So I Just Played The New Villain Arcs...

Tangler · 05-01-2010 10:36 AM

And colour me impressed. Kudos to whoever wrote and designed them as they were the best canon arcs yet, and I especially liked how [SPOILERS] saving my clone from the fire led to the ungrateful swine from stopping my bank robbery. [/SPOILERS]

Sooo when can see branching dialogue for MA, or dare I say even branching stories?

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Eva Destruction · 05-01-2010 11:23 AM

"I can't stay mad at what is essentially me. I love me!" --Bender.

My clone however, is not me, she is a lousy beanbagging copy of me, and she is a jerk.

The dialogue must be gender-specific as Dean kept hitting on me. I would love to at least have that option: to set different dialogue for variables. The most obvious one that comes to mind is differing dialogue based on alignment....and can we get an $alignment variable?

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LaserJesus · 05-01-2010 08:09 PM

Yeah, playing Dean's arc is definitely better when you're a female character.

And Dr. Aeon wrote the new villain arcs, by the way.

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Thirty-Seven · 05-01-2010 08:30 PM

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Yeah, playing Dean's arc is definitely better when you're a female character.

Not for me... I see him as a wannabe ganster who is probably a closet case.

Lazarus · 05-20-2010 09:40 PM

While the new villain arcs are pretty good, the 2nd one relies too much on the twists and doesn't feel nearly as cool on subsequent playthroughs. It's like trying to watch Fight Club after knowing who Tyler Durden really is.

I still have a big question though: why the hell was I cloned to begin with?

FredrikSvanberg · 05-21-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

While the new villain arcs are pretty good, the 2nd one relies too much on the twists and doesn't feel nearly as cool on subsequent playthroughs. It's like trying to watch Fight Club after knowing who Tyler Durden really is.

I guess I must stop enjoying watching Fight Club now. Oh wait, I don't.

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I still have a big question though: why the hell was I cloned to begin with?

Because you're the main character, of course.

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Wicked_Wendy · 05-21-2010 03:22 AM

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Not for me... I see him as a wannabe ganster who is probably a closet case.

Hey I have contacts that gruble at at, insult me, tell me to go away I bother them when they run out of mission and all sorts of other rude things. frankly being hit on, even by so obvious a classic lounge lizard as Dean, was kind of nice and at the end of his arc I did high five him LOL

I liked both Dean's and Leonard's arc and did think the writing was superior. If I had any complaint at all.. Why won't Leonard give me his cell phone number? LOL Even after defeating Protean I still had to run all the way back to him to get the final mission and complete the arc. that aside i enjoyed running it and kudos to Doc Aeon for the work! :-D

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Lady Arete · 05-22-2010 02:29 AM

I agree. I am very impressed with the quality of the story and all the things you could do in the villain arc.
As said elsewhere... in this arc I felt like the big villain. I was immersed in the story, I was not another mook on the street that other contacts discard when you are no longer useful to them.
I would so love to get the possibility of Deans briefing (male/female text), the possibilities of "Army of 8" - badge mission in the AE (hint hint), as well as the Spawn AMBUSH on Player -feature.

If GR missions has this quality of writing... then I got good vibes for GR

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Warkupo · 05-22-2010 02:45 AM

I loved the hell out of it, and I think it works well for CoV, where the villain is much more precise about how evil he wants to be. In CoH the day gets saved and it doesn't really matter how much particular angst you had on the subject; you're still, more or less, a hero whose goal was to, more or less, save the day. For a villain it's much more useful to have these sort of choice based missions because being a villain is ultimately about being in command of your choices.

If I had one of these types of Arcs every month I wouldn't even have to look at other games.

Lazarus · 05-22-2010 11:58 AM

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I guess I must stop enjoying watching Fight Club now. Oh wait, I don't.

YMMV. I found Fight Club to be pretty boring after the first viewing, it's no Usual Suspects.

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Because you're the main character, of course.

Not a good enough handwave. There should at least be some reasons given in the arc itself for how and why they used your DNA, right down to the point of reproducing the clothing you happen to be wearing that day. Actually, the cloning via DNA thing is ridiculous anyhow as it makes no sense for player characters who are robots, magical constructs, elemental beings, or anyone who is Science-origin (in which they would have to recreate the events that transformed you, assuming that it didn't really alter your base DNA). Something even more Sci-Fiey like a malfunctioning teleporter or quantum replication device could have covered that much better and still allow for things like the flawed clone and the nonsense of the 2nd wave in the cloning tests.

Megajoule · 05-24-2010 07:43 AM

It's comics.
That's how it works in comics.
Seriously.

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FredrikSvanberg · 05-24-2010 10:48 AM

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Not a good enough handwave. There should at least be some reasons given in the arc itself for how and why they used your DNA, right down to the point of reproducing the clothing you happen to be wearing that day.

It's a coincidence. They picked your character at random. They managed to buy your DNA from someone else, maybe one of the hospitals kept some and a nurse stole it. When they found out who you were they copied your usual costume, which you happened to be wearing. They just wanted someone else to pin the robbery on, to confuse and mislead. You are the main character of the story so you are it.

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Actually, the cloning via DNA thing is ridiculous anyhow as it makes no sense for player characters who are robots, magical constructs, elemental beings, or anyone who is Science-origin (in which they would have to recreate the events that transformed you, assuming that it didn't really alter your base DNA).

Players of such concepts should be used to making up **** to cover for those inconsistencies by now. I know I am.

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Something even more Sci-Fiey like a malfunctioning teleporter or quantum replication device could have covered that much better and still allow for things like the flawed clone and the nonsense of the 2nd wave in the cloning tests.

Sure, that could have worked too. Would probably have worked better. But now it's a cloning facility.

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