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hmm... I saw "Recharge time bonus" in attribute monitor hitting red in excess of -1000% during hami raids or LGTF
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
In more detail: The reason the key is a factor of 5 is due to the way the recharge calculation works.
Recharge = BaseRecharge / (1 + RechargeBuff%) Where BaseRecharge is the time it normally takes the power to recharge, RechargeBuff% is the total recharge buff affecting the power (this includes recharge enhancements, set bonuses, and powers like Hasten or Speed Boost); the value is the percentage buff (eg, 70% from Hasten) divided by 100 (eg, 0.70 from Hasten). Recharge is the time it will take for the power to actually finish recharging. Since the cap on RechargeBuff% is 400% (or 4.00), the best recharge you can get is: Recharge = BaseRecharge / (1 + 400%) = BaseRecharge / (1 + 4.00) = BaseRecharge / 5 In reverse, the floor on RechargeBuff% is -75%, so the worst your recharge can be is: Recharge = BaseRecharge / (1 + -75%) = BaseRecharge / (1 - 0.75) = BaseRecharge / 0.25 = BaseRecharge * 4 Note that if the game somehow let you get to -100% recharge, it would run into a divide-by-zero error. Fortunately, it won't let that happen  |
Real numbers isn't terribly accurate in some respects, I think recharge slows is one of them.
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Hi everybody,
very interesting and valuable info from all posts, but a mystery as to why that mistress of the numbers, Arcanaville, seems not to be about these days. With her unparallelled knowledge and thoughtful responses we sure got the real deal on topics such as this thread is about.
Gone but not forgotten and surely missed
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Originally Posted by jacktar
Hi everybody,
very interesting and valuable info from all posts, but a mystery as to why that mistress of the numbers, Arcanaville, seems not to be about these days. With her unparallelled knowledge and thoughtful responses we sure got the real deal on topics such as this thread is about. Gone but not forgotten and surely missed Cheers |
Nice, Tylerst! Excellent info!
<edit> Sorry... a little late... forgot this was a 2 page thread!
Perma means permanent? No wai! That can't be true! If it were that simple we wouldn't be having people ask what it means! 
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Consider: If you actually had -1000% recharge, a 10s BaseRecharge power would finish recharging 1.11s before you activated it.
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Originally Posted by NordBlast
hmm... I saw "Recharge time bonus" in attribute monitor hitting red in excess of -1000% during hami raids or LGTF
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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Actually, I'm significantly more engaged with City of Heroes than Champions Online at the moment. I'm just somewhat more sporatic in following the forums these days than I used to be. Part of that is due to the fact that my replacement computer keeps getting delayed, part of that is that most questions about the game tend to get answered very quickly and accurately by the rest of the forum community, so by the time I see it its often old news.|
Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
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About the only thing I can add to this thread is a link to my Guide to Recharge for people interested in calculating recharge in tricky circumstances.
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Hello Arcanaville
jolly good to hear from you
Have written (on proper paper, not this electronic stuff!) a letter to that very nice Hero who lives in Lapland, asking him to pay particular attention to the delivery of a whizzy shiny PC to a certain Lady by late December at the latest!
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Of course, in achieving Permahasten, you've already surpassed it |
Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Perma-hasten can be achieved with about 100% global recharge.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Consider: If you actually had -1000% recharge, a 10s BaseRecharge power would finish recharging 1.11s before you activated it.
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True, but you need more than just Hasten for some other powers to be perma, such as Phantom Army. Since I9, permahasten has been a stepping stone to more difficult PermaX, not generally a goal in and of itself.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Of course, in achieving Permahasten, you've already surpassed it
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
In more detail: The reason the key is a factor of 5 is due to the way the recharge calculation works.
Recharge = BaseRecharge / (1 + RechargeBuff%)
Where BaseRecharge is the time it normally takes the power to recharge, RechargeBuff% is the total recharge buff affecting the power (this includes recharge enhancements, set bonuses, and powers like Hasten or Speed Boost); the value is the percentage buff (eg, 70% from Hasten) divided by 100 (eg, 0.70 from Hasten). Recharge is the time it will take for the power to actually finish recharging.
Since the cap on RechargeBuff% is 400% (or 4.00), the best recharge you can get is:
Recharge = BaseRecharge / (1 + 400%) = BaseRecharge / (1 + 4.00) = BaseRecharge / 5
In reverse, the floor on RechargeBuff% is -75%, so the worst your recharge can be is:
Recharge = BaseRecharge / (1 + -75%) = BaseRecharge / (1 - 0.75) = BaseRecharge / 0.25 = BaseRecharge * 4
Note that if the game somehow let you get to -100% recharge, it would run into a divide-by-zero error. Fortunately, it won't let that happen
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt