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Originally Posted by Borderline Boss
What kindve queer takes a dom cage
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Originally Posted by Borderline Boss
What kindve queer takes a dom cage
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Originally Posted by Griefer_Dirge
Biggest problem with this game is people conjuring up some idea that they have anything useful to contribute.
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tru spiks dimension shift target and phase spike liek pro in forst of noub tree. wdup?
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Originally Posted by JonnyDeadSide
Actually, its not. It's people like you. The ones that feel the self entitled need to point out when "they think" others are being useless and verbally attack them for "trying" to contribute something that's at least constructive, thereby making there own drivel useless and troll. While this idea was not a partial and/or complete game fix/improvement in any way, it was at least using energy in a positive way, whereas your energy is pure troll...and a waste of all our time. What did you contribute here? You score 0 cool kid E-points. Back to the bridge with you....
Attacking people to simply make them feel bad for "trying" to help is about as D-bag as you get. At least -Hot told him "why" his idea was fail. He also did this without calling the "person" fail. Just the "idea" the op posted was shot down by -Hot, and done so without telling the person they are useless. The only useless contribution was yours. Hell even my less than miniscule contribution is at least an effort to get rid of trolls such as yourself. I should have gotten a coffee first this morning instead of reading...... |
caging was one of the most retarded mez's in the old system. one button to completely eliminate one or more players for the entire duration of combat is not fun(and required zero skill), especially when you knew you were going to be the target of perma caging.
anyone who wants it back the way it was is just being nostalgic for the sake of being nostalgic. we have tons of better stuff to want back before this.
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Originally Posted by Solo_One
caging was one of the most retarded mez's in the old system. one button to completely eliminate one or more players for the entire duration of combat is not fun(and required zero skill), especially when you knew you were going to be the target of perma caging.
anyone who wants it back the way it was is just being nostalgic for the sake of being nostalgic. we have tons of better stuff to want back before this. |
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Originally Posted by JonnyDeadSide
Actually, its not. It's people like you. The ones that feel the self entitled need to point out when "they think" others are being useless and verbally attack them for "trying" to contribute something that's at least constructive, thereby making there own drivel useless and troll. While this idea was not a partial and/or complete game fix/improvement in any way, it was at least using energy in a positive way, whereas your energy is pure troll...and a waste of all our time. What did you contribute here? You score 0 cool kid E-points. Back to the bridge with you....
Attacking people to simply make them feel bad for "trying" to help is about as D-bag as you get. At least -Hot told him "why" his idea was fail. He also did this without calling the "person" fail. Just the "idea" the op posted was shot down by -Hot, and done so without telling the person they are useless. The only useless contribution was yours. Hell even my less than miniscule contribution is at least an effort to get rid of trolls such as yourself. I should have gotten a coffee first this morning instead of reading...... |
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Originally Posted by JonnyDeadSide
Actually, its not. It's people like you. The ones that feel the self entitled need to point out when "they think" others are being useless and verbally attack them for "trying" to contribute something that's at least constructive, thereby making there own drivel useless and troll. While this idea was not a partial and/or complete game fix/improvement in any way, it was at least using energy in a positive way, whereas your energy is pure troll...and a waste of all our time. What did you contribute here? You score 0 cool kid E-points. Back to the bridge with you....
Attacking people to simply make them feel bad for "trying" to help is about as D-bag as you get. At least -Hot told him "why" his idea was fail. He also did this without calling the "person" fail. Just the "idea" the op posted was shot down by -Hot, and done so without telling the person they are useless. The only useless contribution was yours. Hell even my less than miniscule contribution is at least an effort to get rid of trolls such as yourself. I should have gotten a coffee first this morning instead of reading...... |
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Originally Posted by JonnyDeadSide
Actually, its not. It's people like you. The ones that feel the self entitled need to point out when "they think" others are being useless and verbally attack them for "trying" to contribute something that's at least constructive, thereby making there own drivel useless and troll. While this idea was not a partial and/or complete game fix/improvement in any way, it was at least using energy in a positive way, whereas your energy is pure troll...and a waste of all our time. What did you contribute here? You score 0 cool kid E-points. Back to the bridge with you....
Attacking people to simply make them feel bad for "trying" to help is about as D-bag as you get. At least -Hot told him "why" his idea was fail. He also did this without calling the "person" fail. Just the "idea" the op posted was shot down by -Hot, and done so without telling the person they are useless. The only useless contribution was yours. Hell even my less than miniscule contribution is at least an effort to get rid of trolls such as yourself. I should have gotten a coffee first this morning instead of reading...... |
Reaver!!!!
The problem with is instead of keeping an open mind on a new PvP idea you shut it down cause you rather not deal with it. (leave the PvP ideas to the Devs and what do we get... "Diminshing Returns".
- Perma caging is impossible in the new system so not a valid argument
- i purposed a temporary no phase after being caged (possibly equivalent to the duration of the cage) there by implementing a new way of countering hibernate or phase shift
- saying that my idea is "fail" without coming up with a better idea other than to leave cages the way thay are is fail in itself.
- All mez powers should be effective in PvP cages shouldn't be treated any different than any other mez and require the same attn.
The problem with your suggestion is that there's already a nophase-like mechanic in place with cages: cage suppression. After a cage wears off, you can't cage that target for a certain amount of time. If they choose to use that suppression period to phase, Hibernate, whatever else... good for them. By the time they come out of phase, you can cage them again, or just spike them since they won't be able to phase again for another 90 seconds anyways.
gimmie a valid point in which a cage can be utlized and maybe ill accept that as a valid responce
cage= forced phase it should grant no phase simple as that
every other mez targets can still be effected so mez surpression makes since for all mezzes
but there should be a reason to take a cage power
force phase + phased stalker AS combo
makes since to me like i said i dont have any toons with cages but if the implemented somthing like this i can see them as useful
I would say the ability to completely remove one of the other team's healers or damage dealers is a "valid point" and a "good reason." Somewhat less so when the cage only lasts 4 or 8 seconds, but it's still valid. I'm not even sure what you're getting at with the "use cages to phase a target so two phased Stalkers can AS them" idea, because it just seems incredibly stupid in that you're causing both Stalkers to waste their phase so it won't be up when they actually need it, and a stun/immob fits the bill just as well. Mezzes are for setting up spikes, cages are for taking players out of the fight to make your spike on the actual target easier.
Really, there's nothing wrong with cages except they don't last long enough.
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Originally Posted by Hijacked123
The problem with is instead of keeping an open mind on a new PvP idea you shut it down cause you rather not deal with it. (leave the PvP ideas to the Devs and what do we get... "Diminshing Returns".
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Originally Posted by ConFlict
You have close to no clue what you are talking about. And most of the devs crappy ideas came from real men of genius such as yourself.
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| cages shouldn't be treated any different than any other mez and require the same attn. |
A stalker spike is just one way it could be utilized... think in terms of duels then (plz have an open mind when you read this)... your a grav/elec dom vs a sonic/dark corr the battle is going completely in your favor (meaning that the corr is almost completely sapped of all its endurance) you know at any second the corr will pop into hibernate to recover all its end back, so knowing this you cage him, and temporarly stop him from being able to hibernate allowing you just enough time to complete the sapp and win the battle. thats all im saying make it usefull its not Oped its just another tactic
If you're going to win anyways, why even bother with that? lol. If you can't kill him between Hibernate cycles you're probably doing it wrong (or he's good at evasion or brought a tray of greens, and none of those three requires a change to cages).
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Originally Posted by Hijacked123
A stalker spike is just one way it could be utilized... think in terms of duels then (plz have an open mind when you read this)... your a grav/elec dom vs a sonic/dark corr the battle is going completely in your favor (meaning that the corr is almost completely sapped of all its endurance) you know at any second the corr will pop into hibernate to recover all its end back, so knowing this you cage him, and temporarly stop him from being able to hibernate allowing you just enough time to complete the sapp and win the battle. thats all im saying make it usefull its not Oped its just another tactic
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Originally Posted by Hijacked123
A stalker spike is just one way it could be utilized... think in terms of duels then (plz have an open mind when you read this)... your a grav/elec dom vs a sonic/dark corr the battle is going completely in your favor (meaning that the corr is almost completely sapped of all its endurance) you know at any second the corr will pop into hibernate to recover all its end back, so knowing this you cage him, and temporarly stop him from being able to hibernate allowing you just enough time to complete the sapp and win the battle. thats all im saying make it usefull its not Oped its just another tactic
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For caging to "work" again would require a revamp of the entire mez system to keep it in line with all the other bs par excellence, which would in turn bring up discussions of fixing the whole resistance and defense issues which of course would bring up the fact that i12 pvp was more fun than any of this even if the current system is somehow "more balanced." Personally, I think we all know that they need to fix Full Auto first. If I can spin my camera that many times during a rotation, someone other than ELF STALKER or ADD Boy should be dead.
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Originally Posted by Sneaky_Prophet
For caging to "work" again would require a revamp of the entire mez system to keep it in line with all the other bs par excellence, which would in turn bring up discussions of fixing the whole resistance and defense issues which of course would bring up the fact that i12 pvp was more fun than any of this even if the current system is somehow "more balanced." Personally, I think we all know that they need to fix Full Auto first. If I can spin my camera that many times during a rotation, someone other than ELF STALKER or ADD Boy should be dead.
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Originally Posted by bancruptBarrier
lol ADD Boy.
best stalker to ever grace freedom, son. |