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Thirded, that's a cool name.
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Originally Posted by TyrantMikey
If you're looking for a suitable name, how about Paragon University? You might even then be able to add a subtitle, like Department of History.
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We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
ParagonU.org?
PargonUniversity.org?
PU.org?
CityofLore.org?
CoL.org?
TheFBSA.org?
FBSAFiles.org?
PortalCorp.org?
ParagonInfoNet.net?
.org and .net if i remember is cheaper, but also it's the more proper domain name to use... dot com is for Commercial businesses ^.^
One vote for CityofLore.
My second choice is Paragon University.
This is a really cool concept Durakken. Nice idea. I hope it does well.
ParagonU.org <- .com taken but .org available
PargonUniversity.org <- taken
PU.org <- just really bad
CityofLore.org <- can get would likely get .com
CoL.org? <- can probably get but the above would be better
TheFBSA.org? <- too many people have similar
FBSAFiles.org? <- too many people have similar
PortalCorp.org? <-taken
ParagonInfoNet.net? <- lame
So it comes down to ParagonU.org or CityofLore.com
And we're 3 peole like each Paragon University or City of Lore...
City of Lore.
Paragon U might be too confusing considering...
I honestly think CoH has too many wikis as is, and I'm not a fan that the OP has made another.
It can be confusing enough for me to find the up-to-date Wiki, let along for a new player. The last thing we need is another wiki.
I don't mean to be a downer, but why again can lore just not be added to the current CoH wiki? Why not make it a central source of information instead of having to browse 2 or 3 different wikis to look for something?
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What do you mean too many wikis? There is ParagonWiki that doesn't work for Lore in it's current form and then there is "server" and RP wikis... There aren't "too many"|
Originally Posted by Street_Wolf
I honestly think CoH has too many wikis as is, and I'm not a fan that the OP has made another.
It can be confusing enough for me to find the up-to-date Wiki, let along for a new player. The last thing we need is another wiki. I don't mean to be a downer, but why again can lore just not be added to the current CoH wiki? Why not make it a central source of information instead of having to browse 2 or 3 different wikis to look for something? |
As far as "why not put it into ParagonWiki?" Paragonwiki and it's format isn't good for lore. Anything more than that will lead me to getting more neg rep and take this thread off track as well as possible create hard feelings so just leave it at that ^.^ Obviously there are people that think there is a need for this type of wiki so that's enough to back up my reason for why >.>
In all honesty, if you have to mangle the URL to reserve it, it will just be harder for people to find it. Go with CityOfLore.
You are intending to refer back to known, reliable sources on ParagonWiki, right? It will cut down on the massive amounts of writing you'll have to do for topics like the 5th Column, The Regulators, and whatnot. And, it will increase the site's credibility.
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Actually I would prefer to write out everything that isn't a direct quote from the game...and for those I'm not sure if it would be best to ref link to paragonwiki or just leave it as it is right now, which is list where in the game it can be found or just copy/paste the text... but the second certainly is the easiest for mission text information.
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Originally Posted by TyrantMikey
In all honesty, if you have to mangle the URL to reserve it, it will just be harder for people to find it. Go with CityOfLore.
You are intending to refer back to known, reliable sources on ParagonWiki, right? It will cut down on the massive amounts of writing you'll have to do for topics like the 5th Column, The Regulators, and whatnot. And, it will increase the site's credibility. |
CityofLore.com is up and running ^.^ woot
Now to get a good logo banner...
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This is where I think I'm sitting in this whole thing. I'm not trying to deter the OP from carrying on, because their mind's made up and I've no issue with that. I just think that a more useful solution would have been to get some people dedicated to updating ParagonWiki with lore information. Even if they make a copy of some pages, such as "Lord Nemesis: Lore", and store it all there. I think that as much information at one source is a great idea, and even though I only use it infrequently, the Titan Network is doing a wonderful job with that at the moment.|
Originally Posted by Street_Wolf
I honestly think CoH has too many wikis as is, and I'm not a fan that the OP has made another.
It can be confusing enough for me to find the up-to-date Wiki, let along for a new player. The last thing we need is another wiki. I don't mean to be a downer, but why again can lore just not be added to the current CoH wiki? Why not make it a central source of information instead of having to browse 2 or 3 different wikis to look for something? |
I was even a tad uneasy when the Ouroboros Portal opened up. It's something I'm sure I'd be a little more active with if more people moved over from their respective server handbooks, and if a more uniform page setup was determined. I can't feel myself settling in when every page has a different style of character box. But until then, having at least three character databases makes me feel less inclined to use any of them.
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From his posts, I think the OP is looking for two primary things different from the Paragon Wiki. First, he wants to be able to find the lore much more easily. As an example, when you go to Statesman's page on the Paragon Wiki, there's information there's a lot of lore there, but there's also information on Statesman's Task Force, badges you can get for helping or defeating Statesman, even a link to a page about Jack "Statesman" Emmert. When he types in Statesman, he wants to see game lore about Statesman, period, without having to sift through all of the other stuff. Second, he wants a more specialized index of lore resources than what we have at the Paragon Wiki. That's actually doable on the Paragon Wiki, though we've always preferred using categories to group related topics.|
Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
This is where I think I'm sitting in this whole thing. I'm not trying to deter the OP from carrying on, because their mind's made up and I've no issue with that. I just think that a more useful solution would have been to get some people dedicated to updating ParagonWiki with lore information. Even if they make a copy of some pages, such as "Lord Nemesis: Lore", and store it all there. I think that as much information at one source is a great idea, and even though I only use it infrequently, the Titan Network is doing a wonderful job with that at the moment.
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I hope this new wiki does well. I don't see it as a "competing" wiki; it's more like a wiki of specialized information. Ultimately, I'd like for the information that is in his lore wiki to also be in the Paragon Wiki also in some shape, form, or fashion, as long as it's part of the game's canon, which I think he is striving for. But if having it consolidated succinctly in one place helps people find what they're looking for more quickly, hey, I'm all for that and I hope it does well.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I was even a tad uneasy when the Ouroboros Portal opened up. It's something I'm sure I'd be a little more active with if more people moved over from their respective server handbooks, and if a more uniform page setup was determined. I can't feel myself settling in when every page has a different style of character box. But until then, having at least three character databases makes me feel less inclined to use any of them.
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We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
yeah this isn't meant to be competing. It's just for getting the facts straight in the most consise form possible. And not having to worry about mechanics and such. The reason I don't know about linking to Paragonwiki for arcs and such is simply a consistency and linking issue is all ^.^
And formatting of various pages is part of the reason paragon wiki is quite a bit annoying to look for information on. like Statesman info is at the bottom of his page while Recluse's is on the right side of the page at the top. That could easily lead to missing that info because of that.
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The only info that states has that's "different" is his publication history... everything else is the same. The info boxes and even the table of contents are nearly identical. Although the "Quotes" section for Statesman has no info in it, so that's... not good.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
And formatting of various pages is part of the reason paragon wiki is quite a bit annoying to look for information on. like Statesman info is at the bottom of his page while Recluse's is on the right side of the page at the top. That could easily lead to missing that info because of that.
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Cityoflore.com is a darn cool name.
I get how some people feel wiki'd out. But it's not really "another wiki to keep up with for the same stuff". The resource it's providing wasn't available anywhere else to begin with. Paragon Wiki can't function without breaking the fourth wall into a million little pieces. This is why Paragon Wiki wouldn't function well as a lore resource. Tony seems to acknowledge that in an above post.
Really, an encyclopedic resource like this should have been a job for Paragon Studios, on their official website. And the best "lorepedia" would be one that accumulates in-game as you make new discoveries and achieve certain victories. Sort of like the way you accumulate souvenirs from story-arcs, just in a more cohesive, illustrated format. I don't think we're likely to see these things, but they would be nice (any devs reading this can file it as a suggestion). The last update to the official website's history page is from 2002, SIX years ago, when the Omega Team took the plunge. A lot has happened since then!
@Captain-Electric � Detective Marvel � The Sapien Spider � Moravec Man � The Old Norseman
Dark-Eyes � Doctor Serpentine � Stonecaster � Skymaiden � The Blue Jaguar
Guide to Altitis � A Comic for New Players � The Lore Project � Intro to extraterrestrials in CoH
if they were going to put that in the game i'd like to see how they do it in Mass Effect.
Personally I think there is a lot of information that would be stupid for the heroes/villains not have on hand. They are licensed and trained by an organization that has files on a bunch of these people...are you telling me they aren't going to provide you with a dossier of strengths, weaknesses, background, or anything else that may help yuo solve the case?
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Or worse, digging through oodles of forum posts, comics, novels and other material to find a simple historical fact that any average purse-losing-citizen would know from grade school. Oh wait...that must be how you feel right now |
Originally Posted by Durakken
if they were going to put that in the game i'd like to see how they do it in Mass Effect.
Personally I think there is a lot of information that would be stupid for the heroes/villains not have on hand. They are licensed and trained by an organization that has files on a bunch of these people...are you telling me they aren't going to provide you with a dossier of strengths, weaknesses, background, or anything else that may help yuo solve the case? |
Edit: Oh and somebody should make a cool banner for our sigs.
@Captain-Electric � Detective Marvel � The Sapien Spider � Moravec Man � The Old Norseman
Dark-Eyes � Doctor Serpentine � Stonecaster � Skymaiden � The Blue Jaguar
Guide to Altitis � A Comic for New Players � The Lore Project � Intro to extraterrestrials in CoH
Yes some banners would be nice...
So... I wonder if Newty is reading this or wating for me to PM her...
You should have some cool banners, like us!
I would like some cool banners...not necesarily like unleashed...
No pole dancer banners?
It's cannon ya know.
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Originally Posted by LISAR
No pole dancer banners?
It's cannon ya know. |
What ELSE do you do with scantily clad women?
I really look forward to the Lore Wiki getting complete. I'd contribute, but contributing on Wiki sites always gives me a headache. Poor excuse, sure, but I shall at least wish you some good luck in your endeavour!
And... it's back >.>