And never more then 1 rad btw.


 

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I was being as generic sounding as possible. We've run a kin in almost every practice as well as doms and stalkers.


"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF

Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')

 

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Originally Posted by Daknah View Post
You may be running 2 emps 2 rad 4 blaster. No one else is. When used to be good used to be around they still ran kins. Soco runs doms and stalkers and im still trying to convince Fats to run a sonic sonic instead of a rad. And never more then 1 rad btw.
dUmb sometimes runs 2 rads when we try to confuse y'all with extra farm targets.


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dUmb, etc.
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Lab has been trying to lure me back with rumors of fixed suppression and nerfed cages.

How does suppression work now?


 

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Originally Posted by NotPutzing View Post
Lab has been trying to lure me back with rumors of fixed suppression and nerfed cages.

How does suppression work now?
Arena turns off travel suppression completely.
In zones, suppression is a factor of (iirc, someone correct me as needed) power activation time, heals etc. Basically, in a zone if you do anything that targets, buffs, heals someone is getting suppressed for a few seconds.

Arena matches now are set to no Heal Decay (removing suppression from Heal effects) Diminishing Returns on (excluding heals...since all players have a global resist bonus and their resist toggles...as an example I fought a Dark Tanker with DR off and his Psi Resist was 81% or something crazy), No Travel Suppression and map picks to challenged, challenger, random.

Holds do affect you for a short period, so there is some stop and go, but it's not as bad as zones. You're not really going to see Sonic around much, even though Clarity does activate faster than CM, the shields will add all of 4-5% Res at that and everyone is using Psi Blasters...so yeah.

Outside of that, there's a buff period at the start of each match so you won't get nuked...but nukes do about as much damage as a ladybug crashing into a hum-vee's windshield, so no issue there. You respawn on a rolling 15 second timer, so if you die at 9:22, you'll respawn at 9:15, get a few seconds to retoggle then go.

Matches that are in a draw state after the timer go to Sudden Death, which is basically lame so we call it a draw.

AS doesn't do as much damage as it used to, but the epic attacks of Stalkers and Tankers are like getting hit by a Buick.

You an also email inspirations to yourself so you'd have a ton of Respite, but that's been fixed on test so you'll have your regular load of greens...Sturdy doesn't do much outside TP protect, adding all of 6-8% Res at most because of DR.

A lot of the old school guys are gone though...dUmb is still around, Silit too, Hot Heals...Smoke Signal, Peril and some others but there's some new people too.

Also, there are PvP IOs that add a lot of range to your attacks and have a combination of PvE and PvP bonuses that work in Arena...ask Slax or Psoma or Lib to get you in dUmb chat so we can catch up.

P.S. A friend on Pinn has your account info and it's always funny when NotPutzing pipes up in the LethalLadies channel or I see one of your toons kicking around, heh.

Welcome back (?)


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Hey Putz. Yeah, suppression = caging basically being a non-issue atm. About the only thing Kara didn't mention about the new ladder/arena settings is that we limit teams to 2 stalkers, because most people wanted to feel a little safer swimming with a shark net up. I still prefer the i12 system, and going into zones makes me want to throw up, but it's possible to have fun with the arena settings set like we do: No TS, No HD, DR on, and small insp only.


 

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Hey Neuronia and Psoma!

Yeah, I let him keep my account active while I was gone. Despite my "DEVS RUINED PVP!!1!" anger, I figured it wasn't worth denying a friend an IO'd fire/kin. (I've been gone so long, is that still even the farm toon?)

I am planning on reinstalling and taking a look around either tonight or tomorrow. Nice that you can turn off all the stuff in arenas, but yuck yuck yuck that suppression is still in zones. The thing I loved most about CoH pvp was the movement, and it sucks if you don't have that when messing around in zones. And if I'm correct that no HD means no heal decay, which means there still is heal decay in zones, well bleh.

Hopefully I'll be able to get in a game of kickball or something at some point, it would be a shame to come back to visit and not be able to do my favorite part of the game.


 

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an IO'd fire/kin. (I've been gone so long, is that still even the farm toon?)
It still performs just as well. Other combination's work too like Elec/Shield or Spines/Fire scraps, or toons for those short lived special farms.


 

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Originally Posted by NotPutzing View Post
Hey Neuronia and Psoma!

Yeah, I let him keep my account active while I was gone. Despite my "DEVS RUINED PVP!!1!" anger, I figured it wasn't worth denying a friend an IO'd fire/kin. (I've been gone so long, is that still even the farm toon?)

I am planning on reinstalling and taking a look around either tonight or tomorrow. Nice that you can turn off all the stuff in arenas, but yuck yuck yuck that suppression is still in zones. The thing I loved most about CoH pvp was the movement, and it sucks if you don't have that when messing around in zones. And if I'm correct that no HD means no heal decay, which means there still is heal decay in zones, well bleh.

Hopefully I'll be able to get in a game of kickball or something at some point, it would be a shame to come back to visit and not be able to do my favorite part of the game.
Basically zone PvP is retarded (yay for heals not healing and movement powers not moving) and full of Scrappers, Stalkers, and Tankers, but it's okay if you're just messing around here and there.


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Originally Posted by NotPutzing View Post
Hey Neuronia and Psoma!

Yeah, I let him keep my account active while I was gone. Despite my "DEVS RUINED PVP!!1!" anger, I figured it wasn't worth denying a friend an IO'd fire/kin. (I've been gone so long, is that still even the farm toon?)

I am planning on reinstalling and taking a look around either tonight or tomorrow. Nice that you can turn off all the stuff in arenas, but yuck yuck yuck that suppression is still in zones. The thing I loved most about CoH pvp was the movement, and it sucks if you don't have that when messing around in zones. And if I'm correct that no HD means no heal decay, which means there still is heal decay in zones, well bleh.

Hopefully I'll be able to get in a game of kickball or something at some point, it would be a shame to come back to visit and not be able to do my favorite part of the game.
Did lab give you the vent info?


 

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Originally Posted by Labrynth55 View Post
Wait... so cage is really dead? Maybe it was a good idea to re-up...
But Lab, you loved to be caged back in the day


 

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Originally Posted by NotPutzing View Post
Hey Neuronia and Psoma!

Yeah, I let him keep my account active while I was gone. Despite my "DEVS RUINED PVP!!1!" anger, I figured it wasn't worth denying a friend an IO'd fire/kin. (I've been gone so long, is that still even the farm toon?)

I am planning on reinstalling and taking a look around either tonight or tomorrow. Nice that you can turn off all the stuff in arenas, but yuck yuck yuck that suppression is still in zones. The thing I loved most about CoH pvp was the movement, and it sucks if you don't have that when messing around in zones. And if I'm correct that no HD means no heal decay, which means there still is heal decay in zones, well bleh.

Hopefully I'll be able to get in a game of kickball or something at some point, it would be a shame to come back to visit and not be able to do my favorite part of the game.

hai putz! make ed come back


 

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sooo lab,myk,rox, putz back sorta, are we about to see a Victroy Reborn Reborn????


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there will be way to many badges in gr for rox to spend time pvping...


 

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Back in the day I loved being perma-caged, I could gather my thoughts and meditate on why I was caged instead of say Shard or Well.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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I gotta admit that I didn't care much for the idea of caging. It was like the current mez system in that you could't do anything (such as popping an insp) to personally counter being caged...aside from begging your teammates to drop the cager. In officials it wasn't the end of the world because you had the players available to appropriately counter, but I spent many a KB round nearly perma-caged. I never raged or anything, since it was a good strategy, but I can't say it was much fun saying "still caged" while playing cat and mouse with the cager(s) for a good portion of a round. That being said, i12 caging > i13 PvP.


 

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Welcome back Putz. Nice to see ya.


"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF

Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')