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Posted on: 2009-10-27 17:56 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
What the heck is it with you people and factions and tags?
That said, sign me up for the Pantsless.
I just want to add that I resent that the label "Anarchist" has been applied to organized crime.
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I thought they called the organized crime The Syndicate?
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Yes - it should be disorganized crime |
Originally Posted by james_joyce
I just want to add that I resent that the label "Anarchist" has been applied to organized crime.
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@Golden Girl
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We all know that true anarchists are those book-reading types.
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Originally Posted by james_joyce
I just want to add that I resent that the label "Anarchist" has been applied to organized crime.
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Well it had to keep in theme with 'characters from Going Rogue' signatures that both the Resistance and the Loyalists have, unfortunately the only one left was the Syndicate. Still It doesn't HAVE to be working for the Syndicate it can be working for both sides, the more 'extreme' (ech I hate that word in some contexts) ends of the spectrum.
A Resistance member hiring a villain to go blow up one of Cole's reprogamming building and not really caring about the civilian casualties (if they wanted to care...they would have hired a hero) or political scheming within the Praetorian goverment and getting paid to make someone else look bad, since those loyal to Cole would filter word back, it helps to hire an outsider to go and dunk a nun's head in a bucket of acid and leave evidence trailing back to their political rival.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
We all know that true anarchists are those book-reading types.
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Anarchist
Anarchist
Not Anarchists
Not an Anarchist
Not an Anarchist
Anarchism is a political ideology, not mustachioed villains carrying round bombs.
SO THERE!
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Aren't criminals actually more closer to anarchists, as they've actually taken the step of removing themsleves from the structure of society rather than just writing about it? |
Originally Posted by james_joyce
Anarchist
Anarchist Anarchist Not Anarchists Not an Anarchist Not an Anarchist Anarchism is a political ideology, not mustachioed villains carrying round bombs. SO THERE! |
@Golden Girl
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If you advocate the initiation of violence, you are not an anarchist. You are an authoritarian, or just a sociopath.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Aren't criminals actually more closer to anarchists, as they've actually taken the step of removing themsleves from the structure of society rather than just writing about it?
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Of course, I'm talking about formal anarchist political philosophy, not the common usage of the word.
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Citation needed.| If you advocate the initiation of violence, you are not an anarchist. You are an authoritarian, or just a sociopath. |
There is nothing I know about the anarchist political standpoint that precludes sociopathic violence.
I see no reason that I can't be both an anarchist and sociopathic.
Be well, people of CoH.
I think a better wording would be "initiation of violence doesn't make you an anarchist."
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That I would agree with.
Be well, people of CoH.
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So how do you break from the state without violence? |
Originally Posted by james_joyce
If you advocate the initiation of violence, you are not an anarchist. You are an authoritarian, or just a sociopath.
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@Golden Girl
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Cookies and kitten bombs.
Seriously though, wasn't that the whole point of the hippie movement?
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Yeah - but it didn't really get anywhere |
Originally Posted by Morac_Ex_Machina
Cookies and kitten bombs.
Seriously though, wasn't that the whole point of the hippie movement? |
@Golden Girl
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Well, it sort of does, actually |
Originally Posted by Morac_Ex_Machina
That doesn't invalidate it.
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You can turn on, tune in and drop out, but it doesn't really change the state the way an anarchist would want it to be changed
@Golden Girl
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So you take-what-you-will types won't mind "accidentally" intercepting communications in regards to poorly guarded Loyalist caches and facilities (that will undoubtedly have goods and tech far superior and more valuable than what those of us in the meager Resistance could scrape together), would you? I mean, I hope not, because I imagine the undrn3t will be rife with such opportunities for those who know how to listen.
Just sayin'
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Sure, I guess you could be a sociopathic anarchist, but anarchy is the pursuit of eliminating compulsory power structures, and when you initiate violence against someone you're establishing just such a structure. So you can have sociopathic violence in anarchy, but it's not an anarchist activity.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Citation needed.There is nothing I know about the anarchist political standpoint that precludes sociopathic violence.
I see no reason that I can't be both an anarchist and sociopathic. |
I realize I'm being pedantic and that when most people say "anarchy" they mean people throwing bricks through windows and lighting people on fire, and that it's completely not a big deal to misuse the term in the context of light video game RP - I just wanted to get my dig in.
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Anarchism isn't pacifism, though. You can use violence in self defense. So if an anarchist was, for example, drinking on the street (in America), and a cop tried to arrest him, he could justify resisting arrest, even violently if it came to that. To the anarchist, such an encounter isn't philosophically different than if a kidnapper tried to force you into a van.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, it sort of does, actually
You can turn on, tune in and drop out, but it doesn't really change the state the way an anarchist would want it to be changed |
I want to note at this point that I'm not actually an anarchist, I just have an interest in political philosophy.
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WOOT!!! Freedom born, Freedom raised, Freedom attitude, Freedom Server, Freedom for life!!!!
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Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
Don't listen to those fools in the Loyalist camp, their blind faith in what this so called 'Emperor' Cole says that Utopia must be achieved through any means, it's just another form of control, like any goverment and any form of control, whether it be enforced by the rules of society or by an iron fisted regime, is wrong.
But do not listen to the fools in the Resistance either, doing what is 'right' gains you nothing, the praise of the people cannot pay your rent, feed your family or get that really nice death ray that just hit the open market... Pah! They are both idiots, no choose your own path, one that is neither heroic nor a blind follower this Tyrant... No, profit is to be had out of Praetoria and not for 'the good of the people' but for ourselves. Go to Praetoria to carve your own destiny. Smash down those monuments, bring down those glittering palaces and make yourself your own empire, true villainy does not abide by rules and laws but neither does it help the weak... If the resistance was strong enough, Cole would not be in the position he is in now, they are weak, take what you need of them and leave them to 'fight the good fight'. As a mad scientist I cannot stand the thought of helping either side, I will not submit to Cole and I will not submit to the will of the resistance. True villains, stand up and fight for your freedom and take whatever you feel is yours. Down with Cole! Down with the Resistance! Down with this sort of thing! Long Live anarchy and freedom! (this message bought to you by Dr Mechano, a member of the Mad Scientist Union). |
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