Oil Slicks and EMPs
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-01-04 05:42 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
EMP arrow only does damage if the target is electroinic, I.E. a robot of some kind
So no it won't light an Oil slick.
Sadly TA has no way of lighting is own oil slick. That must come from your secondary(for defenders0 or your primary(for trollers).
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and a few others
And for Masterminds, your Commando can set it on fire. 
However, the Scirocco set for MMs works BEAUTIFULLY with Oil Slick, as all of the patron powers for MMs in that set do energy damage...
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If I remember corrrectly its energy and Negative energy attacks that will light it, in addition ot the obvious fire attacks. One of the origin attacks(magic I believe) does energy dmg and will light it.
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Yes, Energy/Negative Energy attacks work too (Scirocco's set does Energy damage).
Also, unexpected perk - Oil Slick can be targeted by Darkest Night AND by Twilight Grasp. 
(Hubby was quite surprised to realize he was healing people off my Oil Slick.)
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Negative energy doesn't light it, actually. It would make a lot of those TA/Dark Defenders I keeep hearing about happy if it did, though.
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Actually both the Magic and Tech origin attacks do energy damage.
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Originally Posted by Brynstar
If I remember corrrectly its energy and Negative energy attacks that will light it, in addition ot the obvious fire attacks. One of the origin attacks(magic I believe) does energy dmg and will light it.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Actually both the Magic and Tech origin attacks do energy damage.
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Basically, your choices for lighting if you don't go Tech/Magic are as follows
Controllers:
Fire Control (duh)
Illusion Control (phantasm can light it)
Fire Epic
Primal Forces Epic
Defenders:
Archery - Blazing Arrow
Assault Rifle - Flame Thrower, ignite
Electric Blast
Energy Blast
Radiation Blast
Electric Mastery
Power Mastery - though not until Total Focus
Corrs
Archery
Assault Rifle
Electric blast
Energy blast
Fire blast
Mu Mastery
MMs
Mercenaries
Ninjas
Robotics
Thugs
Mace Mastery
Mu Mastery
No
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As little sense as it'd make, I'd be all for making the Oil Slick a robotic entity so TA has an internal, if highly infrequent, way of lighting OSA via EMP.
Well, where do you think the oil came from in the first place? 
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Well, where do you think the oil came from in the first place?
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Well, let's see. First the earth cooled. And them the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Well, where do you think the oil came from in the first place?
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Procs. You'd be surprised how often the "chance of energy" damage hits and lights 'er up if you have it in TT. I have it in TT and NightFall on mine and just shoot in the vicinity of the Oil slick. I do have the origin power for backup when they don't work after a couple shots though.
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Originally Posted by Trickshooter
Negative energy doesn't light it, actually. It would make a lot of those TA/Dark Defenders I keeep hearing about happy if it did, though.
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Still not the same as the negative energy lighting oil slicks, but it does make the combo more workable. Also, by that standard you could be using Ice Blast to light Oil Slick by slotting the proc into its AoE's.|
Originally Posted by MikeRobe
Procs. You'd be surprised how often the "chance of energy" damage hits and lights 'er up if you have it in TT. I have it in TT and NightFall on mine and just shoot in the vicinity of the Oil slick. I do have the origin power for backup when they don't work after a couple shots though.
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Still, i'd rather make sure i had an origin power as backup than counting on a proc to work every time i need the slick lit. Faster cycle time and all that.
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No, it is indeed the positive energy on the proc that is lighting it. My comment was specifically in response to the "all those ta/dark" comment. And it is very worthwhile to have the origin as a backup too. The damage you crank out as a ta/dark (with procs) is significant enough that you can use the oil slick just for its sweet sweet kd. When it lights it is a great bonus; I personally find that it lights quite reliably this way though. I very rarely have the patch not light (light bugs not withstanding) |
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
Still not the same as the negative energy lighting oil slicks, but it does make the combo more workable. Also, by that standard you could be using Ice Blast to light Oil Slick by slotting the proc into its AoE's.
Still, i'd rather make sure i had an origin power as backup than counting on a proc to work every time i need the slick lit. Faster cycle time and all that. |
Another option is sonic does energy/smashing if you want your attacks to light it without a proc, ta/son should be able to do it. TA/Rad should too, a lot of their attacks are energy based.
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Originally Posted by MikeRobe
TA/Rad should too, a lot of their attacks are energy based.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
By "a lot", do you mean "all"?
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I know that energy can ignite the oil slick, except when it bugs up. What I meant to ask was is there any thematic reasoning that EMP can't ignite the oil slick, outside of it not being a robotic entity.
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Because an electro-magnetic pulse wouldn't ignite oil?
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Good enough reason, realistically, but then again realism doesn't seem to hold much water in this game.
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How about magical invisible bunnies fly out of the sky and defend the oil slick from your EMP arrow with shields made of smiles and rainbows everytime you use it, thus it can never be lit by it
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Originally Posted by Mock2 Author
Good enough reason, realistically, but then again realism doesn't seem to hold much water in this game.
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Originally Posted by Psyonico
this.
Basically, your choices for lighting if you don't go Tech/Magic are as follows Controllers: Fire Control (duh) Illusion Control (phantasm can light it) Fire Epic Primal Forces Epic Defenders: Archery - Blazing Arrow Assault Rifle - Flame Thrower, ignite Electric Blast Energy Blast Radiation Blast Electric Mastery Power Mastery - though not until Total Focus Corrs Archery Assault Rifle Electric blast Energy blast Fire blast Mu Mastery MMs Mercenaries Ninjas Robotics Thugs Mace Mastery Mu Mastery |
Earth Control - Volcanic Gasses
Sonic Blast
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Hey, you're the one who asked for a non-game mechanics reason why EMPs don't ignite Oil Slick.
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Originally Posted by Mock2 Author
Good enough reason, realistically, but then again realism doesn't seem to hold much water in this game.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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That I did.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Hey, you're the one who asked for a non-game mechanics reason why EMPs don't ignite Oil Slick.
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Only if they bug up and fail to block the arrow consistently.
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Originally Posted by Trickshooter
How about magical invisible bunnies fly out of the sky and defend the oil slick from your EMP arrow with shields made of smiles and rainbows everytime you use it, thus it can never be lit by it
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I was talking with a friend today about the Trick Arrow set, mostly Oil Slick Arrow and an interesting question came up, should the EMP Arrow be able to ignite the Oil Slick Arrow?
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