Regen Scrapper

I created a new MA/Regen scrapper last week to use when I want to solo. She's up to 10th level now. I haven't managed Dull Pain yet but I have the other three available at my level (and love the sudden freedom from endurance issues). Her "armor" seems to be that once every other battle or so (more often if I go slowly) she can heal herself around 60 points and she heals 2.2 hp/second.

Really? 2 freakin' hit points?

Lots of fights, especially if a lieutenant is involved, seem to come down to my accuracy. If I hit them with the full chain I win, if not well... things can get a little dicey. I feel more like a blaster without the benefit of a ranged attack, than a scrapper.

Maybe I'm not remembering the early days of my DB/SR correctly but I don't remember having these sorts of problems with her. Tell me it gets better!

Once you get to 16 and integration it gets much better.

Right now think of yourself as a low downtime (thanks to reconstruction and QR) blapper

If it makes you feel any better, all scrappers (and tankers) are like this early on. You are actually better off than most due to the ability to heal yourself and the lack of any endurance issues.

I never learnt to like Regen despite bringing one up to 50. All other sets seem to outperform it from what I've experienced (this is after taking 7 scrappers to 50 and IOing them to varying degrees).

It might be because I paired it with MA which lacks AoE (another thing I hate) and proactive damage protection (such as Parry). Although I did play him to 50 before the changes to MoG, it never revived my interest in a Regen scrapper, even though I know they can be made quite insane with IOs. Maybe I just ought to try Regen again with a different primary...

Regen by its very nature is 'squishy'. You have to be a little bit more cautious than the average Scrapper especially as it can't take 'Alpha' strikes like other armour sets. But like most powersets, once you get into the 20s, it becomes a lot more solid.

That said, it has distinct advantages over others. You never have to worry about the 'type' of damage coming in because you heal it straight back. You get a very nice God mode at level 28 and once you get to 38, you even have a power that helps mitigate the dreaded Alpha. I love regen (especially on my Claws/Regen), I think it's unique in being able to counter damage in an inventive way without relying on outside sources. But you'll just have to get used to not being able to dive into a spawn without thinking about it. Defence, Recharge and pulling are your friends.

Regen scrappers are beasts at high levels once you learn when to heal and when NOT to heal (many times your base regen will get you through a fight)

The main advantage I've found is: As long as you don't run into anything that can kill you in 2 or 3 hits you just NEVER STOP. A regen that also has Stamina will never run out of endurance unless hit by a Malta Sapper or similar. With IOs you can get up to around 25% defense to all positions, which is very noticable with your ridiculous regen rate.

Wait until you hit level 50 and you're regening 50 HP per second and have a 600+ point heal every 30-45 seconds. If your timing is good you become nearly unkillable.

Yeah. I'm working on a DB/Regen that I am shooting for around 30% defense to all positions and 60% global recharge. While having to redraw after heals is mildly annoying, it's a lot less distracting than I had feared (and raw DPS isn't a specific build goal or I would have gone a different route). So far, I'm loving it. Then again, I'm something of a Regen addict.

so why would anyone judge the viability of a power set combo through 10 levels?

i don't get it.

Especially with /SR as the comparison point.

Regen does get better. It's never going to do what a well built /SR can do IMO, but it's still a fun set to play. I like it for the simple fact it comes with QR that can stack with Stamina. Micromanaging END is one of three things I hate most in this game, and with Regen, you don't have to worry about END.

I hear you on that. Miss streaks are the suck.

My first scrap and main is ma/sr, and second 50 was claws/regen. I often wish I could just switch them, having ma/regen and claws/sr primarly so I wouldn't have to worry about redraw. Redraw is what kills me with claws/regen, although its just fun with it as well.

SR was a lot more difficult low level than regen was, but I rarely ever solo. Back in the day, there were probably 10 times as many regens running around than sr's, but then IOs came out.

Both can do crazy things with IOs, think sr is just cheaper and easier. Easier in that it is tog up and forget it. Regen with the same amount of IO investment is probably better, but a lot more difficult to play. Timing is everything. Like said above. Its about knowing when you can get by without using dull pain so u have it when you REALLY need it. Lot of gambling involved.

MA is still my fav powerset for scrappers. the kb in crane can save you a lot. Dragon's tail is like sweep combo for db but without the chain requirements. Its often said MA lacks aoe, which it does, but I think its got about the best AOE attack for scrappers (obviously its counterparts, not Lighting rod or shield charge). That aoe knock up can do a lot of mitigation by itself. Cobra strike, which ive found worthless pretty much on teams, is a totally different story solo'n. stun one lt while you kill the other, or stun the lt and kill the boss, or cobra strike and thunder kick the boss and kill the lt. Add in eagle's claw is a lot more reliable, but its aways away. Eagle's claw also has the coolest animation for me of scrapper attacks period.

I'd say stick it out till lvl 22 at least. Get you some SOs, integration, you should already have a pretty solid chain with TK, SK, CK (available at lvl 8 or something). Tough helps a lot on my claws/regen, which i would get through respec later on cause i hate takin kick or punch and having to wait for another pick.

...and I'd probably roll another /regen one day, but im kinda waitin for super strenght to get ported over.

Another nice thing about Regen is the fact that Quick Recovery comes so early in the set. Pretty much from level 4 on you shouldn't have too many endurance issues.

This frees you up to take more powers from your primary or secondary without having to try and cram the fitness pool in by level 20. If you get Stamina in by level 30 or 35 any endurance issues you may have had should have completely disappeared.

Iggy was being modest in his above post. I've seen video of his Claws/Regen pulling off the RWZ Challenge using nothing but Swipe. So yes, an IOed regen can pull off some crazy things. (On a related note, Iggy, I just saw what you did with your Kat/WP.....you disgust me )

My Claws/Regen is nowhere near that good, but he is unkillable in most situations he is put in. I can't solo on max difficulty, but most normal content at normal difficulty levels is almost too easy.