Removing outleveled contacts from your Contact list
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Dark Ether,
Posted on: 2009-10-16 19:00 in Player Questions
A contact that no longer gives missions should automatically move to your Inactive Contact list. Contacts are even temporarily moved there when you already have 3 missions and they can't give you any more work at that time. In that case, only th contactss for your 3 active missions will show up on your Active tab.
You can't remove contacts from your list. Just look at the other tab instead.
It's possible your current contacts aren't giving missions because you have too many story arcs open from older contacts. If you have old contacts with book icons, go finish off those missions (you will still have the potential for end of mission recipes and end of arc Merits, even if you're over the arc level). Then your newer contacts should give out missions.
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Also, newly inactive contacts won't flip to the inactive tab until you zone.
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
It's possible your current contacts aren't giving missions because you have too many story arcs open from older contacts. If you have old contacts with book icons, go finish off those missions (you will still have the potential for end of mission recipes and end of arc Merits, even if you're over the arc level). Then your newer contacts should give out missions.
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Too many major story arcs, that is. There is a limit of 2 open major arcs, and so far, no known limit on minor arcs. To tell which is which, mouse over the book icon, It will say major or minor.
Also, if you have outleveled a contact and he or she is still in your active tab, they may be wanting to introduce you to a new contact. After that, they should go to the inactive tab.
Though I have noticed sometimes contacts I have outleveled don't move off the list right away. Sometimes they won't be removed until the next time I log on.
I noticed last night on one character that's in their 30's, there were contacts I never talked to in Kings Row and a few others still in my active tab. I'm not sure how it's working, but it doesn't seem as it it's working correctly.
(and no, no active arcs)
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Did you talk to the KR contacts? They may have introductions for you (on hero-side any level contact can introduce you to any other higher level one).
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Originally Posted by DarkEther
I noticed last night on one character that's in their 30's, there were contacts I never talked to in Kings Row and a few others still in my active tab. I'm not sure how it's working, but it doesn't seem as it it's working correctly.
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Originally Posted by Katze
Did you talk to the KR contacts? They may have introductions for you (on hero-side any level contact can introduce you to any other higher level one).
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Not them, but I have already talked to my Talos/IP ones to intro me up to new contacts. And they haven't moved to inactive yet, either. I doubt the Kings Row level 5-10 contacts have much for my level 30-something that the more current ones in Talos/IP/Bricks/FF didn't already give me.
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You should go talk to them. I recently talked to one of my alts' initial Galaxy City contact whom I had only done one mission for and they introduced me to someone in Founder's Falls.
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Originally Posted by DarkEther
Not them, but I have already talked to my Talos/IP ones to intro me up to new contacts. And they haven't moved to inactive yet, either. I doubt the Kings Row level 5-10 contacts have much for my level 30-something that the more current ones in Talos/IP/Bricks/FF didn't already give me.
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This sort of thing happens to many of my alts.|
Originally Posted by SunGryphon
You should go talk to them. I recently talked to one of my alts' initial Galaxy City contact whom I had only done one mission for and they introduced me to someone in Founder's Falls.
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Sometimes an early contact is hoarding an introduction that your later contacts can't give because they want somebody, anybody, even you*, to talk to them. It can get lonely being a low level contact that few players talk to.
*The collective you, not necessarily you specifically.
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Right, I've seen this a lot hero-side. It doesn't happen as much for villains (we get the narfing unlockable contacts almost no one ever sees, instead.) On my heroes, I'll usually go and talk to all the old contacts when I'm in the zone - they'll either introduce you to someone else, or drop one of the "Please go try PvP zone content! Please? I'm begging, really, you'll like it, it totally isn't a huge waste of space!" missions on you. (Can you guess I do not care for those?)
I'm having simlar problems with a few characters. My level 46 Scrapper still has Jim Temblor (first Fauntline contact) in his active tab with the book icon. I didn't even run any missions from him. I "asked about available missions" when I first talked to him, decided I didn't want to do them, then left but got the book icon anyway.
Another higher level character had the same thing happen with Flux in the Hollows.
Since you have the book icon, that means you now have Temblor's arc open whether you want it or not. Fortunately, it is only 3 missions. None of them are kill alls, so it is a breeze to blast through them and collect some easy merits.
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Yeah, once I realized how short his arc was, I just went back and plowed through it real quick. It was kinda funny being able to kill Nocturne in one hit.
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Since you have the book icon, that means you now have Temblor's arc open whether you want it or not. Fortunately, it is only 3 missions. None of them are kill alls, so it is a breeze to blast through them and collect some easy merits.
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And sometimes old outleveled story arcs are a goood thing to have.
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But it is very irritating, you have to go talk to him, to get any farther with the contact that sent you, but as soon as you do talk to him, his arc is open and you either put up with him on your list or run the missions.
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Since you have the book icon, that means you now have Temblor's arc open whether you want it or not. Fortunately, it is only 3 missions. None of them are kill alls, so it is a breeze to blast through them and collect some easy merits.
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Originally Posted by Justice Blues
But it is very irritating, you have to go talk to him, to get any farther with the contact that sent you, but as soon as you do talk to him, his arc is open and you either put up with him on your list or run the missions.
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His arc starting without you having to ask about missions is annoying. Worse is Mercedes Sheldon in the Midnight Club, who's arc appeared without even ever talking to her, even to say "leave me alone".
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Originally Posted by Justice Blues
But it is very irritating, you have to go talk to him, to get any farther with the contact that sent you, but as soon as you do talk to him, his arc is open and you either put up with him on your list or run the missions.
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At least now it seems this has been fixed for major story arcs. I believe you actually have to take the first mission now to get the book icon on major story arcs, but I haven't done any extensive testing to see if this is true. But yes, it is still a problem on the minor story arcs, but at least it's a little less of a hassle since you can have unlimited minor arcs open at once (at least I think it's unlimited).
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Originally Posted by Justice Blues
But it is very irritating, you have to go talk to him, to get any farther with the contact that sent you, but as soon as you do talk to him, his arc is open and you either put up with him on your list or run the missions.
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Originally Posted by DarkEther
His arc starting without you having to ask about missions is annoying. Worse is Mercedes Sheldon in the Midnight Club, who's arc appeared without even ever talking to her, even to say "leave me alone".
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Originally Posted by NekoNeko
Yes, I've been kvetching about this for years.
At least now it seems this has been fixed for major story arcs. I believe you actually have to take the first mission now to get the book icon on major story arcs, but I haven't done any extensive testing to see if this is true. But yes, it is still a problem on the minor story arcs, but at least it's a little less of a hassle since you can have unlimited minor arcs open at once (at least I think it's unlimited). |
As for getting the arcs when you talk to them - I have found that if you talk to the contact but don't actually ask about available missions, you generally will not activate the story arc. So for the contacts that you where given 'talk to' missions, click on them, bring up their dialog and then exit immediately without asking them anything, although it might be safe to buy insp's from them.
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I thought the limit on minor arcs was 5, but they might have removed that limitation...
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Originally Posted by NekoNeko
Yes, I've been kvetching about this for years.
At least now it seems this has been fixed for major story arcs. I believe you actually have to take the first mission now to get the book icon on major story arcs, but I haven't done any extensive testing to see if this is true. But yes, it is still a problem on the minor story arcs, but at least it's a little less of a hassle since you can have unlimited minor arcs open at once (at least I think it's unlimited). |
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On my level 50 Blaster, I think I have two or three arc missions from long ago. Contacts are still there but I had no incentive to finish as I was either off on another tangent type adventure with teams, or just flat out-leveled them. |
Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Since you have the book icon, that means you now have Temblor's arc open whether you want it or not. Fortunately, it is only 3 missions. None of them are kill alls, so it is a breeze to blast through them and collect some easy merits.
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With that being said, if I did go back and finish them and there is a reward at the end such as merits, will I be punished with a lesser amount of merits or awards because I never finished that mission at that current level when I got it? I have also done the Ouroboros back in time missions which I know is helpful when missing certain arcs or missions that you either couldn't finish or you failed the mission for some reason.
So, in comparing the two, if you did do the Ouroboros "back in time" missions are you more likely to get "better" rewards versus doing an arc or mission from an "existing" contact that you still have and if you did their missions you would most likely earn zero influence as the foes would be too low. Also, in doing the Ouroboros back in time missions, you can earn influence as you would be doing those missions at the level you were at the time of the mission. Any additional feedback on this would also be helpful.
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Arcs award a certain number of merits, period. It does not matter if you finish them when they're grey, if you're flashbacked, or if you do them on a full team. You will receive X amount of merits.
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Originally Posted by Fusion_7
On my level 50 Blaster, I think I have two or three arc missions from long ago. Contacts are still there but I had no incentive to finish as I was either off on another tangent type adventure with teams, or just flat out-leveled them.
With that being said, if I did go back and finish them and there is a reward at the end such as merits, will I be punished with a lesser amount of merits or awards because I never finished that mission at that current level when I got it? I have also done the Ouroboros back in time missions which I know is helpful when missing certain arcs or missions that you either couldn't finish or you failed the mission for some reason. So, in comparing the two, if you did do the Ouroboros "back in time" missions are you more likely to get "better" rewards versus doing an arc or mission from an "existing" contact that you still have and if you did their missions you would most likely earn zero influence as the foes would be too low. Also, in doing the Ouroboros back in time missions, you can earn influence as you would be doing those missions at the level you were at the time of the mission. Any additional feedback on this would also be helpful. |
The only real caveat on doing arcs gray is that any that award a temp power normally (whether at the start or end of a mission or whatever) will not. It also works that way in Safeguard and Mayhem missions on the Weapons Raid and Vault Break-in/Smash and Grab. If the mission is gray (-3 to you or worse), there will be no Weapons Raid temp power and no chance of a Prototype Element or Access Bypass. (Temp power for stopping the robbery/robbing the bank gets awarded though)
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That's not true, in my experience. I've gone into gray weapons raid and gotten a flamethrower. I've also done one of the croatoa arcs at something like -10 and gotten the bow and arrow.|
Originally Posted by Willowpaw
The only real caveat on doing arcs gray is that any that award a temp power normally (whether at the start or end of a mission or whatever) will not. It also works that way in Safeguard and Mayhem missions on the Weapons Raid and Vault Break-in/Smash and Grab. If the mission is gray (-3 to you or worse), there will be no Weapons Raid temp power and no chance of a Prototype Element or Access Bypass. (Temp power for stopping the robbery/robbing the bank gets awarded though)
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I do know that if you already HAVE one, you won't get a second.
Does anyone know how to remove a contact from your Contact list if you've outleveled them? I received Crash Cage as a contact in Sharkhead, but as soon as I contacted her, she said I'd need to find work from my other contacts.
On a side note, I've not had very much luck searching on the new forums -- apologies if this is a newbie (or much repeated) question.