no badges for the solo hero/villian?


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i noticed that you get badges for nearly everything you do in the game, cept for solo efforts. i know team-play is encouraged but there are some players who enjoy doing things "lone wolf" <--there's an idea --> sometimes. i honestly cannot believe there isnt one or a few already, considering you get AE badges, which is like getting rewarded for being a good PLer or doorsitting. i have recently returned to this game after about 4 years of WoW. with my brute i went from 8 to 26 soloing paper missions to get the badges needed for the "force of nature" accolade...which is alot of paper missions...i got it tho i know a few other players out there enjoy solo play, some ppl even solo TFs and AVs...FFS you even get badges for NOT playing. so why not a badge or two for the hero who works alone?


 

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Not for nothing, but most of the badges are already from "solo efforts". From all the exploration and history badges, to the market and invention badges... if badges is your game, solo is your game. And while defeat badges, mission badges, and Ouro stuff can all be done as a team, it's often done solo as well.

In what way would you measure a badge for somebody being solo? Wouldn't existing characters already be exempt?

PS - If you are solo, who are you going to show your badge to?


 

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Just the opposite. The ONLY badges that need a team are the healing, TF/SF and related Master badges. Everything else can be done solo.


 

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Originally Posted by Hard Kisses View Post
i noticed that you get badges for nearly everything you do in the game, cept for solo efforts.
In fact, the vast majority of badges have no solo/team bias. You can do them either way, depending on your personal preference.


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i honestly cannot believe there isnt one or a few already, considering you get AE badges, which is like getting rewarded for being a good PLer or doorsitting.
Perhaps you or the people you play with PL and/or doorsit. I don't. And yet I somehow managed to get all the AE badges. Imagine that.


There aren't a lot of badges that require teaming. And I would say there are only 7 that directly reference teaming - the six mentoring badges and the AE badge that specifically is for a full team effort. What would you suggest for a 'soloers badge'? Spend X hours *NOT* on a team? Doesn't that seem silly?


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Just the opposite. The ONLY badges that need a team are the healing, TF/SF and related Master badges. Everything else can be done solo.
Actually, you don't need to be on a team to get the healing badges.
Also, don't forget, there are six badges for mentoring.


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Just the opposite. The ONLY badges that need a team are the healing, TF/SF and related Master badges. Everything else can be done solo.
The OP presumably is asking why there are no badges _specifically_ for solo play, in the way that the TF badges and "Among Friends" and the PvP pentad badges (are there any?) are specific to team play.

It's not a bad idea. For example, a badge for defeating your first EB solo would be a nice one to have.


 

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The OP presumably is asking why there are no badges _specifically_ for solo play, in the way that the TF badges and "Among Friends" and the PvP pentad badges (are there any?) are specific to team play.

It's not a bad idea. For example, a badge for defeating your first EB solo would be a nice one to have.
yea something like that. tbh, tho now that i read all the responses to my suggestion i kinda feel like i didnt see all the angles to it. true, most badges are achieved thru solo play, i was thinking on more of a concept. the solo hero/villain does this or that...its not a completely alien idea. lots of comic book heroes/villains often do their thing solo. As for AE im not saying everyone is a doorsitter, but lets face it alot of people do. idk, maybe im just crazy and need to lay off the pot :P it IS kind of discouraging when all u see in Broadcast is "lfAEfarm"...maybe i need to get more channels or something.


 

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i honestly cannot believe there isnt one or a few already, considering you get AE badges, which is like getting rewarded for being a good PLer or doorsitting. i have recently returned to this game after about 4 years of WoW.
I'll tell you what, people will never be happy no matter what...
When the AE badges came out people complained that you have to pretty much farm AE mishes to get some of these, so what did the devs do? Made it easier and people still complain as for the solo badge thing... there are more solo badges than team by far
how big of a team do you need to get day job badges?


Although, I would like to see a badges for pling and farming


Farming Badges:

Hamidon Farmer: Complete 100 Hami Raids for this badge
"Nice job, even the mitos know you by your first name"

Rikti Farmer: Complete 100 Mothership Raids for this badge
"Ok we get it! leave our mothership alone!!!"

Task Force Farmer: Complete 100 tf's for this badge
"Look, I got a merit badge and I'm not even in the Boyscouts!!"

Afk Master: Spend 100 hours being afk in an AE mission
"while you were away, we got you a little something"


PL Badges"

Front of the line: Earn this badge by getting to level 20 in 1 hour
"it's not what you know, it's who you know"

Speeding ticket: Earn this badge by getting to level 30 in 2 hours
"I play AE for the amazing content, No I really do!! lol"

Fast Track: Earn this badge for getting to level 50 in 3 hours
"Congrats you found an exploit and got this badge and got your account banned NICE!"


There is good news.... if you are not happy with this game you can always go back to wow, in fact didn't wow start doing badges as well?


LEEROY JENKINS!!!!


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come on now I earned that doorsitting badge fair and square.

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I'll tell you what, people will never be happy no matter what...
When the AE badges came out people complained that you have to pretty much farm AE mishes to get some of these, so what did the devs do? Made it easier and people still complain as for the solo badge thing... there are more solo badges than team by far
how big of a team do you need to get day job badges?


Although, I would like to see a badges for pling and farming


Farming Badges:

Hamidon Farmer: Complete 100 Hami Raids for this badge
"Nice job, even the mitos know you by your first name"

Rikti Farmer: Complete 100 Mothership Raids for this badge
"Ok we get it! leave our mothership alone!!!"

Task Force Farmer: Complete 100 tf's for this badge
"Look, I got a merit badge and I'm not even in the Boyscouts!!"

Afk Master: Spend 100 hours being afk in an AE mission
"while you were away, we got you a little something"


PL Badges"

Front of the line: Earn this badge by getting to level 20 in 1 hour
"it's not what you know, it's who you know"

Speeding ticket: Earn this badge by getting to level 30 in 2 hours
"I play AE for the amazing content, No I really do!! lol"

Fast Track: Earn this badge for getting to level 50 in 3 hours
"Congrats you found an exploit and got this badge and got your account banned NICE!"


There is good news.... if you are not happy with this game you can always go back to wow, in fact didn't wow start doing badges as well?


LEEROY JENKINS!!!!
very funny, however u miss my point. i could give two ***** if you'd rather PL, farm retarded sammie AE missions, or exploit exploits w/e its your time not mine. idc about AE badges, i never said i did. i SAID was you CAN earn these badges by doing little more than nothing. hell, i already have a few---i AEed my way to lvl8 (LOL) soloing created missions.

how about i make it easier for u to understand: It would be nice to get badges SOLELY based upon the idea of SOLOing aspects of the game. its an activity that almost every published comic hero/villain has spent considerable time doing in the name of saving the day or ruining it. I am truly sorry tho, if your imagination has run dry and you cannot wrap your confused little mind around this well-worn but currently ignored concept of the game.


 

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Rikti Farmer: Complete 100 Mothership Raids for this badge
"Ok we get it! leave our mothership alone!!!"
That's the old 25 bomb badge, really.



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I agree, any reason for a new shiny badge is a good one. They have exemplaring/sidekicking badges, so why not?


 

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I am truly sorry tho, if your imagination has run dry and you cannot wrap your confused little mind around this well-worn but currently ignored concept of the game.
Yeah, baby! Third post and we're getting into some hardcore snark!


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I would consider most ( if not all ) the Oroboros badges solo, because good luck trying to get a team to do about 30-40 mission arc runs lol.


 

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I would say that depends on what character you're trying to get the badges on. Back when the Ouro badges were introduced, I duoed a great many of them because a friend with a mind/emp found it difficult to complete them with the serious gimp settings. Conveniently, my badge toon is a /regen scrapper.


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Originally Posted by Hard Kisses View Post
yea something like that. tbh, tho now that i read all the responses to my su it IS kind of discouraging when all u see in Broadcast is "lfAEfarm"...maybe i need to get more channels or something.
or maybe you need to change servers.

I haven't seen one of those in a long time, but I don't hang out in Atlas on Freedom either.


 

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I would say that depends on what character you're trying to get the badges on. Back when the Ouro badges were introduced, I duoed a great many of them because a friend with a mind/emp found it difficult to complete them with the serious gimp settings.
It's a lot easier now you can -1 the enemies, but regardless - sure, people mostly do them solo, but that's not the same as badges that can only be soloed.

Indeed, if anyone happened to be wanting the full set at the same time I did, I'd much rather do them with a duo. Less soul-destroying.


 

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OP, don't listen to the haters. A lot of the people on this board are your typical fanbois who cannot hear ANYTHING that changes THEIR idea of this game. I think it's a great idea. I especially like the idea of a badge for solo'ing EB's and so forth. Certainly one for those brave folks who solo AV's/GM's. That is truly worthy of a badge.

Ignore the (game destroying) fanboi sycophants and keep posting good ideas.


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OP, don't listen to the haters. A lot of the people on this board are your typical fanbois who cannot hear ANYTHING that changes THEIR idea of this game. I think it's a great idea. I especially like the idea of a badge for solo'ing EB's and so forth. Certainly one for those brave folks who solo AV's/GM's. That is truly worthy of a badge.

Ignore the (game destroying) fanboi sycophants and keep posting good ideas.
... I can't tell if this post is serious. It's either hypocritically demented or satirically brilliant.


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... I can't tell if this post is serious. It's either hypocritically demented or satirically brilliant.
Orrrrrr (now stay with me here) It's a post from a guy who truly thinks some new badges that recognize people doing things in game solo, that are normaly done on teams is a good thing AND (this is where it gets tricky) HATES with every fiber of his being what fanboys do to good games.

Personally, Im going with the third option. But YMMV. :O


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I spend a good deal of my time in the game soloing. Heck, I probably spend most of my time soloing. But there's just no real reason to add badges to say, "Hey, I did this solo."

Every character needs to have the ability to get any badge. A Claws/Regen Scrapper is going to have no problems taking down an EB solo, while an Empathy/Energy Defender is probably not going to be able to overcome their regen, period. And a "you spent 50 hours running solo" badge is just pointless fluff at this point, because there's so little challenge to it that it's unnecessary (kind of like how the SKing badges are all pointless now with Issue 16's Super Sidekicking--if you're a team leader, you rack up all the badges crazy fast, because it counts EVERYBODY in your team as a sidekick individually). It would also be crazy easy to farm; you'd earn credit for it every time you logged in to check the markets or just to chat with friends, as long as you weren't on a team.

To recap: Solo challenge badges are inaccessible to too many builds, and "running solo" badges are just plain pointless because you don't have to do anything to earn them.

Remember, this is a Massively Multiplayer Online game. If you want to be rewarded specifically for solo play, I suggest you check out one of the hundreds of decent single-player games released over the last 25 years.


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ok ok, look. getting a badge for spending 50 or w/e hours solo online isnt rlly what i had in mind, that would be as stupid as getting badges for NOT playing a toon, correct? but wait! you get dayjob badges doing that! why???? because heroes/villains have alter-egos...yet another concept well-known and recognized in CoH/CoV. Badges CAN be designed around solo play, and if implemented, hardcore badgers of any AT will find a way to get them. remember back when heroes used to get villians to confuse them into killing longbow in siren's call when CoV was new? and when non-support ATs w/o a heal other power take the medicine pool just to get the healing badges?

awarding solo badges would benefit the game, give players something else to work towards, none of which should be as simple as getting a badge for staying logged ingame for X amount of hours/days. awarding a badge for defeating an EB is one good idea, yet another avenue for solo badges could be to utilize those now-defunct information thingies and bringing back street-sweeping. something as simple as picking a zone and going at the mobs,, measure in defeats that stop measuring as soon as you team. to solve the problem of high-lvls ****** low-lvl zones cap them off at a lvl appropriate to the zone in which they are working. each zone can give a badge, eventually leading up to accolade maybe. hell, you could design whole story arcs for solo adventure. the possibilities are there, they can be controlled, and eventually players that are willing to put forth effort, and effort it would take b/c you wouldnt be able to farm them in teams. its all already there, it could be easily done. all it takes is story now, and everyone is happy because we get more badges to grind for. this also benefits the low-pop servers as it gives players something to do while LFT.

since when do ppl NOT want more badges? and if you don't then don't bother doing the work. i think the only reason anyone would shoot down an opportunity to earn more badges is because the actual time and effort a player would have to put forth to get them. just an idea tho, and one that adds to the atmosphere of the game AND your badge count.


 

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I spend a good deal of my time in the game soloing. Heck, I probably spend most of my time soloing. But there's just no real reason to add badges to say, "Hey, I did this solo."

Every character needs to have the ability to get any badge. A Claws/Regen Scrapper is going to have no problems taking down an EB solo, while an Empathy/Energy Defender is probably not going to be able to overcome their regen, period. And a "you spent 50 hours running solo" badge is just pointless fluff at this point, because there's so little challenge to it that it's unnecessary (kind of like how the SKing badges are all pointless now with Issue 16's Super Sidekicking--if you're a team leader, you rack up all the badges crazy fast, because it counts EVERYBODY in your team as a sidekick individually). It would also be crazy easy to farm; you'd earn credit for it every time you logged in to check the markets or just to chat with friends, as long as you weren't on a team.

To recap: Solo challenge badges are inaccessible to too many builds, and "running solo" badges are just plain pointless because you don't have to do anything to earn them.

Remember, this is a Massively Multiplayer Online game. If you want to be rewarded specifically for solo play, I suggest you check out one of the hundreds of decent single-player games released over the last 25 years.
I would totally agree with you if it were not for one thing, Healing badges. There is no "decent" (everyone please note the "decent" so you dont rip off on a tangent and look silly) way for my Dark/Dark Scrapper to get them. My options are to take aid other, and NOT do what I was designed to do (i.e. "scrap") to get the badge, OR go the Longbow Gladiator route and then it is not even ME doing it, it is an NPC.

Based on those I see no reason NOT to give a badge for soloing in this game. Specificly a badge for doing things solo that most would consider, generally speaking, a team thing. And Hard Kisses has suggested, I think, some very good ones.

And this is above and beyond the obvious relation (that was already stated) to heros/villains in comics.


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OP, don't listen to the haters. A lot of the people on this board are your typical fanbois who cannot hear ANYTHING that changes THEIR idea of this game. I think it's a great idea. I especially like the idea of a badge for solo'ing EB's and so forth. Certainly one for those brave folks who solo AV's/GM's. That is truly worthy of a badge.

Ignore the (game destroying) fanboi sycophants and keep posting good ideas.
I think the part I highlighted is genuinely a bad idea. Many people absolutely can not solo AV's or GM's. And, unlike MoSTF where you can be 'carried' by the rest of the team, this is solo or nothing. Very bad to introduce a badge that is impossible for many people.

To the OP: Ignore people who denigrate and insult people who disagree with them. As my response shows, it's possible to disagree and explain why without resorting to name-calling.


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I would totally agree with you if it were not for one thing, Healing badges. There is no "decent" (everyone please note the "decent" so you dont rip off on a tangent and look silly) way for my Dark/Dark Scrapper to get them. My options are to take aid other, and NOT do what I was designed to do (i.e. "scrap") to get the badge, OR go the Longbow Gladiator route and then it is not even ME doing it, it is an NPC.

Based on those I see no reason NOT to give a badge for soloing in this game. Specificly a badge for doing things solo that most would consider, generally speaking, a team thing.
Yeah, one of us is looking silly here.
We need to distinguish between DIFFICULT to obtain, and possibly requiring a change to playstyle, and IMPOSSIBLE to obtain.

Please note: I *DID* take Aid Other on my broadsword/regen scrapper to work on the healing badges. Seemed like a perfectly 'decent' course of action to me - since I wanted the badges. Do you think the same sort of reasoning could apply to an empathy defender trying to solo Adamastor?


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