How to solve WW/BM Inflation

How do you manage to get inf that fast? What's the procedure?

I certainly hope it doesn't involve playing the game 16 hours a day. Inquiring minds want to know!!

Or outside any closed beta that I am aware of.

Given that I'm not aware of level 51+ recipes dropping and there were a number of closed betas that I didn't get invited to, I'm willing to concede that they may have dropped during a closed beta. However since none of that ever was open to the public at large (open beta) or done outside development (live servers), I can safely discount any information that stayed within the closed development system. As we both know, what changes in closed beta stays in closed beta.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

Well, I can't speak for others, but I'm only here for the set bonuses. I AM well aware that in general, the purple and PvP bonuses aren't that much better than less rare IOs, and often are NOT your best alternative. But sometimes they ARE. I want the best. Not the rarest, just the best. My Katana/Dark has a vendor trash Nightmare and a Gladiator's Armor +3% defense. There are several orders of magnitude difference between the two in price. But both served their purposes better than any alternatives available to me, so both went in.

I seriously don't advise people to follow my lead here, but when I want something in the game, I'm willing to put in the effort to get exactly that, and not something 99% as good. If there are a lot of people like me, well, that's one reason why some things are so expensive. I'm not a buy it nao guy, but I'll pay what it takes to get what I want as a patient bidder. I don't think I have a "that price is too high" setting for my Monopoly money. So maybe I'm part of the problem. On the other hand, while chasing after that stuff, I'm also generating a huge quantity of less rare recipes that I tend to dump on the market for below equilibrium price because they aren't worth my time and slots. So I might push up prices on the most expensive items, but I push down prices on everything else. Willing to settle for a build that's 90% as good as mine? You can get it for less than 10% the price. As you've said elsewhere, you can make a really good build for hundreds of millions.

...NO.

You just... you have no idea what's going on, do you?

The reason PVP IOs are so stupid expensive isn't because they're so good for PVP, it's because they're so good and /nobody PVPs./ The issue is that these recipes are as good as if not better than the readily available recipes for the same sets, but they never drop because there's not enough PVP happening for there to be a steady supply of them.

The recipes that are expensive aren't so because they're better for PVP, but because they're better for PVE. Melee damage, PBAOE, Targeted AOE... These are the best sets for killing foes through normal play. PBAOE isn't even viable in PVP! There's only one two ATs for whom multiple foes at once are really an issue, and controller pets aren't much of a threat at all. If AOE matters at all in PVP, it's only to fight Masterminds.

Uruare, at this point I am forced to assume that not only do you not know what you're talking about as far as economics go, but you don't actually know how the game works. Gladiator's Armor +3 Defense is stupid expensive because the only reason a character would possibly not want it is if they have no resistance powers in their build at all. It is at LEAST a 6% mitigation to all incoming damage, and as a PVP drop it is incredibly rare. This is why it's so expensive, not because the "hardcore PVPers" are driving up the prices.


You seem to be trying to tell us, though, that because inf sellers profit off certain aspects of the market, we should not use those aspects of the market. You're also telling us to purposely make stupid marketing decisions to not be evil. And you're suggesting that if we have all our purple drops and all the IOs we want, we'll have plenty of other rewards to get...

...Except we don't. There's currently really only 3 badges per side that are prestigious: Master of Whatever Task/Strike Force. As an MMO, the goal in this game for most of us is to make our characters as good as they possibly can be. Until GR's new endgame content comes out, the only way to improve my main is purple recipes (he's got all the accolades that have effects, save some day job ones) and PVP recipes. Yes, the bonus is relatively small, but it's still a bonus, a slow increase in power... And with my character slotted the way he is, if I were to shell out for the Gladiator +3 Defense, that would be something like 15% survivability increase for my character.

I've experienced most of the content redside has to offer. While I do have blue toons as well, I don't want to abandon my redsider just because I've done everything. Thus, I'm trying to improve him further and further.

If purples become more common, we'll need something else silly rare for people to strive for... That's what is FUN for a lot of us. And if working to improve your character isn't fun to you, well... Stop playing an MMO. Go try "Sonic the Hedgehog 3" that's a good game with no grind... Oh, I suppose collecting all 7 Emeralds might be a bit much, huh? What with it requiring you to spend time hunting and collecting rings and all that.


I'm Daniel Stevens, and I'm a completionist... Don't threaten me with the prospect of something that's easy to complete.

Does this mean you always make your cakes from scratch?

It means I will when I can grind enough experience to master the low level versions. Gotta work my way up, you know.

Food tastes better when you make it right yourself, and in-game rewards are shinier when you've got to work your tail off to get them.

I think using Occam's Razor, the latter is more likely to be true.



Three things.

1) You do not want to get engaged in a lexicon measuring contest. You're not really that impressive.

2) Since your goal seems to be writing a manifesto that no one will read, you should perhaps create a Twitter account.

3) If you wanted people to take you seriously, you should take the amount of time you spent not learning anything about socio-anthropology and spent it on not learning economics.

I wanted to see Synapse's build out of curiosity so I asked if anyone had pics. While it wasn't an enhancement screen (which now that I think of it would be kinda hard to get a pic of), I could see that Synapse skipped the snipe! Poor Zapp. I can't quite tell from the set bonuses if Absolute Amazement is in lightning clap, but given I see at least one ultimate fire/cold res, there's a decent chance it is, even if quite a few purples have that.

But obviously what we garner from all this is: Devs hate snipes.

well, since you don't seem to get the concept and have chosen to see the lv 51-53 recipes as never have dropped, never gonna drop and never will drop... i'll just stop right there. i think you get the point of what i was saying in my first post about it in that you don't know that they will never drop. as far as we know the devs could flood the market with them tomorrow. sure i agree that it would be an infl/inf sink, but at what cost to the game? how many people would just up and quit due to this? i think it would be a lot more people then you think. this is why all ideas must be thought out and debated. you can't just say that you don't agree with something so remove it. it doesn't work that way. and if the devs wanted it changed it would have been done already. the end.

Well, that's it, the post is won. Devs hate snipes. There's nothing else to argue about.

Nothing of the sort. I farm a modest amount of AE tickets, roll for recipes, craft the valuable ones until my market slots are full, and then log off. On weekends, I'll stockpile the same IOs ahead of time and just make sure my market slots stay full, since turnover is so fast.

I know it sounds simple...well, it is, but I've gotten it down to an efficient system where I know price points, profit margins, which salvage are suspectible to price spikes, which IOs sell in hours/which in weeks. It allows me to have very fast turnover so I can list more IOs and make a large amount with every market slot I have per day.

Occasionally, I'll try to farm for purples as well, but I've hit this benchmark multiple times without selling a single purple. Usually, if I get one, I'll craft it and just store it, only selling it if I get a duplicate.

I've been doing this for a long time, and only relatively recently have I seen more people do this instead of farming dev maps for drops/purples. I haven't farmed Battle Maiden in years.

All in all, it takes about 1 hour/day. You can definitely do more than that, especially if you want to stockpile, but that's what I usually do.

Speak for yourself. For me, food always tastes a lot better when someone else made it!

Except for eggs over medium. No one ever gets that right! They're either too runny or too solid. I swear, learn to cook, people!

This sounds sweet. I'll have to start giving this a try. I've been playing AE missions a bit lately and I noticed it doesn't take me very long to max out on tickets. Though I might mix it up with what I'm already doing, at least for now. Thanks!

Okay last post but I'll agree with Coyote on this...I always like food better when it's free and made by someone else (usually a friend/family member).

...and I'll just say try again with another suggestion.

Given that purples are intended by the devs as being ultra-rare recipes, the pricing on those recipes would probably be equivalent to about 500 million inf.

If they ever put purples in a store they should cost a minimum of 500,000,000 inf. Period.

Then you can slave away doing that instead of just doing what the rest of us did when it was EASIER just to buy them from the market.

Jinx!

edit: What is the likelihood of two posters coming up with the same number in response to a post and posting it at the same time?

Double Jinx!

Sweet.

Oh, and I guess I hereby release you from the jinx or something. I don't know how the rules work.

I can't remember if it was one billion or two billion I've made in a week before. I'd "run out" of influence (down to half a billion or so, I think), and still wanted a shiny PvP IO that was going for about 1.5 billion at the time. Found a handful of rare IOs where the price of the recipe and salvage was over ten million, where there was over a ten million influence spread between the costs and the going rate for the crafted IO (last 5... risky, I know), and where the demand was higher than the supply (again, just bidding/selling... also risky). Jumped in, bid on stacks of ten of the recipes and rare salvage, crafted as it came in, and sold the IOs on another character. When you're making 10-20 million profit on each, a hundred this way will give you one to two billion. Crafting and selling a hundred IOs is not a huge investment of time. Some investment, but not a huge investment.

There's risk involved. I wasn't in any of the cheaper niches that were more familiar to me. In some cases, I think I lost influence. But in most cases, I cleaned up, and the net profit was quite large. I think it was still a couple weeks before I had my shiny IO, because I'm also a patient bidder. I think I got it for about half a billion under the going rate, if I remember. Maybe just a couple hundred million under, but I remember being happy.

Anyway, big influence is easy. You just have to... well, do one of the very many things that can make you big influence.