Is raiding dead on Infinity?

After an abscence of three months or more, I've finally returned to CoX. I was blessed with the birth of my first son, and, financially and time restraint left no room for CoX. But, now, I'm back.
Since returning, I've found out that the population on Infinty has been dwindling, especially on the global channels, some quitting the game, some jumping ship to freedumb and other servers. My global friend list stays in the grey now.
Before I left for a bit, I was trying to drum up some interest in Hamidon raiding to little success. We did see one successful raid, but half of the leads didn't show, so it took two hours over the initial start time to get the team leaders and their teams ready before we could begin. So I was trying to line up those leads, and a few back-ups, get them well prepped before scheduling another one. Unfortunately, I couldn't get enough people for leads.
So, now I'm asking if there's any interest in Hami raiding at all. If there's enough interest, maybe we can get the ball rolling. I'm not attempting to recruit team leads just yet, just trying to see if the community wants to raid. If you're interested in participating in Hami raids, leave it here.

I'm in, and I know a few other people that would love to join in.

I wish you best of luck but seriously think your best shot is to move a couple toons to Freedumb or possibly Justice or Virtue for a Hami Raid.

I think for many of the veteran players the risk versus rewards don't balance out.

It's not a risk vs. reward, but more time invested for return.

Counting getting EoE's, setting up, and then actually raiding, there's far better ways for me to spend my time to get the HO/merits.

Think many others are of that mindset.

I wouldn't mind helping out on one raid. But it'd pretty much be a one shot deal for me...the set up time is just something I can't do often, if ever, due to real life constraints. And I agree, Infinity for the most part is decent players, it's really the lazy factor.

But I never participated in old Hami...my main was a stormy and I didn't feel like sitting on my hands for hours to do the one thing I was allowed to do, which, if I remember correctly, either O2 Boost someone until my eyes bled or hit Hami once for the damage credit.

But I'll give the new raid a shot if you decide to try it again on Infinity, if you can drum up enough interest. I'm easy enough to train if it involves a) corruptors/defenders/controllers or b) ranged stuff and c) it's on a day I can attend.

I've never done a Hami Raid successfully, and only been on one unsuccessful try. I would love to be part of this, but the amount of setup time scares me a bit.

I've been playing the game for five years now, but only got a character to 50 relatively recently. I know how to play her (blaster) to good effect, just not necessarily on a raid yet. I also have a level 50 defender bouncing around the various servers at the moment.

One thing for me is that the scheduled raids always happened on Sunday evening, when I can't commit to be there due to other obligations.

From what I've heard, it just sounds tedious. I've never attended the new raid format but I did the old one quite a bit. If it's at a time I can show up, I'd certainly like to see what the new raid is like, just out of curiosity. Then I can decide for myself if it's tedious or not.

It'd be great for Hami raids to return on Infinity. There was a time it was a weekly affair on Saturday evenings. Perhaps if it were limited to once or twice a month, more people might come to give it a shot. I think what also hurt putting the raids together was losing all of the data here when the boards were moved. Miss Illuzion and OSHA had put together a fine blueprint that was very helpful to those not familiar with how a Hamidon Raid was supposed to be run. Now it's a thing of the past. I'd gladly join in on a Hami raid if the interest is there.

Ooh, if you schedule one, I want to come! I've been to several that were successful, and I'll help out however I can. I'm not very good at fighting, but I can call out instructions if needed, and of course, teleport the heroes to safety! I love these events. They're dangerous, but it's really wonderful seeing so many heroes working together at their best!

I'll ditto Slax. I raid on Virtue and once you go Virt, you don't go back (for raiding at least). 30ish minute raids, once Hami blooms, if someone has a Bio nuke (or 2 or 4). Heck, they did a 20 man raid this weekend (took a while).

Justice is also very efficient.

I don't know what it is about Infinity. If a raid comes up, I'll lend a hand if I can though. I'd love to see it come back, blue or red, though I have a feeling a redside raid may never happen again.

It's kind of a catch-22:

It's hard to set up a Hami Raid, because we have so few people who are experienced enough to be comfortable doing one....

But if we did more Hami Raids, we'd then have more experienced people.


But as Cremzen mentioned in his previous post: It's not really necessary to for everyone participating in the raid to be experienced in Hami Raiding, as long as the Raid Leader and enough other people know what they are doing. The last time Cremzen hosted a Hami Raid, he asked me to be lead the Mito Taunt team and I had NEVER participated in a Hami Raid before, yet the Raid was successful.

I think that after enough of these are done, Hami Raids can be as "routine" as Mother Ship Raids on Infinity.

Cremzen, I really hope you're successful in bringing Hami Raids back!

I guess it's my own fault for titling this thread with a question. I shoulda known I was gonna get it answered. Although it might seem that I'm trying to find out if Hami raiding was dead, it was not my intention. I merely wanted to see if there was any interest in bringing it back.

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Originally Posted by Tiny Bolt This. Well, given how star-phobic and laz--I mean laid back Infinity tends to be, it could be we just haven't gotten off our tushies to do one.

Well, someone's getting off their tushie to try to make it happen, but I can't do it alone. I think one man Hami raids are pretty much impossible, like 99.99999%.
What really seems to get me, that even though raiding is not fast enough to be worth some people's time, they make the time to tell us about it. The people who are lazy get off their @$$ to say they can't do it. Those who are unwilling to help, say it more than likely can't be done. PLEASE do not take this as me flaming anyone who has expressed their opinion negatively towards raiding. There are alot of different opinions out there, and it's your God-given right to have them, and your internet provider that gives you the right to express your opinions, freely. It is not my intention to pick a fight or tell anyone they're wrong, but why bother wasting your time discouraging others from trying something new? Yes, there are many of us that have done it and done it and done it, but some of us actually still like doing it, and there's a huge number of people who've never gotten the chance to experience it. How many people do you think there is on our server who've only been around for 3-9 months? And how many of those do you think have experienced a raid? Some might not ever want to, but they might look at this thread and get discouraged from ever trying it. I know there's a good number of people on Infinity that are grinders, or "min/maxers", as someone put it, and until we can get our times down and keep them down consistently, this is not an event for you, but some of us like the "epicness" of doing a raid.
The fact is, I know we can get a raid done, I just can't promise it'll be under 60 or 90 minutes. Do I think we can bring whatever times we have down once we've gotten a little more used to them? Absolutely. Can we bring them down to other server's average times? I don't see why not. We just need to get this thing off the ground first. Once the community is a bit more familiar with it again, there's no telling what we can get done.
Basically, it all boils down to this, I'm trying to bring life back to an event that I know at least some people really enjoy doing, and the last thing I want, is to debate whether it's right for each individual that frequents these forums.
If I have pissed you off, offended you, or attacked any of your opinions, I apologize. I'm just expressing my opinion, as you have the right to do....

Cremzen,

First off, congrats on being a parent! Wonderfully terrorizing, ain't it? Secondly, welcome back to the game. In response to your question I thought I would chime to point out that there are currently successful RWZ raids just about every Sunday at 8:00pm est on infinity. There was even a later-than-usual raid on Superbowl Sunday.

Given, RWZ raids go much quicker and take less tact, but the leadership is there as well as cooperation and coordination. If it is something you are really interested in seeing return to Infinity, you might seek out the RWZ raid head-honchos and see if they would care to give a Hami raid a go.

Cheers,