Why two channels?

Why two channels?

Why not?

or

Because.

A satisfying answer is pretty subjective. If you ask me, the answer is no. However, I'm sure others were satisfied from the start.

I don't get the need for JU, but it ultimately doesn't matter. My game experience won't be affected one way or another.

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

This is how I feel about a lot of things, and not just channels or things in the game.

I haven't much else to add to this, so I'll just say "word".

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RHM still plays?

The humor: therein lies it.

(n.b.: strato has been seen fairly recently. The other two are missing and presumed dead.)

Sorry, didn't realize it was a joking comment. I'd seen Strato's handle online recently, so didn't realize he hasn't been around.

What question? I thought this had to do with Pum, Rep, a War, and missing global friends.
Some people....

Pope

and pages 2 - 4 satisfy.

Dunno what you two are going on about. So far this thread is still on the first page.

I didn't post the post that you replied to, but, I will say, as much speculation as you made in regards that they posted what they posted, I would think that you do know that there are some reasons why personal/private global channels are bad for the game.

I can't say that I'm really pro-global channels myself. If people want to use them, that's fine. If they want to make their own private channel, and pick who's cool to add to it - that's fine. I used to use the global channel (the main global channel) quite a bit until it started conflicting with the the global friends list.

I play on all the servers, and, for the most part, global channels are really just used as server channels. The only two channels that I've run into that were true global/cross-server channels were global and the Repeat Offenders channel (it is across Freedom, Justice, and Virtue). Even with an update to the number of global channels I could have, they really aren't very useful for my play-style unless they are for players across multiple servers/sides.
Some servers use them for specific purposes like Badge hunting, GM hunting, etc. While this may seem to be a great idea, it is only good if you can get into it. If the first channel fills up and a second is started, the second one has a much lower population and is, therefore, less useful.
Other servers use them for things as primary to the playing of the game as getting a team - I'm not saying that they can use it to get a team, but it has been implied that it is the correct way on that server to find a team. There are other instances of this kind of use, but this example is pretty clear on how it can harm the "normal" operation of the game.
(The question with this one becomes :: if you know about the channel, why not use it? Simple. I shouldn't have to use it to find a team. I turn my flag on and send tells. If another player simply won't team with me because I'm not on a global channel, then that is on them and not me. I'm not memorizing a different secret handshake for everywhere I go in this game - and it pretty much is everywhere.)

When sg's only team with sg members, it is bad for the game.
When you have to be "in the know" (aka know that you need to be part of a certain global channel to find a team), it is bad for the game.

There are new players looking for teams. Most new players are PuG-ing it.
Fostering new players is very important to the game's longevity.

Fragmenting the player base is a bad thing for the game as well. I imagine what it would be like if you could only team with characters of the same origin. Doesn't make much sense does it? Only teaming with SG members or players on certain global channels is far more restrictive and fragmenting than that.

Instead of focusing on how to make it easier for some players to find teams and information, perhaps a method for helping all players would be better.
Unfortunately, the [Help] channel - aka /hc - has taken a dreadful hit when it was converted from /help. (I'm not going to debate the switch here.). Even if someone figures out how to use it, using the /hc channel for finding a team is often discouraged by some players. This is, unfortunate, as it is a server-wide channel for getting help - which could include: GM spotting, Badge hunting, teaming, and relaying valuable information to other players. I agree that it should not be used for general chat.
I have to say, that when I did use the /global channel, I did switch character/server/sides to help out when someone yelled for help against a GM, having problems with missions, couldn't find a team, etc. So I'm kind of sorry that global started causing so may problems with the global friends list that I finally had to drop it.

So back to the original point "Why two channels?"

I think that two would pretty much cover it - /hc and /global.
The problem only having two, of course, is the number of players trying to use the channel at the same time.
I'm not trying to pass any gloom or doom, but in general I think /hc and /global could handle most of server and global traffic at this point - general chatting aside.

I know that isn't want really was being asked, but that is, in fact, my answer.
Global channels would certainly make more sense to me if I could set them up per character or, at least, per server. I do think that they fragment the community.
Global channels do have a max membership. They do fill up. And you aren't on /Imcool if you can only chat on /Imcool2.

So what should happen?
Should the DEVs increase the max membership of globals or should players that are using globals start using /hc (server) and /global (cross-server) in order to embrace the entire community?
It isn't like there isn't broadcast, local, friend, team, and sg channel to do general chat on... of course, tells both server and global as well....

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

If "fragmenting the player base" were as large a concern as some people make it out to be, we were all doomed the minute they decided to have more than one server.

Seriously, it doesn't matter if there are two global channels or 102 - if I want to find people, I will. Global channels don't fragment anything. Other people may try to fragment the player base, but they can do that without channels.

People are laying blame on a tool. People are what cause the fragmenting, not the tool. The same tool that is being blamed for "fragmenting" the player base has also helped it grow remarkably strong. Like any tool, it's what you do with it that makes the difference.

If you don't want to fragment anything, be inclusive and not exclusive. That has nothing to do with channels and everything to do with attitude.

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Well said Missy. I agree 100%.