Superpower origin?


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I thought I'd bring this to the masses. I've a character who I love terribly, except that his origin took me weeks to decide on. Let me explain.

A mutant girl with illusion abilities had an imaginary friend. The pair played every day, and she taught him about the world and how it should work. However, the girl was killed in a car crash with her parents. With the end of her life so unexpected, the imaginary friend took on a corporeal form, and now he's a character of mine.

My question is, what origin would you have classed him as? There's enough debate between the 'tech is guns' and the 'tech is more advanced than that' crowd, so I was curious where you'd file a character whose origin is other superpowers. The character is made and levelled, it's just something I've always remained terribly curious about.


 

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I would say if this could be reproduced consistently (although it'd be a very terrible thing to try killing lots of illusionist little girls with imaginary friends ), Natural. All illusionary imaginary friends whose creators die unexpectedly turn corporeal. Natural.

If it can't be reproduced, I would probably go with Magic. He was created through magic initially, and something woogie happened to make him tangible.


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I thought I'd bring this to the masses. I've a character who I love terribly, except that his origin took me weeks to decide on. Let me explain.

A mutant girl with illusion abilities had an imaginary friend. The pair played every day, and she taught him about the world and how it should work. However, the girl was killed in a car crash with her parents. With the end of her life so unexpected, the imaginary friend took on a corporeal form, and now he's a character of mine.
That really is quite delightful. One of the most creative origin stories for a character that I've ever read.

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My question is, what origin would you have classed him as? There's enough debate between the 'tech is guns' and the 'tech is more advanced than that' crowd, so I was curious where you'd file a character whose origin is other superpowers. The character is made and levelled, it's just something I've always remained terribly curious about.
Possibly Mutation, since the little girl actually created him. She could have had a mutation which channeled some part of her mind into her fantastical creation(s).

Possibly Magic. There could have been a spell cast somewhere at just the right time to turn this Pinocchio into a real boy.

Possibly Natural. He is what he is, what he has always been and will always be, he's just a little more solid now.

Science? Perhaps an entity from another dimension was the actual source of the intelligence behind the imaginary friend, or was following the little girl's discussions and decided to keep some part of her alive by making her imagination come to life after she died.

Even Tech works. A machine somewhere, nanites working together in a fashion similar to the Geth (Mass Effect, ME2), a holograph bestowed with AI...

They all work. I probably would have picked Natural, representative of the willpower of that manifestation and to indicate that no third party or outside source was responsible for its newly developed existence.


 

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Let's see It's possible the girl's illusion abilities were far more powerful than anyone could have guessed and her imaginary friend actually became self aware and became real. In which case I'd call it a Mutant.

If the lifeform the girl befriended was actually an intelligence that lived out of phase with our world and her powers breached the veil between both worlds then the origin may very well be Natural as it is merely one of an entire species in it's own world.

As Aggelakis offered it could also be Magic.

Then again using the idea that the intelligence was somehow out of phase with our world it could also be possible that it used some sort of mechanical device to breach the veil between worlds and cross over to our world which would result in a Science or Tech origin.


 

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Thanks for the replies, all. I've been playing the little guy for years, but only recently have people I've been teaming with started making friendly comments and asking me why I chose that origin, when it quite blatently should be ______. I thought I'd come to the boards, as all you're all generally great with these sorts of things.

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That really is quite delightful. One of the most creative origin stories for a character that I've ever read.
Thanks! He's one of my characters whose stories I'm more proud of, and probably the one I get the most compliments on.

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Possibly Natural. He is what he is, what he has always been and will always be, he's just a little more solid now.
This is what I went with after a couple days pondering. I thought that his powers are completely natural to him, but it wasn't a mutation as he doesn't have any 'base DNA' to be compared to.


 

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I'd have to say natural too.

A certain Kryptonian with a S logo also happens to be of Natural origin...

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I'd go with natural as well.


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This is what I went with after a couple days pondering. I thought that his powers are completely natural to him, but it wasn't a mutation as he doesn't have any 'base DNA' to be compared to.
Yeah, that's where I was leaning reading this.

Very nice background there, too.


 

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What a brilliant, but tragic, origin. I can just see this poor little guy wandering alone now, with very little prior contact to the human world. I'd love to see how his story would develop . . .

I think this is a tough call to make. I don't think your character itself is a mutant, even thought the girl was. And you could make an argument for tech or science (the girl was exposed to something which allowed for him to take form). And that could also be true with magic.

I don't know how "natural" this type of event could be, but it is probably the most likely answer. If I am a potter and I create a vase, that would be a natural result of my abilities. Perhaps it is the same with this character. It may have taken a life of its own even despite her death.


 

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My first impulse would have been magic, but reading the thread, I think I lean towards natural now.


 

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Well, personally I would narrow it down to either Natural or Mutant. Magic and Science are out of question because he's neither the result of a spell or freak accident.

As far as using guns go, I'm in the "The Technology origin is more advanced than that" field. After all, Manticore is Natural origin despite having lots of gadgets like frickin' teleportation arrows. Batman is also a gadgeteer and I think most people would consider him more of a Natural than a Technology Hero.

So, Natural or Mutation? He's the product of a Mutant origin character so you could classify him as a Mutant as well, but then again, he doesn't actually have any of those mutant powers himself and while mutants are humans that are different, your toon's a natural illusion, so to speak.

So I guess I'd go for Natural myself.


 

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I give two thumbs up for the back story. =D

I'd personally make him Natural. The way you explain it, I can eliminate the other origins.

He doesn't have any special mutation, regardless of the child's powers, so Mutation is out.

He isn't created by science, so that's out too.

He isn't created by tech, nor is he being held in the world by it. So that's gone.

He doesn't seem to have any magical abilities, so magic is gone too.

Since he is just himself, with no special alterations, being created by a mutant wouldn't have anything to do with him. His powers are natural to him, so I would classify him as Natural.

Of course, that's just me. One of the things I love about this game is the flexibility of the character creation system. It's a good thing, in my opinion, that the origins don't really give any special perks. It lets you create whoever or whatever you want with no limitations on your creativity.

Out of curiosity, what Archetype and build is he? Sounds like an interesting character.


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I would say if this could be reproduced consistently (although it'd be a very terrible thing to try killing lots of illusionist little girls with imaginary friends ),
Those Carnival of Shadows Illusionists who so-called "heroes" kill for badges were little girls once, you know :P

Come to think of it, what happens to all the decoy Phantasms they leave behind? Do they just fade away?...


 

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I give two thumbs up for the back story. =D

I'd personally make him Natural. The way you explain it, I can eliminate the other origins.

He doesn't have any special mutation, regardless of the child's powers, so Mutation is out.

He isn't created by science, so that's out too.

He isn't created by tech, nor is he being held in the world by it. So that's gone.

He doesn't seem to have any magical abilities, so magic is gone too.

Since he is just himself, with no special alterations, being created by a mutant wouldn't have anything to do with him. His powers are natural to him, so I would classify him as Natural.

Of course, that's just me. One of the things I love about this game is the flexibility of the character creation system. It's a good thing, in my opinion, that the origins don't really give any special perks. It lets you create whoever or whatever you want with no limitations on your creativity.

Out of curiosity, what Archetype and build is he? Sounds like an interesting character.
I like the logic you used to make your decision, but when I think Natural I ask myself if what he is and can do is natural for his species. If he is the only one of his kind I'd consider him a mutation or something other than natural.


 

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My questionis, what caused the imaginary friend to become real? If it was the girl's power making him more and more real over time then I would say he is a mutant because he evolved beyond the form of a simple illusion to become self aware and sentient.

Then again, as the (supposedly) only one of his kind, his is a new lifeform and therefore could not technically be a mutant since there is no other baseline lifeform to compare him to.

Lastly, if there was some scientific or mystical explanation for his coming into being when the girl died - e.g. a spark of her consciousness or soul imbued him with life, then his origin could relate to one of those.

I guess it's all in how you look at it, and I don't know enough about what you had in mind for his conversion to reality to say for sure.

Cool origin story though. Reminds me a little of Dragonberry's IIRC, but definitely not the same.


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I would guess the little girl had some magic ability to spawn him. However he would be natural given he is what he is.

What I get is the girl had the magic and by means of final wish say she was dying and wished her "Friend would be okay" the wish was granted via her life force transfered to him somehow.

So in this case it be down to Magic or Natural. His ability are part of who and what he is he may be the only one to ever be but he was born with those abilities and with out DNA it has to be Natural for me as well.

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