Ice Control... how to approach a mob?

I'm in the planning stages of a new ice dominator, but I had a quick question to ask of people who have played one. Since I usually lead pugs, I find it helpful with a pug team to be the person who isn't afraid to eat the alpha.

For my plant dom, when I approach a mob, I can either throw seeds, vines, or even a spore burst to mitigate the alpha strike. With ice control, what are my options? Glacier seems like a bad candidate for an opening move since it's a pbaoe, same applies to artic air. Does anyone have any advice for this, or am I just not going to be able to be the point of the sword?

Ice Slick around a corner has always worked for me. Alternatively I guess if you have superspeed you can just run into the middle and use Glacier alongside Arctic Air.

Ice Control doesn't really have many options for approaching when compared to other sets. I'd say the only one that has it worse is Gravity Control.

D'oh, totally forgot about Ice slick. I guess that should be suitable enough.
Does the aoe immob prevent ice slick from working?
Looking at mids, it adds knockback and knockup protection. As far as mid's is concerned, is KD a derivative of those?

Knockdown is just knockback that has a magnitude less than 0.75 (I think) so Frostbite will stop it from working. Besides, the AoE immobilises are pretty much useless on Dominators because they draw unwanted aggro and they don't actually serve any purpose for damage mitigation. Not to mention that some, such as Frostbite, do next to no damage.

As far as Dominators are concerned Ice Control has five, maybe six, powers that are worth taking in my opinion.

I usually drop an Ice slick and jump in with Arctic air running. To prevent the mobs from getting out of the AA zone I also add Frostbite - that prevents knockdown, too, but if you have your AA well slotted for Confuse duration, that doesn't matter too much. You may also throw in a Shiver before jumping in if you like.

Or you can alternate Ice Slick with AA+Frostbite with a Shiver thrown in. However, the latter doesn't prevent the alpha.

I open with Ice slick. If you have 12-15% ranged defense from set bonuses that's usually enough to mitigate the damage from the few that gets shots off if there isn't a convenient corner.

Once they've started flopping I follow up with shiver and then move into melee range and let Arctic Air take hold.

Once Artic Air has taken hold I'll follow up with Frostbite. I then attack and throw in Shiver and Frostbite when ever they are recharged to keep stuff at the -rech cap.

This works pretty well with a melee oriented secondary like /Earth.

It' may not work the best for PUGs though since it will take a good 7 seconds for your control of the spawn to develop. Some of the team will invariably jump in as soon as ice slick is down.

Yeah, Dimension Shift allows you to point and laugh at the enemies' alpha, you just can't kill with it. Don't get me wrong, DS needs some tweaking but I think some of its hate isn't warranted.

1. Flash Freeze (It has good range)

2. Run in with Arctic Air or use Shiver (Won't wake the mobs)

3. Ice Slick

Steps 2 and 3 are interchangeable.

True, sleeps don't last for squat on most teams, especially PuGs, but that's why you run ahead to the next mob while everyone else is finishing off the remnants of the last one

Sounds like I need to add Artic Air to my ice/ice dom. I skipped it but now I regret it after reading how useful it is for an opening attack.

Damn, am I the only one that loves and opens with glacier?? Assuming you have decent confuse slotted in Arctic Air, I like to:

1. Power Boost + Glacier

2. Single target hold on the boss (if there is one and you don't have domination up)

3. Take down a lieutenant or two if you have good damage

4. Glacier should be about to drop, so lay down the ice slick and start working on the boss

This usually works pretty damn well for my ice/ice dom Hope this helps!

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whats the best secondary for an ice dom if u are focusing on putting down large mobs quickly

For soloing, one of the best openers for Ice Control is to hide behind a corner and open with Ice Slick. This works well because the enemy's only option is to run toward you, and Ice Slick has a massive slow debuff. Wait for the enemy to fall, pop out from the corner and throw Shiver at the group. Then charge them and surround them with Arctic Air.

I have personally never liked Ice Control's sleep power. It breaks even if the enemy falls on your Ice Slick.

My main toon in this game is an ice ice dom and been playing him for about 2yrs now. How I have always approached a mob is I use ice slick 1st then once I see that they are falling I approach the mob with Arctic Air and follow if up with glacier. Although now I am a little reckless considering I have 4 purple sets and all accolades lol!!!!