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Rogue Farmin': SS + FA Or SD?

Adeon Hawkwood

By Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-04-12 17:19 in Brutes

 

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
Yeah, I pretty much settled on Fire/Shield for the Scrapper, though that does mean I'll have to bypass the Television Farm, since it's Nemesis...

And for Brute, SS/WP wasn't an option. Either SS/SD or SS/FA.

At this point, I'm almost ready to just go ahead and make all 4: Claws/WP and Fire/SD Scrappers Gone Rogue/Villain, and SS/SD and SS/FA Brutes Gone Vigilante/Hero. Of course, I may scrap those, and do KinMelee, depending on how it turns out.
For the nems, if you're just farming for drops, your fire/sd scrap should be able to handle +0/x8 or +1/x8 with minimal difficulty.

And as someone mentioned earlier, with the sharing of epics, you could get more end help for your SS/SD brute, so that's good news for that set up.

 

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Wooo! Now that it's been Officialy Answered, I have no worries about bringing a Scrapper to Redside:

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How will the epic power pools/villain patron pools work for toons that change sides and/or stay in the gray area? by Cybernaut1

[Castle] A character who switches sides completely will retain their current Ancillary / Patron Powers until they respec. At which point, they will be forced to select from their "current" alignment. Heroes and Vigilantes count toward "Heroes". Villains and Rogue count toward "Villains".
Looks like I'll also be taking quite a few of my Villains to Vigilante, doing a respec, and then taking them back to Villain. Body Mastery Brutes, here I come!!



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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
Wooo! Now that it's been Officialy Answered, I have no worries about bringing a Scrapper to Redside:



Looks like I'll also be taking quite a few of my Villains to Vigilante, doing a respec, and then taking them back to Villain. Body Mastery Brutes, here I come!!
Ha, they answered my question!

 

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
Wooo! Now that it's been Officialy Answered, I have no worries about bringing a Scrapper to Redside:



Looks like I'll also be taking quite a few of my Villains to Vigilante, doing a respec, and then taking them back to Villain. Body Mastery Brutes, here I come!!
And if we get Tanker epics for some horribly wrong reason?

 

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SS-SD ( softcapped of course ) can do Nem. farm no problem, the trick is to beat on the Bosses FIRST then AoE the rest....That way, the minions go down , then the Lts...nothing left to Vengeance

 

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SS-SD ( softcapped of course ) can do Nem. farm no problem, the trick is to beat on the Bosses FIRST then AoE the rest....That way, the minions go down , then the Lts...nothing left to Vengeance
The size of the map and the density of a +2/8/BossesOn ensures your going to be wiped. I've never ran Nem' successfully with my SS/SD. I'm not sure if you have personally attempted this, but if you had I'm sure you'd rescind that advice.

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The size of the map and the density of a +2/8/BossesOn ensures your going to be wiped. I've never ran Nem' successfully with my SS/SD. I'm not sure if you have personally attempted this, but if you had I'm sure you'd rescind that advice.

Fury
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Rattler- if you can show us a video of a SS/SD ripping through a nem farm and staying alive, I will admit you are right. However, I have taken my own SS/SD to a nem farm on a couple of occasions, and got all kinds of new holes ripped. The simple fact of the matter is that Nem farms will always shred a defense based secondary to ribbons. Yes, my shielder is beyond softcapped on his own, and with a dollop of resists for good measure.

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I know this is a bit off topic but is that nemi farm good or something? I've always thought nemi wouldn't be very good to farm.

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I know this is a bit off topic but is that nemi farm good or something? I've always thought nemi wouldn't be very good to farm.
Well SS/Fire's tear through nemesis, so that's one reason. Also, Fakes give double xp so they're pretty good to go against if you're PL'ing.

Now, yes a SS/SD can run Liberate if you're careful like Rattler explained. Although, you'll still run into problems when there are more than one mob in close proximity to each other. But why fight against nemesis and deliberately slow down your killing speed when you can just go against something else.

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Another question: How does /SD handle Psi?

My most recent 50 is an Elec/SD Scrapper. Currently, my Fire/Kin has the Council Farm, and my MA/Regen has Freakshow (long story short, she hit 50, then got Family right as it was nerf'd, then didn't know about Demons, and moved on to Freaks, just as they got semi-nerf'd). Since I'd never activly tried to get the Farms, I had no real idea how I got the Council on my Fire/Kin, or how to get the Demon farm. I looked it up on the Wiki, and Council Farm is pretty much your reward from Unai for hitting 50.

The Demon Farm, however, requires you to wade through 5 missions of Carnies, 1 Matla Mission, and 1 DE Mission, just to get it. Since it's one of the farms I want to pick up on my Rogue /SD Brute, I'm wondering how /SD handles the Psi from the Carnies. Will I be OK with just standard, Common IOs, or should I wait and slot up some sets first? Obviously, Sets will give me better odds, but if I can make it through the Carnies without any real issues, then I'll probably go ahead and do that, and slot IO sets later.



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I'm sure you'll be fine either way if you turn your difficulty down.

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Shield defense for a brute is pretty damned squishy on common IOs. Its tank just isn't that strong, and unlike some of the other squishier sets, doesn't have many panic button options. One With the Shield is decent, but it crashes hard and isn't available that much. I don't even have it in my final SS/SD build.

Don't get me wrong, I would put SS/SD up against anything for solo farming speed, but with the way prices are on IO sets you should expect to lay a half billion at least to get it to a point where you'll really be comfortable. Contrast that with willpower, which is very strong right out of the box.

What you're essentially doing by picking /SD as a brute is saying "Yes, I am willing to pay through the nose for the privilege of blasting entire spawns down with shield charge." And it is awesome, but it is also expensive.

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
The Demon Farm, however, requires you to wade through 5 missions of Carnies, 1 Matla Mission, and 1 DE Mission, just to get it. Since it's one of the farms I want to pick up on my Rogue /SD Brute, I'm wondering how /SD handles the Psi from the Carnies. Will I be OK with just standard, Common IOs, or should I wait and slot up some sets first? Obviously, Sets will give me better odds, but if I can make it through the Carnies without any real issues, then I'll probably go ahead and do that, and slot IO sets later.
First: most carnie psi attacks are the 'pink' ones (mental blast and the like) so they have ranged/aoe components you'll defend against. The one without positional tags are rarer (mesmerize, dominate, blind, I dunno how many of those carnies have).

Second: turn your diff down. And use insps. I soloed a Carnie mish at 28 (before footstomp) at +1/x4/bosses on a SS/Fire with SOs (Fire has no psi resistance or def) because insps rain when you solo x3, x4... You can do -1/x4 just fine. Or -1/x1 for a cakewalk. I bet my 30 fm/sd scrapper can solo any carnie mish at 0/x4 because of the insps dropping like mad.

I know you want a /sd brute, but the demon farm on a SS/Fire would be laughably easy with 90% fire resist.

 

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First: most carnie psi attacks are the 'pink' ones (mental blast and the like) so they have ranged/aoe components you'll defend against. The one without positional tags are rarer (mesmerize, dominate, blind, I dunno how many of those carnies have).

Second: turn your diff down. And use insps. I soloed a Carnie mish at 28 (before footstomp) at +1/x4/bosses on a SS/Fire with SOs (Fire has no psi resistance or def) because insps rain when you solo x3, x4... You can do -1/x4 just fine. Or -1/x1 for a cakewalk. I bet my 30 fm/sd scrapper can solo any carnie mish at 0/x4 because of the insps dropping like mad.

I know you want a /sd brute, but the demon farm on a SS/Fire would be laughably easy with 90% fire resist.
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I thought inspirations were just to turn my tray into the prettiest rainbow :C
lol since my first toon was a Mind/Emp and with all the controls and heals I rarely died even solo, the three months I took leveling her to 50 (i9, leveling was much harder, y'know) I actually had thoughts like that, I never used insps except for the occasional BF. I took LONG to lose that habit especially since I barely play melee (except now after my 1yr break, I'm focusing on a scrapper, a brute and a stalker).