Dr. Aeon's Second Architect Challenge


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Hello everyone!

Sigh...you know, sometimes it's tough being the creator of so many great products, living the good life in the high tower with all these responsibilities. So many things to juggle...remember when it was easier? When you were still new and didn't have so many things to take care of? Back when you could...could just be yourself? I'm not crying! Ahem...I'm just...aha! Coming up with an idea for the next challenge! That's it...I know EXACTLY what it'll be! I challenge you all to write an arc for levels 5 to 10 with a story about a known hero or villain who loses their powers.


When you feel that you've made an arc that has the chops to meet these guidelines, send an e-mail to AECommunityContest@ncsoft.com with the following in the subject line: @Global Name - Arc ID - Arc Name. Submissions for the arc can start NOW and will end on Wednesday, February 24th, 11:59 AM PST. You can only submit your own arcs. No submitting for shy people!


Winners will be announced on or around March 3rd 2010 on the Official City of Heroes Message Forums.


The grand prize winner will receive a permanent title on a character of their choice.

I feel like we've gotten to know each other really well over the past few months. So you know what, here's a tip, something for you all to keep in mind when you're trying to meet my high expectations.


An arc that meets these criteria is just the first step towards winning. Throwing in a surprise that you don't often see in levels 5-10 will help you stand out more in this challenge. I want to enjoy the times that have passed!
So, what are you waiting for? The contest starts now! Good luck!

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First reply! Woot!


 

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By "known" hero or villain you are talking about established NPC characters ingame, correct?


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a known hero or villain
Well, surely you can't mean Batman or Wolverine, because that's against the EULA.

So, you mean like Numina or Cap'n Mako? That is, known to be known in the in-game world?

Or do you mean create a known hero/villain: "Everyone in Paragon City knows Ted the Uberwonderer, but did you know of the time he lost his powers?..."


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By "known" hero or villain you are talking about established NPC characters ingame, correct?
Assuming so, that kills my possible entry. I have one I've been plotting for months now (slow worker here, yah...) that would have actually fit this theme, in a round about way. Oh well, I probably wouldn't have been able to finish the darn thing by that date anyways.


 

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And....

Given that most known heroes are "Hero" level in power, its strange to get lvl 5-10s to help them out. It seems like an arc involving a powerful heroes powers being gone, would be a higher level.


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Just to clarify, it has to be written that the character is a known hero or villain. Meaning that you could use Recluse, Mako, Statesman, etc. or you can use a character of your own creation, so long as their background is that they're a known hero or villain.


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And....

Given that most known heroes are "Hero" level in power, its strange to get lvl 5-10s to help them out. It seems like an arc involving a powerful heroes powers being gone, would be a higher level.
If you were Statesman - would you really want to go to Manticore and say "Um, well - I kind of need your help. All those powers I've been lording over you all these years? They're kind of, well, gone. Can you help me get them back?"


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If you were Statesman - would you really want to go to Manticore and say "Um, well - I kind of need your help. All those powers I've been lording over you all these years? They're kind of, well, gone. Can you help me get them back?"
Heh, good point.

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Just to clarify, it has to be written that the character is a known hero or villain. Meaning that you could use Recluse, Mako, Statesman, etc. or you can use a character of your own creation, so long as their background is that they're a known hero or villain.
Ahhh, thanks Doc.


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If you were Statesman - would you really want to go to Manticore and say "Um, well - I kind of need your help. All those powers I've been lording over you all these years? They're kind of, well, gone. Can you help me get them back?"
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If you were Statesman - would you really want to go to Manticore and say "Um, well - I kind of need your help. All those powers I've been lording over you all these years? They're kind of, well, gone. Can you help me get them back?"
Isn't that exactly how it ended up in the first Freedom Phalanx storyline of the comic book series?

Not that States asked for the help, but Manticore was the one who enabled superpowers to return to the world. (States sure as hell didn't ask for an arrow in his suddenly mortal chest as part of the bargain, either...)


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... half my aborted arcs flow along this vein. Time to cast Mutation on one and clean it up!


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And....

Given that most known heroes are "Hero" level in power, its strange to get lvl 5-10s to help them out. It seems like an arc involving a powerful heroes powers being gone, would be a higher level.
Yeah really. Seems quite unusual that a high-level NPC would be abandoned by his/her comrades. A villain maybe but they're not going to kick Synapse out of the Phalanx just because he's having a slow day.


 

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This sounds like a really interesting premise, I can't wait to see what everyone cooks up!

I feel pretty twitchy to give the challenge another go, but now is a busy time for me study-wise. Oh well I'll see what happens, in the mean time good luck to everyone!


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First reply! Woot!
And what? Do you get a golden cookie? Gosh that crap so annoys me to no end.



About this contest, its really sad to see yet another contest with guidelines. Whatever happened to a simple contest to submit a story of your own creativity? Instead we have a contest of basically some one saying this is what you HAVE to write about.


Furthermore how creative can you even be with a character losing their powers? Yes, its a contest and I can choose to enter or not to enter; but open a comic book of any type and you will surely find a story like this. Its been done into the ground for decades.

Some one looses their powers because they ran into a green gem, someone looses their powers because they got shot, someone looses their powers because someone shot a ray gun up their butt, or how about someone lost their powers because they sneezed.


My opinion is if your going to hold a contest let people be creative on their own terms without constraints and silly repeats of what has all ready been done.


 

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About this contest, its really sad to see yet another contest with guidelines. Whatever happened to a simple contest to submit a story of your own creativity? Instead we have a contest of basically some one saying this is what you HAVE to write about.
You are familiar with the Mission Architect system right? Where you enter your own stories by your own creativity. I don't know what you're asking for here. If the challenges had no basis they would just be boring, repetitive and be virtually identical to the existing system.


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Furthermore how creative can you even be with a character losing their powers? Yes, its a contest and I can choose to enter or not to enter; but open a comic book of any type and you will surely find a story like this. Its been done into the ground for decades.

Some one looses their powers because they ran into a green gem, someone looses their powers because they got shot, someone looses their powers because someone shot a ray gun up their butt, or how about someone lost their powers because they sneezed.
*cough* It's a challenge *cough* Same goes for people questioning why a 5-10 person would help a hero/villain get their powers back. It's not supposed to be something any random joe can pull off, a challenge is supposed to push you. Leading on from my original point, a contest with a specific theme challenges your creativity and pushes it to find something good within certain limits.



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About this contest, its really sad to see yet another contest with guidelines. Whatever happened to a simple contest to submit a story of your own creativity? Instead we have a contest of basically some one saying this is what you HAVE to write about.
You could always join us foreign folks who do like contests with a theme, but who are not acceptable to NCSoft xenophobes. I really think it's an awesome theme, but since I'm not "with them", I'm probably supposed to be "against" it. Good luck again folks.



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About this contest, its really sad to see yet another contest with guidelines. Whatever happened to a simple contest to submit a story of your own creativity? Instead we have a contest of basically some one saying this is what you HAVE to write about.
In practical terms if you let players enter a story of their own creation then basically most of the playerbase who read the forums are going to enter one of their pre-existing arcs (why wouldn't they? It takes no further effort and they have nothing to lose). Then the Devs would get deluged with arcs to play through - and I'm willing to bet they don't have the time to play through hundreds/thousands of arcs. Themes/limitations mean that almost all players have to create something specifically for this contest and in terms of fairness they all start from the same point/premise.

Also you may not believe it, but limitations do breed creativity - all successful authors, movie/TV scriptwriters and game designers in the world work with much stricter limitations than this contest has. Dr Aeon is giving us a basic framework to get us started and also challenging our creativity to create something fairly original and fresh despite the given limitation. It also gives him common ground for judging each entry based on how they tackle the premise.


 

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Without limitations all poetry would simply be free verse, i.e., not poetry at all, but just flowery prose with extra carriage returns.

It also makes judging easier. A comedy film has almost no chance of ever getting the Academy Award for Best Picture, but has a good chance of winning in the category Best Comedy.


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You could always join us foreign folks who do like contests with a theme, but who are not acceptable to NCSoft xenophobes. I really think it's an awesome theme, but since I'm not "with them", I'm probably supposed to be "against" it. Good luck again folks.
Yeah that is rather disappointing - according to the rules as they are written I can't enter either because where I legally reside is not part of the EU (even though we are geographically part of Europe), and is obviously not in the USA nor Canada either.

I don't know what the specific reasons for the US+Canada+EU-only restrictions are - obviously it's something legal as I note that Rhode Island, Guam, Puerto Rico and Quebec residents can't enter this contest either. Curiously non-Quebecker Canadians will have to answer a mathematical question if they win to be eligible to claim their prize (though I wouldn't be shocked if it's 1+1=? ) which suggests to me there's a legal loophole that NCSoft are using to make this contest eligible for potential contestants in most Canadian provinces/territories which doesn't exist in Quebec law.

My residential details certainly didn't block my eligibility for Dev Choice, which in legal terms wouldn't seem all that different to an AE contest with an in-game prize which even the contest rules state has zero value (now watch them take my Dev Choice away from me ). Strange.

Oh well, whatever - I probably would have entered this time, seeing as I have a newly freed-up arc slot and time on my hands, but it's not worth getting bitter about. Good luck to the majority who are eligible to enter.


 

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In practical terms if you let players enter a story of their own creation then basically most of the playerbase who read the forums are going to enter one of their pre-existing arcs (why wouldn't they? It takes no further effort and they have nothing to lose). Then the Devs would get deluged with arcs to play through - and I'm willing to bet they don't have the time to play through hundreds/thousands of arcs. Themes/limitations mean that almost all players have to create something specifically for this contest and in terms of fairness they all start from the same point/premise.

Also you may not believe it, but limitations do breed creativity - all successful authors, movie/TV scriptwriters and game designers in the world work with much stricter limitations than this contest has. Dr Aeon is giving us a basic framework to get us started and also challenging our creativity to create something fairly original and fresh despite the given limitation. It also gives him common ground for judging each entry based on how they tackle the premise.
I disagree. Most of Hollywood is made of remakes; it has exploded in just a few years.Furthermore most of those successful authors are never told what to write, they are successful for doing what they wanted. Good example would be the "Harry Potter" series. Was the author told what to write? No. If she was, I am sure she would not be as rich and famous as she is now. You are famous for using all of your abilities not bits of them.

In my free time I write, love too write, if someone came to me and told me what I HAD to write about I'd be pretty pissed off.

Along with that if people wish to submit a previous arc they written, so what. Perhaps they are proud of their work and wish to at least try to have it recognize with out the constraints of guild lines.

Perhaps you find it challenging to try and write some thing while having your hands cuffed behind your back. I however feel that if you want some one to be in a contest give them an opportunity to use the all of their creativity.

Anyways good luck to those who enter.


 

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Just to clarify, it has to be written that the character is a known hero or villain. Meaning that you could use Recluse, Mako, Statesman, etc. or you can use a character of your own creation, so long as their background is that they're a known hero or villain.
Oh you son of a leech, now I do have to try for it! (I'm kind of curious why the word "known" was used in the first place now, but no biggie.)

I also wonder though if there are any caveats to this theme, like how last time some arcs were disqualified for "giving the player the choice to do the evil or not". Like, oh, I dunno, "the loss of superpowers has to be permanent" or something.

Regardless, I'm now taking a look at my nebulous notes for my possible entry and seeing if I can shape it to fit.


 

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I disagree. Most of Hollywood is made of remakes; it has exploded in just a few years.Furthermore most of those successful authors are never told what to write, they are successful for doing what they wanted. Good example would be the "Harry Potter" series. Was the author told what to write? No. If she was, I am sure she would not be as rich and famous as she is now. You are famous for using all of your abilities not bits of them.

In my free time I write, love too write, if someone came to me and told me what I HAD to write about I'd be pretty pissed off.

Along with that if people wish to submit a previous arc they written, so what. Perhaps they are proud of their work and wish to at least try to have it recognize with out the constraints of guild lines.

Perhaps you find it challenging to try and write some thing while having your hands cuffed behind your back. I however feel that if you want some one to be in a contest give them an opportunity to use the all of their creativity.

Anyways good luck to those who enter.
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