Traps/Sonic vs AVs (Warning: Lots of pictures)


Bubblerella

 

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Getting the rest of the io´s i need was getting dull and i decided to test my semi completed build.

The Final Hour vs Chimera
No temps but i used 1 breakfree, forgot to keep an eye on ffg and chimera held me so i paniced and combined 3 small greens into the breakfree as you can see on the screens.
Pretty easy AV got him on first try and wasn really in much danger besides my hiccup.


The Final Hour vs Shadowhunter
Much tougher, got lucky at one time where he had 3 stone cage stacked on me.
His Earths Embrace is a pain but i grinded him down.
My strategy made up on the fly was toebombing the PGT when i wasnt debuffed.
Was safe most of the time between all my debuffs and triage
Got him on first try and managed to get him without temps or insps.


Gonna try Nightstar and Siege next.


 

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Grats!


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Thanks Freem



The Final Hour vs Nightstar

Very boring av and went down fairly easy on the first try.
No temps and no insps.



The Final Hour vs Siege

Boring and was slower than nightstar, first try.
No temps and no insps.


I tried Bobcat but having problems. Since its impossible for me to immob her i had to start using purples to buff my defense. Had her down to 10% ran out of purples and stuff to combine and she dropped me.

Gonna have a try later with some more purple insps


 

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Ok got 3 more Avs tonight.

The Final Hour vs Bobcat

Got her on the 3rd try finally. No temps but i used 9 lucks and 3 respites.



The Final Hour vs Neuron

This was a fun fight, his end drains was challenging.
Really had to time PGT while a ranged attack was animating so i could avoid thunderstrike.
No temps but i used 2 blues and 1 respite since i ran into some troubles at the beginning.



The Final Hour vs Battle Maiden

Boring fight, her ranged attacks was not that hard and Seekers debuffed her damage enough that i could toebomb PGT in peace.
No temps and no insps.




Thoughts so far:
Really impressed what Traps/Sonic can do on an unfinished build.
Cant wait to see what it can do once i finish it .
Think i´m gonna scale down for Mother Mayhem and Mayonnaise but might try it with medium lucks
Oh and i should relly gotten the Phalanx accolade before i started this, especially since i only have fakes left haha


 

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Your 3 'main' traps (Acid Mortar, Seeker Drones, Poison Trap) should be on similar timers, how are they slotted? You really should've not had any trouble against Bobcat


 

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Originally Posted by Silverado View Post
Your 3 'main' traps (Acid Mortar, Seeker Drones, Poison Trap) should be on similar timers, how are they slotted? You really should've not had any trouble against Bobcat
My troubles came from her hitting her buff(unstoppable i think?) and got 2 lucky shots while i was activating Seekers
I lack some recharge, when finished i will have about 71.3% and i only have 18.25%.
Standing in melee she also occasionally debuffed my defense.
I also still lack some hp/regen.


 

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Black Swan Screens coming later
Diabolique, had her at 95% for an hour but all that bloody running and pff ******** makes me rage so i gave up. I could momentarily trap her with my traps but i couldnt fo it most of the time and sometimes she just flew away. The kb was annoying as well.
Iĺl just take a break and reset the mission and do infernal(as a av) some other time.



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Scaled down for Malaise/Mother Mayhem
Judging from screenshot time it wasnt an hour, more like 40 mins and this is the closest i got >.


Noticed that i cant immob infernal so he will be a problem as well when i decide to try him.


The Final Hour vs Black Swan

Made some mistakes and paniced and used a large green. No temps.



The Final Hour vs Dominatrix

Boring fight, took awhile to grind her down. Used a breakfree since i was half asleep and forgot to refresh the ffg. No temps.

Well it isnt all boring i love all the junk grav control/doms leave behind

I almost had Marauder but he got lucky with 2 consecutive rocks in my face and dropped me. on my way back from the hosp i got a call from some friends and decided to do it later. More stuff next week hopefully.


 

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Yeah, I suspected that traps as a primary would be awesome enough for a defender to take down avs. Sonic is a good choice as a 2ndary with it's - resistance.

Here's hoping they don't "rebalance" (*cough, nerf, cough*) it.

Good job, keep 'em comin'.


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Originally Posted by JoeKent View Post
Yeah, I suspected that traps as a primary would be awesome enough for a defender to take down avs. Sonic is a good choice as a 2ndary with it's - resistance.

Here's hoping they don't "rebalance" (*cough, nerf, cough*) it.

Good job, keep 'em comin'.
I can't see a nerf to traps for the simple reason that controllers have way to much on defenders as it is. If they did a balance to/for traps, that would be a big nail in the coffin for defenders with GR in the distance.

The only way to make traps good enought to compare it to anything verses a controller is to IO it out ( how many IO out anything?). Once it's IOd out, well hell, don't defenders deserve something for the crap vig!

Now, I just got my last set of IOs and I love my gimp AT more than anything else I've played since my first month sub.

I'm a defender through and though, why shouldn't we have our day just as any other AT has?


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It´s not like i´m doing anything that multiple archetypes can´t do and some even better.

Should have my main account up and running today so gonna get the rest this weekend.

Also defenders are not a gimp AT.


 

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Anyone got any advice for Marauder? I tried kiting him while he is unstoppable, tried various inspriation combination but he always gets of a second unstoppable and there he usually gets me.
One more try before i tear out my hair


 

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The Final Hour vs Marauder

I lost count of tries haha. No temps and 2 oranges, 3 purples and 2 greens
I finally figured out what i was doing wrong. I finally remembered that i needed to maximise the -res to make the -dmg more effective.
Previously i had gone for shriek,scream,shriek,efence chain and shriek,scream,efence, trap
This made me loose some -res and made those boulders hurt like hell even when debuffed by my seekers.
When he hit unstoppable i popped a small orange and small luck so his melee attacks would hit me as much(his haymaker has some wicked kb).
Occasioanlly he would vomit and choke and i used that to distance myself a bit so he would opt for chucking a rock giving me some extra time to regen. He soon crashed and this time he went down and i finally got the portal jockey accolade.




Tyrant next!


 

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Can i count Tyrant as an av kill? He felt like a EB with big restance, loads of hp and he teleports at the end.
And his ai was so strange, sometimes i think he was more interested in states than the silver haired defender screaming in his face and splashing acid on him.
It was like a bizarre parody of Romeo and Juliet.
Sometimes it took 5 seconds before he attacked with his gimp beam eyes.
Very weird behavior, anyway screens:


 

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Very impressive! Can you link your build?


 

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Yay one of my lotg bids filled,picked one of the defense one i need as well and finally got the last fakes i needed for the acco so i decided to celebrate by doing something nutty.

The Final Hour vs Siege and Nightstar
No temps no insps. First try.
This was really fun. I thought they were pretty weak when i did them 1 on 1 but this proved a challenge to cover both avs with seekers by trying to postion and taunting.
At the end i got all jittery when Nightstar Nova(misjudged range)
The mortars and ffg made a great job of diverting some of nightstars fire to them.
Siege took a little more time than usually but i did it.
Also i´m really glad i remembered to put on my ui.
I love my defender.


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Originally Posted by Kreeyith View Post
Very impressive! Can you link your build?
I will post my build after its finished. I don´t like posting my own personal builds when they are not completed and i have tested it fully.


 

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Wohoo one of the purple bids filled only 13 left.
I wanted to prove to myself that it wasnt a fluke and wanted to to step it up a notch so i loaded up Arakhn, Requiem and Vandal which was a bit too much.
I removed Vandal and had some difficulties when starting with Arakhn and Requeim running all over the place and deaggroing.
I switched strategies and started with Req.


The Final Hour vs Arakhn and Requiem

No temps and no insps. Think it was the 4th or 5th attempt that was succesful.
Think i´m going to do some more Council avs and see what they are like.


 

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Well done, impressive stuff


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Vandal and Foreshadow kicked my ***. Their godmodes are a pita. Especially Foreshadow since he spams it alot when he hits a certain level of hp. But he is a pretty fun av to fight against with his unique attacks and his speed.. Got 2 more for tonight anyway

The Final Hour vs Maestro

No temps no inps, first try.
Very dull AV just needed to avoid liquefy patches and i was safe. I figured with his sleep and all that -res he would wreck me but he was pretty harmless.
Gonna try him some other time as a 52+ AV.


The Final Hour vs Mirror Spirit

No temps no insps, first try.
She looks cool but in essence she just another energy blaster that occasionally chucks mirrors at you.


 

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Forgot to post this one

The Final Hour vs The Goddess Hequat
She looks cool but was mostly harmless. No Temps and no insps


 

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do you face all these avs in normal mish or by editing an aemish?


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Some i do normal mishes but mostly ae since i get access to many villain exclusive ones. I restrict myself to dev created ones though.


 

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So sad right now. I had gotten some more recharge and decided to test it out agains jurassik. It was slow but it was going really well at th third attempt.
The debuffs kept me safe, at debuff peak his attacks were doing about 84-90 damage and i was like holy crap i can do this!
Then i got a lost connection message. I waited and i got back into the game to my relief he was still under the effect of pgt.
I was at the home stretch and then the rng and server decided to grief me.

After that screenshot challenge missed and i had lag spike followed by teleportation lag. And we ended up here, with my seekers behind and slow he made short work of me.

16k hit points from my goal.

What i learned:
You need alot of recharge in pgt so it slightly overlaps and more with hasten. lvl 53 manticore gave me hints of this when i tested taking him down(failed as i had not enough recharge atm to go against avs that high)
Challenge is good and helps alot against mortar scatter when slotted correctly.
During other tests i ran Shriek, Scream, Challenge.
Silverado gave me the advice to run shriek, scream, shriek, challenge and that one works a bit better.

So against gm´s solo i will be running Challenge, Shriek, Scream, Shriek(reversed order to keep aggro while planting.)
depending on hasten i may change to shriek, scream, challenge if i got a lot of traps available.
Currently i dont have time to use caltrops which is a shame but migt be able to fit it in my attacks when i ccomplete the build.
I also realised that i dont really use aim since i forget about and some times i have something else to click.
I have 6 gaussians in it though for def and i use it on teams before howl so dunno.

Oh well if i can get to 16k hp its possible to go all the way which i look forward to.


 

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Let see if this works better so i dont have to posted hundreds of thumbs.

The Final Hour vs Eochai
No temps, 1 large green 1 small orange.

I probably didnt have to use the insps but i had them in my tray so why risk having to do it all again.
My main issue was eochai running too far and jumping up the trees. Other than that it went really well
So i finally got my first GM


The whole fight:
http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f63/TRTerror/Eochai/


I did try to do both jack and eo after that but it felt more like i was duoing with eo to take down jack so i quit half way.

EDIT:will try to clean up the first page next week


 

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Is it at all possible to record some segment of these fights and upload? I've seen scrappers solo plenty of AV's, but the defender/corruptor AV/GM Soloers have tended to use pictures. I know the file size is very large sometimes on tough fights, so even a small snippet of the flow of the fight would be very interesting.

Also, congrats on your first GM, very impressive. Makes me want to try a Traps/Son out and believe that's sign of a job well done. (the overlapped triage beacons actually look awesome)


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