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Aumakua

By Aumakua,
Posted on: 2009-12-27 18:29 in Everything about PvP

 

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Originally Posted by SoulTouch View Post
No no no no and no you see you were not even there when it happened yet you're doing all this public accusations? you're one of the most disgusting people i've unfortunatly come across on this game.
o i was there for part of it....i guess you kept running your head after i logged of as well. You know it is suprising though. Most english guys i've met in this game seem to be pretty cool guy's. I guess there is always that ONE.

 

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Originally Posted by SoulTouch View Post
she and im regen. and yes i shark cas im bad, we get it
whoa he is a she.....i'm shocked...barrier did you know this, and if so..why was i not informed.

 

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Originally Posted by __Divine__ View Post
I'm 99% sure he did not take a power he was suppose to take if he took phase and hibernate. If it's that big of deal just buy the temp phase power at the black market. Gimping your build just to take both hibernate and phase is stupid. I'm not sure..but if soul is WP the storm thing should not be a problem. And he does not AS...he sharks.

Spines/WP on my stalk and nothing else is worth taking. True enough you won't get repelled by a stormie with WP but you'll still have stealth suppressed. Same with everything else like quicksand.

So dual phase ftw.

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whoa he is a she.....i'm shocked...barrier did you know this, and if so..why was i not informed.
there are no girls on the internet.

now, a little pearl from 10 mins ago:

[Tell] Bassey: can we talk? ,,,,
[Tell] -->Bassey: who are you?
[Tell] Bassey: well
[Tell] Bassey: this isnt my account so guess
[Tell] -->Bassey: are you my fan?
[Tell] Bassey: yes
[Tell] -->Bassey: nope, we can't talk. stop harrassing me. laters.
[Tell] Bassey: thanks :S

 

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Originally Posted by Rent_ View Post
Spines/WP on my stalk and nothing else is worth taking. True enough you won't get repelled by a stormie with WP but you'll still have stealth suppressed. Same with everything else like quicksand.

So dual phase ftw.
impossible.

spines has enough toys that you will never be out of things to take.

i mean, i can understand how in zone it can add a bit of survivability, but the same can be said of invisibility (which every stalker should have), or even the godmode.

did you take ripper? throw spines? those two, when proc'd are better than taking hiber and are generally ignored (i think the only person i've seen with those is hellora's spines/ea/dark stalker).


edit: hell, even the hold with two lockdowns for 2%dmg is better.

 

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I have invisibility instead of GI and i also have SoW.

I haven't got ripper or tro spines but only because you don't need any more attacks than AS, Impale and Sharks. When i said nothing else is worth taking, i didn't mean nothing else was good. Just that in my opinion, why take more attacks than you need to get the job done when you can improve survivability even more.

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CoV PvP VG = Disruption - Co-Leader - Union/Freedom
Global = @Rent & @Rent.

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
there are no girls on the internet.

now, a little pearl from 10 mins ago:

[Tell] Bassey: can we talk? ,,,,
[Tell] -->Bassey: who are you?
[Tell] Bassey: well
[Tell] Bassey: this isnt my account so guess
[Tell] -->Bassey: are you my fan?
[Tell] Bassey: yes
[Tell] -->Bassey: nope, we can't talk. stop harrassing me. laters.
[Tell] Bassey: thanks :S
That's on a whole new level of sadness.

Add "MMO stalker" to SoulTouch's resume.

 

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Originally Posted by Rent_ View Post
I have invisibility instead of GI and i also have SoW.

I haven't got ripper or tro spines but only because you don't need any more attacks than AS, Impale and Sharks. When i said nothing else is worth taking, i didn't mean nothing else was good. Just that in my opinion, why take more attacks than you need to get the job done when you can improve survivability even more.
Invis is almost a second phase if you have super speed. Invis, run for the hills (I like running around that center building in RV, no line of sight, no attacks = back in hide).

As for ripper, good attack but you really don't need it. So I agree with the above. The only situation where I used lunge was when FC'ing an elec scrap(I know, but was bored). He was using aid self for more heal so I would lunge, shark, jaws and impale to keep the dots on. It actually worked.

I think the only time ripper and SOW are in a build is if ya have monies for the recovery IOs. Even then, giving up stamina is a hard pill to take. I run around sharking and impaling and AS'sing so much, I actually have to stop and detoggle some after a few minutes.

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no but according to divine im a noob for having both hiber and phase, if he doesnt understand the concept of a phase kill then hes dumb, if he doesnt udnerstand how to set yourself a hard AS target using phase, hes dumb

@Psycho Jas

 

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I thought I was the worst person on the forums, therefore I take my title from soul.

ITS MINE, AND ITS GUARDED BY YETI'S AND CRACK ADDICTED LEMURS, NOW LEAVE IT ALONE

eparanoia<<<

 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
impossible.

spines has enough toys that you will never be out of things to take.
I'm with Rent on this. I got phase and hiber on both my stalkers. And spines really doesn't have any tricks. Ripper is pointless because you can just spam impale, which does more damage. Trow spines is completely pointless, because it basically doesn't even do any damage. I guess you can proc them, but you can just proc impale and lunge and spam them nonstop. Not like a stalker is likely to be using many attacks anyway.

The main reason I have phase and hiber is that it's a 100% guaranteed getaway. Without phase, if people are on you after you leave hibernoob, there's a decent chance you'll be in trouble. With phase, there's no possible chance to die at all. And when you play a toon with zero accolades or IO's, that is nice to have.

Lastly, some people actually like PvP'ing at less than level 50, for example sirens. With only hibernoob, you're basically limiting yourself to only RV and arena. Which is fine for some, but not all.

 

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lol i was the one who got critisised for having both phase and hiber, and only because suddenly 2 people who are liked are saying they have it too it doesnt seem that bad eh.

@Psycho Jas

 

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Phase + slotted super speed/leaping + sharks + hide = dead running def/con/blaster

About 1 and 5 kills is a phasekill for me. So many times I hear the telltale phase sound on somebody who is near death. Best if they stand still and think they are OK (happens sometimes believe it or not, maybe they trying an aid self?), then you can AS them. Most of them run for the base. In that case, you wait for hide/build-up while chasing them and shark'em. That's why your travel powers need to be slotted.

Impale doesn't have the range for this (mine even has 3 dam/range HO's), but if you do manage to impale them, there's an additional slow/immob for more attacks.

You know, TP is still the fastest travel power and great for catching runners (on my corr), wish it didn't suppress when hit.

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Originally Posted by Santorican View Post
Theres some good lawls in this thread
Agreed.

 

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Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
I'm with Rent on this. I got phase and hiber on both my stalkers. And spines really doesn't have any tricks. Ripper is pointless because you can just spam impale, which does more damage. Trow spines is completely pointless, because it basically doesn't even do any damage. I guess you can proc them, but you can just proc impale and lunge and spam them nonstop. Not like a stalker is likely to be using many attacks anyway.

The main reason I have phase and hiber is that it's a 100% guaranteed getaway. Without phase, if people are on you after you leave hibernoob, there's a decent chance you'll be in trouble. With phase, there's no possible chance to die at all. And when you play a toon with zero accolades or IO's, that is nice to have.

Lastly, some people actually like PvP'ing at less than level 50, for example sirens. With only hibernoob, you're basically limiting yourself to only RV and arena. Which is fine for some, but not all.
Someone needs to further explain to me in detail why I would even want more than phase on a stalker. If I wanted to stand around as long as hiber takes to heal I'd just hide and then press rest. (Rest: Regeneration +19, Hiber Regeneration +10, yep 2x's as fast to full health by resting) I've died all of 1 or 2 times ever from someone going into phase and trying to phase kill me. (Invis and Shadow Meld are your best friends) In fact, you're better off phasing and popping a few greens for survival purposes vs hiber in case a long animation attack is still incoming prior to you pressing phase/hiber. (I've killed countless people with impale due to this as they try and drop to hiber) On many occasions I've had the pleasure of hiber camping a blaster, phasing, and killing them as they bust out of hiber and phase. (the users of this strategy are pretty easy to remember) With that in mind I'd hardly say it’s a 100% guaranteed getaway. Since any good stalker will always be taking Stealth and Invis, please enlighten me as to why I should waste a valuable power slot on hiber. Outside of concern for the super rare phase kill, I'm at a loss.

 

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Someone needs to further explain to me in detail why I would even want more than phase on a stalker. If I wanted to stand around as long as hiber takes to heal I'd just hide and then press rest. (Rest: Regeneration +19, Hiber Regeneration +10, yep 2x's as fast to full health by resting) I've died all of 1 or 2 times ever from someone going into phase and trying to phase kill me. (Invis and Shadow Meld are your best friends) In fact, you're better off phasing and popping a few greens for survival purposes vs hiber in case a long animation attack is still incoming prior to you pressing phase/hiber. (I've killed countless people with impale due to this as they try and drop to hiber) On many occasions I've had the pleasure of hiber camping a blaster, phasing, and killing them as they bust out of hiber and phase. (the users of this strategy are pretty easy to remember) With that in mind I'd hardly say it’s a 100% guaranteed getaway. Since any good stalker will always be taking Stealth and Invis, please enlighten me as to why I should waste a valuable power slot on hiber. Outside of concern for the super rare phase kill, I'm at a loss.

Roll me another J.

@Psycho Jas

 

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Originally Posted by Warhamster View Post
Someone needs to further explain to me in detail why I would even want more than phase on a stalker. If I wanted to stand around as long as hiber takes to heal I'd just hide and then press rest. (Rest: Regeneration +19, Hiber Regeneration +10, yep 2x's as fast to full health by resting) I've died all of 1 or 2 times ever from someone going into phase and trying to phase kill me. (Invis and Shadow Meld are your best friends) In fact, you're better off phasing and popping a few greens for survival purposes vs hiber in case a long animation attack is still incoming prior to you pressing phase/hiber. (I've killed countless people with impale due to this as they try and drop to hiber) On many occasions I've had the pleasure of hiber camping a blaster, phasing, and killing them as they bust out of hiber and phase. (the users of this strategy are pretty easy to remember) With that in mind I'd hardly say it’s a 100% guaranteed getaway. Since any good stalker will always be taking Stealth and Invis, please enlighten me as to why I should waste a valuable power slot on hiber. Outside of concern for the super rare phase kill, I'm at a loss.
I don't know, maybe cause (personally now), I don't like to carry greens or blues. I like to battle to the brink of death or fatigue and hiber is the easy way out. For a spine/wp, hiber and phase are just two extra power choices in necessary power pools anyways.

I guess I could drop hiber for shadowmeld, but then I would be loosing sharks. Even with impale (which has a sucky range btw), I feel like a need more ranged damage. Also, spirit shark jaws is -fly. For kicks, I guess I could have switched waterspout with hiber, but waterspout is a shell of what it used to be and is now very very situational.

Man, in the old days waterspout vs pff toon = lovely. Or waterspout versus fire/ tanks = LOLS. Those days are LONG gone. /end tangent

Also, if you do choose to go the popping route, your spending time out of the zone which is less time then killing squishies or kill stealing which is what a sharking spine stalker is all about. Also (zone again), heal decay is a bish especially after hitting recon and you are still being hit (especially from those nasty earth/ta controllers).

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Originally Posted by Warhamster View Post
Since any good stalker will always be taking Stealth and Invis, please enlighten me as to why I should waste a valuable power slot on hiber.
Sometimes it's just easier to use hibernate than phase. Like you're low on health, and people are after you, and you just click hiber to be 100% safe. No need to worry about others phasing after you, or popping greens, etc.

Also, sometimes rest isn't recharged

 

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Originally Posted by SoulTouch View Post
Roll me another J.
soul touch, you have no idea who you're talking to do you?

 

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I usually take Grant Invis on my Stalker, but I think I'll give Invis a try. I always assumed it was useless if I was at the stealth cap. And Hiber/Phase is nice for an option in SC. Not to mention being able to get away in RV after hitting Hiber.

 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
soul touch, you have no idea who you're talking to do you?
Brb going to care.

@Psycho Jas

 

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Originally Posted by SkylineGTR View Post
I usually take Grant Invis on my Stalker, but I think I'll give Invis a try. I always assumed it was useless if I was at the stealth cap. And Hiber/Phase is nice for an option in SC. Not to mention being able to get away in RV after hitting Hiber.

I use Invis + Shadow Meld as a second Phase... It works really well in RV, but I have Phaseshift for when I am really in a crunch.

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Originally Posted by Aumakua View Post
I use Invis + Shadow Meld as a second Phase... It works really well in RV, but I have Phaseshift for when I am really in a crunch.
The main reason for Invis is the 611 ft stealth NON_SUPPRESSED.

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Originally Posted by Necromatic View Post
The main reason for Invis is the 611 ft stealth NON_SUPPRESSED.
So if I'm unhidden while trying to escape and turn on Invis, it'll help more than Stealth?