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about people getting epic ATs at level 20?
5 years ago I devoted my time completely to getting to level 50, unlocked epic AT, and felt like I'd earned it.
I haven't played CoH in about 5 months or so, and looking on the website to find out that something like epic ATs at level 20 is kind of upsetting.
I mean, really. If you're going to buy a subscription to an online game, you should expect that you're gonna have to play in order to achieve certain things. I was upset to find out the amount of new players getting to level 50 in two days when the Mission Architect came out, when I'd spent so much time getting to that level by actually playing the game. And now, people are being basically spoonfed the highlights of devoting your time to the game.
I don't wanna sound like I'm overreacting, and I don't want to sound too attached to the game. But City of Heroes used to be a lot better. I KNOW I'm not the only one complaining about the frequent issues coming out to keep the game interesting.


 

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Originally Posted by Teruko View Post
about people getting epic ATs at level 20?
5 years ago I devoted my time completely to getting to level 50, unlocked epic AT, and felt like I'd earned it.
I haven't played CoH in about 5 months or so, and looking on the website to find out that something like epic ATs at level 20 is kind of upsetting.
I mean, really. If you're going to buy a subscription to an online game, you should expect that you're gonna have to play in order to achieve certain things. I was upset to find out the amount of new players getting to level 50 in two days when the Mission Architect came out, when I'd spent so much time getting to that level by actually playing the game. And now, people are being basically spoonfed the highlights of devoting your time to the game.
I don't wanna sound like I'm overreacting, and I don't want to sound too attached to the game. But City of Heroes used to be a lot better. I KNOW I'm not the only one complaining about the frequent issues coming out to keep the game interesting.
You stopped playing when it was better???


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You stopped playing when it was better???
Heh, I love it. Nice catch.

It was better before, and I quit. Now that I see the changes are coming, I double quit.

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As for myself, I honestly felt like they were getting something that I earned. I felt annoyed. Then, I realized that they were getting to experience content they may not see otherwise. And I felt happy for them.

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Out of curiosity, OP, did you have ATs for both sides?


 

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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay View Post
As for myself, I honestly felt like they were getting something that I earned. I felt annoyed. Then, I realized that they were getting to experience content they may not see otherwise. And I felt happy for them.
After you'd trashed your room in a frenzied rage?


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After you'd trashed your room in a frenzied rage?
Naturally.


 

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
There'll be new unlockable stuff for 50s in GR
I loathe unlockable stuff.

But I love (in anticipation of course) Going Rogue.


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Naturally.
Next time have fries before you trash stuff. I find they are a great mellower.


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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
I loathe unlockable stuff.
But endgame content wouldn't be endgame content if you could access it at level 5


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I have 50's on both sides of CoX.

I thoroughly approve of more players having access to more options and applaud moving access down to 20.

I do not index my pleasure in my own accomplishments by how hard others have to work to get the same thing, or how exclusive my access to rewards is.


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But endgame content wouldn't be endgame content if you could access it at level 5
We don't have endgame content but I guess I could be more clear. I don't like the following to be unlockable:
ATs
Costume pieces

I also don't want a TF/SF to be required to unlock anything ever. I am okay with something of non-cosmetic use being unlockable by a TF/SF as long as it can also be unlocked by another means.


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Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
We don't have endgame content but I guess I could be more clear. I don't like the following to be unlockable:
ATs
Costume pieces

I also don't want a TF/SF to be required to unlock anything ever. I am okay with something of non-cosmetic use being unlockable by a TF/SF as long as it can also be unlocked by another means.
What about normal arcs used to unlock things? Like, say, Cimerora?


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What about normal arcs used to unlock things? Like, say, Cimerora?
As long as it can be soloed, I am okay with it. I've been on too many TFs that fall apart because people start leaving and it is very sad.


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That's ok then - because I have a feeling access to Praetoria might need an arc to be completed first
You mean for existing characters, right? Because I recall they said we could start all ATs (not Khelds and VEATs though) in Praetoria but at level 20 we have to split.

I can't wait for July.


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Originally Posted by Teruko View Post
about people getting epic ATs at level 20?
Think 30 would be better, but I have no problem with it being lowered otherwise.

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5 years ago I devoted my time completely to getting to level 50, unlocked epic AT, and felt like I'd earned it. (etc.)
Unfortunately, some didn't feel that way. Me, seeing a Kheld in issue 3 while I was in the Hollows (came out of a misison door, switched to Nova and flew off) made me want one, and was one of many goals that got me to finish that character. (Elec/elec blaster.)

Am I angry/jealous/feeling gypped/think it's a "slap in the face"/etc? Nope. Not in the least. Someone else getting theirs at 20 doesn't diminish the 13 issues/4 1/2+ years I've had to play with my Khelds.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Think 30 would be better, but I have no problem with it being lowered otherwise.
I'm pretty sure ilevel 20 is tied in with GR in some way, possibly for future Praetorian EATs.


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There'll be new unlockable stuff for 50s in GR
Who told you that? Are you posting just to post or do you have some FACTS to back up your guessing?


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Think 30 would be better, but I have no problem with it being lowered otherwise.
I also think Level 30 would be better. It's not as easy as 20 and not as absurdly time consuming as 50.


 

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30 would be nice... or 32 (thats a magical number).

But I still wish there was an Epic Epic AT... that you unlocked when you get one of each epic to 50...

yep...

One PB, one WS, one Soldier and One Widow...


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As MB and Scythus have said, 30 would've been better. I actually would've like it to be 35 to fall inline with Cimerora, RWZ Vanguard Merits, and that it adds just a touch of "let's work to a goal."


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Originally Posted by Teruko View Post
I KNOW I'm not the only one complaining about the frequent issues coming out to keep the game interesting.
Ok, I REALLY cannot figure out what you mean here. You seem to be saying that you dislike new issues coming out because they contain new stuff to make the game interesting. I'm trying to wrap my head around how that makes any kind of sense.

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Who told you that? Are you posting just to post or do you have some FACTS to back up your guessing?
It's Golden Girl, what do you think?


 

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As MB and Scythus have said, 30 would've been better. I actually would've like it to be 35 to fall inline with Cimerora, RWZ Vanguard Merits, and that it adds just a touch of "let's work to a goal."
You exit Praetoria at level 20 - possible Praetorian EATs would unlock once you went to Primal Earth - I think there's a reason they made it 20 and not 30


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You exit Praetoria at level 20 - possible Praetorian EATs would unlock once you went to Primal Earth - I think there's a reason they made it 20 and not 30
They've said that there are no new EATs for Going Rogue.


 

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What do I think about it?

First of all, I think about the same thing I have thought of in the past 2 dozen threads on roughly the same topic.

Secondly, that thought is "Hurray! My altoholism is being rewarded!" It took me almost three years to get a single alt to 50 heroside. I'm still 4 tough levels away from that point villainside (on a character I started on CoV pre-start weekend, no less).

Yeah, some folks got characters to 50 multiple times while I was playing around with my variety of characters. But I kinda like to think that I learned the game as well as they did (if not better since I was playing a Blaster and a Tanker and a Controller and a Scrapper and a Defender in multiple iterations of each, which is somewhat helpful since a Kheld can fill so many different roles on a team).

So, I'm really pretty happy about their decision all in all.


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