Which TFs in the game can be soloed?


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I know you're talking "TFs" but Duray in the Silver Mantis SF is very soloable, especially if you're not unduly constraining yourself from using insps.

Soloing Renault simply isn't justifiable. 3 AVs in the last 2 missions makes soloing a horrible merit/time effort.

I haven't tried soloing Ice Mistral yet.


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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA View Post
I know you're talking "TFs" but Duray in the Silver Mantis SF is very soloable, especially if you're not unduly constraining yourself from using insps.

Soloing Renault simply isn't justifiable. 3 AVs in the last 2 missions makes soloing a horrible merit/time effort.

I haven't tried soloing Ice Mistral yet.
I think you pretty much have to have an Immob/-Fly power to take out Duray reliably with melee characters, and an SS/SD Brute won't have that unless he got lucky with an arms deal. Without it the odds are you're going to get very frustrated trying to chase him with Fly or a jet pack while his health slowly recovers.


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I think you pretty much have to have an Immob/-Fly power to take out Duray reliably with melee characters, and an SS/SD Brute won't have that unless he got lucky with an arms deal. Without it the odds are you're going to get very frustrated trying to chase him with Fly or a jet pack while his health slowly recovers.
This hasn't been my experience at all. Ever (and I've done this a time or 2). I don't know if it matters, but I always fight him by the sunken tanker on the map, where he hangs out when he's not aggrod.


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This hasn't been my experience at all. Ever (and I've done this a time or 2). I don't know if it matters, but I always fight him by the sunken tanker on the map, where he hangs out when he's not aggrod.
Well, I haven't done many where he's had a chance to fly out to range. The first few occasions where he did left such a bad taste in my mouth that I won't do the SF without a way to stop him.


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Originally Posted by uberschveinen View Post
Title, really. I know there's a few Redside I can do
which red side can be solo'd? besides this ouroboros ones?


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which red side can be solo'd? besides this ouroboros ones?
Before the change to merits, I knew a few people who regularly soloed the Tarikoss SF.


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Before the change to merits, I knew a few people who regularly soloed the Tarikoss SF.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
The Sewer Trial is probably unsoloable specifically because it's on a limited timer - a situation that's pretty unique among TFs and Trials.
Actually, EVERY blue-side trial has some sort of timer involved. Nothing unique there.


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In the interest of completeness, too, I just wanted to point out to anyone who doesn't know, that (aside from the Ouroboros "TFs" [which aren't truly TFs]) technically there AREN'T any TFs that can be soloed -- as soon as only one character is in a TF, it auto-disbands. So "soloing" a TF is actually doing it alone, spawned for at least two (one logged out).
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This is not entirely true.

The trick is starting the first mission. Once you are in the first mission, the other members can quit/be kicked and the TF is still able to be completed.
Wrong. It is ENTIRELY and PRECISELY true. Also, you don't need to be IN the first mission. Once you are in task force mode, you can kick all others EXCEPT ONE. You MUST have two people in the task force or it disbands. Eric has every detail in that post correct.


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Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
Wrong. It is ENTIRELY and PRECISELY true. Also, you don't need to be IN the first mission. Once you are in task force mode, you can kick all others EXCEPT ONE. You MUST have two people in the task force or it disbands. Eric has every detail in that post correct.
The issue is it used to work that way, IIRC - the enter the first mission and kick everyone. But not since the last batch of TF changes.


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This is not entirely true.

The trick is starting the first mission. Once you are in the first mission, the other members can quit/be kicked and the TF is still able to be completed.
Nope, it's entirely true. As M-B and Ironblade also pointed out, when it happens is immaterial; at any time that the entire team (including logged out toons) contains only one member, then that TF/SF is immediately disbanded (with the aforementioned Ouroboros TF/SF exception).


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
The issue is it used to work that way, IIRC - the enter the first mission and kick everyone. But not since the last batch of TF changes.
The requirement of 2+ for a TF has been around for a lot longer than that.


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The requirement of 2+ for a TF has been around for a lot longer than that.
I tested it myself for the first time, in the I4 era. I know of others who tested it before that.



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One (or more) people are logged off.

Logged off folks stil are associated with the TF.



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Actually, EVERY blue-side trial has some sort of timer involved. Nothing unique there.
The respec trials do not contain any completion timer at all. While the attack waves in the reactor are on a timer, it does not matter how long you actually take to defeat them, so long as you don't let them destroy the reactor. The Eden trial has a four hour timer on defeating the Crystal Titan.

I did forget about the Cavern, though. It also has a 90 minute timer.


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The respec trials do not contain any completion timer at all.
I'm aware of that. Please note, I said "some sort of timer". Every trial involves a timer. In the case of the respec trials, it actually makes the mission take LONGER, rather than imposing a deadline.


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Then that comment seems wildly tangential to the point I was making that you responded to, that the Sewer Trial is almost certainly unsoloable because of its timer. What's the relevance of pointing out some timers that actually makes it easier to solo some trials?

As an aside, I don't think anyone would think of "on a timer" in the sense you seem to have meant it when comparing, say, the Sewer and Respec Trials.


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i wouldnt believe anyone who said they soloed a TF! dont think its possible, never seen it done! anyone who says they did it would be very suspect. and i would probably call them a liar!


 

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Positron = end boss is only an Elite Boss which is pretty easy to take out solo.

Manticore = Hopkins is a GIGANTIC WUSS! He's labelled as an AV but feels more like an Elite Boss, bring a Shivan (name them Steve, shivans always work better when named, a little superstition on my part) and you should be fine.

Those are the only two I've ever solo'd both times with my DM/Regen scrapper.


 

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i wouldnt believe anyone who said they soloed a TF! dont think its possible, never seen it done! anyone who says they did it would be very suspect. and i would probably call them a liar!
Oh boy. Someone on the internet is going to call me a liar.


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Bit of a tardy post, but for some reason I didn't think to mention this...

If you're worried about whether or not you can take the end boss in a TF just put them in an AE arc to practice on (remember to fix the level to that of the TF), that only takes a few minutes.


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Are they always AV-class or do they downgrade to Elite Boss under some circumstances (difficulty setting, number of people on the team, etc.)?


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The AVs in TFs remain AVs no matter what mix of team size and/or difficulty.



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The AVs in TFs remain AVs no matter what mix of team size and/or difficulty.
(With the exception of the Ouroboros "TFs", which aren't technically TFs anyway.)


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