2 Charges Strengths


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Lightning Rod and Shield Charge are suppposed to be the same in strength, or so i was told. But i'm not seeing it on my build.

I'm level 39 atm. I have 2 level 25 damage common io's on each.

With build up i'm hitting between 600-700 hp per mob on SC but only in the 500 range on LR.

I was told it was due to Against All Odds because i lead with LR and hit SC while in the mobs. It made since so I turned off AAO and the SC damage was in the 500 hp range and LR went to the mid 3-400 hp range.

Anyone else notice this or are they different strengths? My team member said i didn't know how to add until i told him to watch. Then he apologized and said although i WAS crazy, i wasn't wrong. lol.


 

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Which mobs were you using it on? It's very possible they have energy resistance, a smashing vulnerability, or both.


 

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If I recall correctly, Lightning Rod does a couple of tics of damage to everything in range and an additional tic of damage to the foes within an 8ft radius of where you click.

Shield Charge just applies its full damage to everything in range.


 

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I noticed it on the BM farm. And yes, it shows 2 sets of numbers but added both together didn't add up to the SC single numbers. I'll try other mobs and see if i get the same results.


 

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Originally Posted by eryq2 View Post
I noticed it on the BM farm. And yes, it shows 2 sets of numbers but added both together didn't add up to the SC single numbers. I'll try other mobs and see if i get the same results.
Not sure exactly what damage types each power is associated with, but I'll assume SC is smashing and LR is energy. The mobs you experimented with may have differing resistances to each damage type.


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I noticed it on the BM farm. And yes, it shows 2 sets of numbers but added both together didn't add up to the SC single numbers. I'll try other mobs and see if i get the same results.
There should be 3 sets of numbers for LR. One is the baseline and is dealt to all, second is the one for foes within 20' of targeted area, and third is for foes within melee range of targeted area.

Only those foes that are in melee range of the spot you target will get the full hit which, yes, is equal to Shield Charge.


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Ran it with my wife just now.

SC hit every mob at 719hp and LR hit each mob at 2 ticks. One was 299hp and the other was 210hp for a total of 509hp. Not sure of the diff in numbers unless it's the resists.

But i am positive of those numbers. We ran the whole farm and those were the only numbers that popped up each mob. No biggie, just curious.


 

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Again, you're not L-Rodding close enough to the enemies to get the full (third) tick of damage.


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According to Paragon wiki...the BM's minions/LTs/bosses have no resistance.

Checked in game stats, and they do the same damage, though wow, Shield Charge has the better DPA.

My thought, first, try it on a single target, see what numbers you get.

SHould be the same damage to a single target.


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Again, you're not L-Rodding close enough to the enemies to get the full (third) tick of damage.
I have only tried the toon in farms, but even in the middle of mobs i'm only getting 2 sets of numbers. Not 3. I'll try it later in a normal mish.