What are the chances we will get more than just 2 new powersets in GR?
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Posted on: 2010-02-22 15:41 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I really hope this is the case. In the interview here: http://www.massiveonlinegamer.com/ne...at-going-rogue
War Witch says:
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Which is new information. | Because he’s so powerful, you won’t be running into Tyrant until later on in your career. He is part of the endgame plan that Matt “Positron” Miller has in the works and it all ties into Praetoria. |
Also, and perhaps more relevant;
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Q: Can we expect to see new character costumes and powers in Going Rogue? Absolutely. You already know about Demon Summoning and Dual Pistols, which are available before the expansion hits for those who pre-purchase it, but we’ve got some other tricks up our sleeves, and I think players will be pleased with the new power sets. As for costumes, you may already know about the Clockwork costume pieces, but there are others coming, too, not all necessarily Praetorian in theme. |
Electric control was mentioned at one point as something that was supposed to be in game sometime. Not sure if that will hit before or after GR. I'm guessing that it will be afterwards.
I wonder if this quote...
"With Issue 17 and Going Rogue, we’ve upgraded our look and the way we build zones (most evident in Praetoria)."
...implies that there's a new zone in I17?
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Well we know I17 will have new content so a new zone isn't impossible.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I wonder if this quote...
"With Issue 17 and Going Rogue, we’ve upgraded our look and the way we build zones (most evident in Praetoria)." ...implies that there's a new zone in I17? |
Also, I reckon we'll get another round of powerset proliferation not to long after GR (probably I18 or I19).
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Edit: In regards to that article that was linked.
I'm really not expecting more than two powersets, personally. Nor am I expecting a new zone in issue seventeen. I can see them bundling electrical control if it gets sorted in time, although I don't think it'd be GR-exclusive.
That isn't to say I'm disappointed. Nor would I at all mind being pleasantly suprised. I'm really terribly excited for both issue seventeen and Going Rogue, whether we get only what we've been told, or we get a small country of awesome extra.
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I'm very optimistic.
That interview is great, btw. War Witch is already off to a great start in her new role - but if you've been around the game for 5 or so years like I have, then you already knew she would be. She really is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet or have the pleasure to work with - we're still very lucky to her on CoH after all this time.
And she's a good writer to boot (yes, I read the book. Quite enjoyed it too).
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and so you think we will get more powersets than just the 2 mentioned?
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Originally Posted by Rubberlad
I'm very optimistic.
That interview is great, btw. War Witch is already off to a great start in her new role - but if you've been around the game for 5 or so years like I have, then you already knew she would be. She really is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet or have the pleasure to work with - we're still very lucky to her on CoH after all this time. And she's a good writer to boot (yes, I read the book. Quite enjoyed it too). |
All I know is that I would actually be SATISFIED if Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning were the ONLY new Power Sets. From what I've seen, they're going to more AWESOME than what we got from COV. Sometimes quality > quantity, right?
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Nope. Powersets just take too long to design.|
Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
and so you think we will get more powersets than just the 2 mentioned?
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We *might* get more proliferation than just Electricity Control. Proliferation is relatively easier than new Sets. And since GR's release date was moved back to make room for I17, there *might* be more proliferation.
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Whether she is nice or not, I did not think so previously, but that interview hints at the possibility.|
Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
and so you think we will get more powersets than just the 2 mentioned?
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No promises, no declarations, but an interesting hint.
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And yet they managed four powersets in Issue 5, which was delivered with no extra fee and only two months before CoV shipped. So you're suggesting with a larger and more experienced team they are only capable of doing less?
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Nope. Powersets just take too long to design.
We *might* get more proliferation than just Electricity Control. Proliferation is relatively easier than new Sets. And since GR's release date was moved back to make room for I17, there *might* be more proliferation. |
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Well, consider that they are also working on a lot of new content for I17/Going Rogue. This almost certainly includes quite a few new NPCs (at the very least expect the Praetorian factions to get fleshed out) which in turn requires effort from Castle's team and BaB's team limiting the resources that they can bring to designing new player powersets.
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Originally Posted by Creole Ned
And yet they managed four powersets in Issue 5, which was delivered with no extra fee and only two months before CoV shipped. So you're suggesting with a larger and more experienced team they are only capable of doing less?
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I predict 2 entirely new ATs yep thats right not just power sets but 2 whole new classes of characters.
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COV powersets were awesome and plentiful.
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Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
All I know is that I would actually be SATISFIED if Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning were the ONLY new Power Sets. From what I've seen, they're going to more AWESOME than what we got from COV. Sometimes quality > quantity, right?
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So, are you predicting new EATs or ATs that combine standard powersets in new and interesting ways? Also, while you're at it any suggestions on lottery numbers?
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
I predict 2 entirely new ATs yep thats right not just power sets but 2 whole new classes of characters.
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But they did the same thing for CoV and still managed four new powersets before it released.|
Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Well, consider that they are also working on a lot of new content for I17/Going Rogue. This almost certainly includes quite a few new NPCs (at the very least expect the Praetorian factions to get fleshed out) which in turn requires effort from Castle's team and BaB's team limiting the resources that they can bring to designing new player powersets.
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You really think they will only include two powersets in a retail expansion (and make them available early if you pre-purchase, even) when they've offered more in a regular non-retail update?
Man, expectations have certainly been lowered. I guess that works to their advatnage if they deliver 'more' than what most are expecting.
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Actually yes I expect GR to be limited to the 2 announced powersets. I would not be surprised if they release additional powersets around the same time (say I18 or I19) but I don't think they want to include to many powersets that are exclusive to the expansion. Sure GR included a larger number of new powersets but they were restricted to the villain ATs. I've seen a number of complaints about the fact that Demons and DP are GR exclusive and I doubt they want to make that worse. When it comes down to it GR is about content not powersets and I suspect the devs will keep it that way.
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Originally Posted by Creole Ned
But they did the same thing for CoV and still managed four new powersets before it released.
You really think they will only include two powersets in a retail expansion (and make them available early if you pre-purchase, even) when they've offered more in a regular non-retail update? Man, expectations have certainly been lowered. I guess that works to their advatnage if they deliver 'more' than what most are expecting. |
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Don't forget that CoV was a stand-alone game, so it really needed the same number of ATs and power sets as CoH.|
Originally Posted by Creole Ned
But they did the same thing for CoV and still managed four new powersets before it released.
You really think they will only include two powersets in a retail expansion (and make them available early if you pre-purchase, even) when they've offered more in a regular non-retail update? Man, expectations have certainly been lowered. I guess that works to their advatnage if they deliver 'more' than what most are expecting. |
GR isn't a stand-alone game, so it doesn't need the same variety of ATs and power sets as CoV did.
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I never said it did. And that still skips past the fact that they released four powersets just prior to CoV shipping.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Don't forget that CoV was a stand-alone game, so it really needed the same number of ATs and power sets as CoH.
GR isn't a stand-alone game, so it doesn't need the same variety of ATs and power sets as CoV did. |
And regarding a retail expansion gating the community, what would be worse: not having access to a powerset or not being able to team with anyone going to Shiny New Expansion-only Zone? I would tend to think the latter would be a lot more limiting but that's just me.
What do you think? Do you think the first expansion since CoV will really only have 2 powersets in it? Or do you think they are planning to *WOW* us with bunches of new powersets as time goes on here?