DM for tankers, scrappers and brutes.

Anyone else out there think they should change DM's Souldrain into Build-Up, like they did for Stalkers? Would more people be inclined to play that powerset if it actually happened?

They can change Soul Drain to a build up type power when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

People would probably be less inclined to play the powerset if that happened

No, not really. With 3 targets (extremely common situation), Soul Drain is +16% tohit and +80% damage for 30s, 120s recharge (Scrapper numbers). Build Up is +20% tohit and +100% damage for 10s, 90s recharge.

Before slotting, Soul Drain is up 25% of the time, Build Up is up 11.11% of the time. After slotting, Soul Drain is up approximately 48.75%, while Build Up is approximately 21.66%.

Soul Drain matches Build Up for +tohit and +dam at 5 targets, and is capable of hitting up to 10, which would result in 1.5 time Build Up's buffs. And Soul Drain does damage, as well (especially good for Brutes and Tankers)

Soul Drain only really loses out on endurance cost (SD cost 3x BU), and how late it's available.

No. No.

I don't think it would draw any more players to the set. Not everyone is a min/maxxer. Furthermore- a lot of people are fairly happy with the way things are right now with the set.

The only change I could ask for would be for the "baseline" 50% +dam and 10% +tohit to be granted whether you hit the target or not. That way it would actually be moderately useful in PvP (when you want to hit your BU type power before you're in melee so that you can capitalize on what time you do have in melee) and more useful whenever you're operating with massive amounts of tohit debuffs (i.e. when you actually need the +tohit).

Actually...I'm pretty happy with how it is now.

Yeah...it's the suckie in PvP. But, sometimes some sets are going to be better in PvP while others are better in PvE.

In addition to everything Fleeting Whisper said, the only reason the power was changed for Stalkers is because SD is not suitable for pre-emptive buffing so that you can get a hidden attack off. Changing it to BU actually reduces the possible damage boost the set has available. SD actually outdoes BU's damage contribution over time with just one target in range. +80%, 11% of the time is weaker than +48%, 25% of the time.

Of course, Claws for Stalkers is far worse off, considering they give up +30%, ~83% of the time. With the right builds, Claws can have +60%, 100% of the time (well, before misses).

BU is actually pretty bad compared to most of the other options for damage boosts.

* = Should all be Brute/Stalker/Tanker numbers.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

And I'm speaking of circumstantial terms. Because the game isn't suspended in a vacuum where performance over time trumps all.

I'm not biased toward BU. I already know it pales in comparison to fully saturated SD or on tough targets that matter (AVs/GMs) FU is better. But then it's all compare and contrast, not out and out ultimate fact as to which is better and which is worse.

What is this I hear about someone wanting to change Soul Drain to Build Up?

Don't touch my Soul Drain.

Don't EVER touch my Soul Drain.

My little qualm I have with SD is that it does damage, and over time it kills my fuel for AAo lol.

To the people who mentioned it being bad in PvP, you could always hop into a group of NPCs to use it.

Very true, though you may not want to alert the villains to yur presence and possibly be debuffed by the MM.

I guess I should have specified on my question better.......don't exactly post much lol..... I guess I was mainly talking for pvp. I like it the way it is for pve, not so hot for AV's and such. For pvp I think it has some potential. But only if they change it for those zones.