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Which zones in the game do not have instanced versions available for missions? I know Galaxy City doesn't and I don't think Independence Port does either. I could also argue Sewer Network/Abandoned Sewer Network but we have enough sewer maps that it's passable.


 

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Originally Posted by Zamuel View Post
Which zones in the game do not have instanced versions available for missions? I know Galaxy City doesn't and I don't think Independence Port does either. I could also argue Sewer Network/Abandoned Sewer Network but we have enough sewer maps that it's passable.
I'm assuming you mean sections of the zone in outdoor maps?

Or parts of the zone like in safeguard and mayhem missions?

If that's the case, the only ones I know of that don't are Striga Isle, Dark Astoria, The Hollows, Boomtown, Eden, and Crey's Folly.


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The Dreck map is an instance of Boomtown

Edit: I don't think Bloody Bay has an instanced version either


 

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The Abyss is instanced in the Hamidon mission of the LGTF, but I don't think The Hive has an instanced version


 

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Dark Astoria's Moth Cemetery is actually instanced. I think a section of Eden is too.
yeah - the tricky part of Dark Astoria being instanced is they don't include the fog.

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The Dreck map is an instance of Boomtown

Edit: I don't think Bloody Bay has an instanced version either
Eh, I don't count the dreck map. Boomtown has no water


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yeah - the tricky part of Dark Astoria being instanced is they don't include the fog.


Eh, I don't count the dreck map. Boomtown has no water
Honestly I wouldn't count either of them. No fog means no DA (and I could be wrong, but the layouts in those maps don't quite match), and same thing with the flooded "Boomtown" stuff.


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yeah - the tricky part of Dark Astoria being instanced is they don't include the fog.


Eh, I don't count the dreck map. Boomtown has no water
There's a mission on either BSF or DrK that also has an instanced version of Boomtown


 

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Honestly I wouldn't count either of them. No fog means no DA (and I could be wrong, but the layouts in those maps don't quite match), and same thing with the flooded "Boomtown" stuff.
The cemetery is the same 99% certain. The fog really does change the atmosphere, though.


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The second mission of the Mender Silos hero arc is an instance of Striga Isle.


 

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Eden is instanced in Vernon Von Grun's arc
I don't think the Hollows and CF are instanced anywhere though


 

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Boomtown has a few mission maps, but I think they're all villainside.
There's a Boomtown map used in the Kahn TF Blueside.


 

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Going back to the OP, IP most certainly is instanced as it has both a Mayhem and Safeguard.



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The map where you fight the Jade Spider is Siren's Call.

I think all the industrial maps, like the factory building where you fight Siege up at the top, or the mish Ghost Falcon gives you, are all Crey's Folly, or at least look like they'd be in there.


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The map where you fight the Jade Spider is Siren's Call.
And for completeness sake, the 2nd mission of the RSF is an instance of Warburg

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I think all the industrial maps, like the factory building where you fight Siege up at the top, or the mish Ghost Falcon gives you, are all Crey's Folly, or at least look like they'd be in there.
Hmm good point, always wondered about those


 

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So we've established then that The Hollows seems to be the only zone in the game that is not instanced? I don't recall seeing a Galaxy City instance anywhere either......unless Outbreak takes place there, hard to tell really.

The mission where you have to track down Nocturne is an instance of Faultline, so that covers that one. Croatoa has instanced versions of itself all through the arcs in there.

People brought up all kinds of stuff I forgot about on my original list.


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And from what I can tell, Boomtown is used in more than Dreck. They use part of it for the Battle Maiden map, and other missions use that map, too.
I believe the Werewolf world accessed through the Portal system is a section of Boomtown, though I haven't spent enough time in Boomtown to figure out which part.


 

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I believe the Werewolf world accessed through the Portal system is a section of Boomtown, though I haven't spent enough time in Boomtown to figure out which part.
It's the Southeast section partially including the location for the Phalanxer badge.


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The map where you fight the Jade Spider is Siren's Call.

I think all the industrial maps, like the factory building where you fight Siege up at the top, or the mish Ghost Falcon gives you, are all Crey's Folly, or at least look like they'd be in there.
Remember, not every outdoor map has to be in an existing zone. They're very similar to some parts of real zones, in style, but they don't exist in the open world.

The one's you mentioned aren't in Crey's Folly, and the cemeteries mentioned above aren't parts of the real Moth Cemetery.

Look at your city map, there's lots of city areas in Paragon that aren't covered in the zones we have.


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Remember, not every outdoor map has to be in an existing zone.
Cimerora is a strange one. The missions of the ITF take place in Cimerora, and exist in the real version, but they are areas outside of the War Walls that you can't get to (or not supposed to be able to anyway).

That said, the BM map is not really the same as the Live Boomtown either. The NE corner of Boomtown looks similar, but there are a few buildings re-arranged... and the train track is even more destroyed than it is inside the mission.

Dreck's map has many inconsistencies with the real Boomtown as well (besides the water). It's easy to find the area of Boomtown where the mission starts, but if you go to the place where the mission goes into the water and look to the north, you can see there would be no possible place for the north side of that mission to meet up with the water. Everything within a reasonable distance is even lower and would just be underwater.

Also, the Siren's Call map on the Jade Spider TF is slightly different too (barely). There is a tree near the Villain base that says "You just killed a butterfly" if you click on it. That doesn't exist in the Live version of Siren's Call. lol


 

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I think all the industrial maps, like the factory building where you fight Siege up at the top, or the mish Ghost Falcon gives you, are all Crey's Folly, or at least look like they'd be in there.
If anything, most of the industrial maps would most likely be Terra Volta, which incidentally otherwise has no instances if you don't count those.

Also, on the subject of remixed maps, one of the "Neighborhood" maps (it's the one that's used several times during the Blue/Silver Clockwork missions), is very clearly Galaxy City with a bunch of the buildings swapped out, the biggest tell is the large, gray "shelf" that's right behind the entrance point.


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So we've established then that The Hollows seems to be the only zone in the game that is not instanced? I don't recall seeing a Galaxy City instance anywhere either......unless Outbreak takes place there, hard to tell really.
Just made a new character to check and Outbreak is an undisclosed area west of Talos. So unless it's considered part of the Hollows, Galaxy City and the Hollows seem to be the only zones without instances.