NoPhase


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Any chance we can get rid of this at the very least for PvE, If I remember right it was put in BEFORE the I13 PvP rules to 'balance' PvP.

Or would taking it out Unbalance PvE somehow?

List of Powers with a 'Phase'

Hibernate
-Blaster(Cold Mastery)
-Tanker(Ice Armor)
-Controller(Ice mastery)
-Corruptor(Leviathan Mastery)
-Dominator(Leviathan Mastery)
-Stalker(Leviathan)

Pool
-Phase Shift

as well as one or two Temp Powers.


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And why are these powers a problem for PVE??


 

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I find it a problem for a Icer haves to 'warm' up for 120Sec's to use its last 'fail safe' again in big battles(+3/+4 EB/AVs).


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Originally Posted by Nogard_T View Post
I find it a problem for an Icer to have to 'warm' up for 120 Seconds to use its last 'fail safe' again in big battles(+3/+4 EB/AVs).
Ok, I think I've deciphered what you were trying to say... and now my rebuttal.

So?

You have a problem with the way something works because it doesn't fit your ideal perspective, based on 1 power for 1 type of character(Ice users) so get rid of the whole thing in PvE, and anything like it? Overreact much?

Now I get what you're trying to say. For someone who controls ice, and has mastered the use and manipulation of it, why can't they use this power more often? Because it's a video game. There has to be balance. As you said yourself, it's a fail safe power, others might call it a panic button. It's meant as a 'last resort' type of thing, something that should only be used when there is no other way out, no other way to survive. It wouldn't be very much of a last resort use if it could be used every 3 seconds.

Now if your problem comes from that it isn't realistic for big boss battles... +3/+4 EB/AVs... then don't fight them. You can adjust your difficulty settings. But you want the challenge, right? Get over it. Either don't use the power, or make the most of it. Enjoy that you have the power when you really need it, and if you can't wait for the power to recharge, can't stand it so much that you'd rather have them remove the power from the entire PvE world because you can't seem to stay alive long enough for power that has a long recharge to actually recharge!!!! ... respec out and pretend it doesn't exist rather than punishing people who do use the power and have no problem with your concept of it.

(PS, the use of bold and italics was meant for comedic and over exaggeration/drama effect, not actually yelling/talking down to.)


 

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Im actaully confused as to what the smeg the suggestion is, and why...


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My controller hibernates every time Romulus dies. I love the power. No thank you on eliminating it.


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The "NoPhase" keeps you from phasing for 120 seconds.

Say you've got both the Controller (or tanker or whatever) "Hibernate" power as well as Phase Shift from the Concealment pool. If you use Hibernate you have to wait 120 seconds before you can use Phase Shift.

This is the complaint.

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I would think i would learn to stop posting since i can NEVER make any thing clear. That and everyone just seems to hate me.

Not to remove the Powers on the List but the [NoPhase] that keeps form working agian for 120s. 2 ways to get rid of NoPhase.

1.Make the powers on list not be affected by +Rech(on the icer its 120s). Oddly [NoPhase] wont let you [Rest] ether.

2.Make the Recharge longer by a bit(ill let the numbers people find that one out).

and @M Raid the +3/4s are when im on teams as the only tanker(sadly)*.


Being the only tanker means if someone dies they blame me(the ones who are dumb enuff to get them selfs killed one way or another), i rarely team anymore so my Diff settings never go higher then +1/2 since tanker dmg is hurtfull low any higher then +2s(for me anyways).


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It wasn't just for PvP, same as the initial timer added to phase shift wasn't just for PvP.

With the addition of temp phase powers, it became increasingly easier to get into a state of "perma-phase", which is something the devs have said they are against (at least, as far as areas where you're supposed to be in some sort of danger).


"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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If you are needing to use a phase type power in PVE more than once every 2 min something is wrong. Either the difficulty is set to high or your team makeup needs some adjustments.

The only time you would face +3 or +4 AVs/Heroes would be on the RSF or the STF unless you put the difficulty as high as it can go on purpose. Sorry but I do not see a need to make the most difficult challanges in the game easier. Either move the difficulty down or get a better team to handle the endgame TFs/SFs.


 

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Personally, I use it {sometimes} to eat the alpha on my squiddy before switching to crabform.

That's the bit that confuses me, actually - with nophase, why is the recharge on quantum flight way less than two minutes?


 

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Personally, I use it {sometimes} to eat the alpha on my squiddy before switching to crabform.

That's the bit that confuses me, actually - with nophase, why is the recharge on quantum flight way less than two minutes?

well the recharge on Qflight still helps since while your not phased you can still fly with it

i had to respec my ice tank because i added a second slot to hibernate before i realized 2 recharge was useless since i still couldnt use it anyway (was a pain to respec for the sake of salvageing one slot i almost left it there) with 1 recharge its still up in times i need it