Negativity police are after me! Help!
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Posted on: 2009-09-26 12:44 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I wish people acualy gave me red for a good reason or really say somthing new all i get it "rep farmer" "Downrated for participation in rep-raising thread."
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If it's any consolation, I reported your thread where you celebrate having 2000 posts.
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Originally Posted by tuter_king
I wish people acualy gave me red for a good reason or really say somthing new all i get it "rep farmer" "Downrated for participation in rep-raising thread."
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"If you're going through hell, keep going."
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That entitlement, and "everyone is special" and "political correctness" you rail against is pretty much known as the human condition and has always existed. Only now instead of people being considered selfish or ignorant or full of themselves, you ascribe their faults to some cultural movement that doesn't really exist.
Just as you can find people from ancient greek complaining about how children are butchering the language and ruining the culture and don't respect their elders "like they used to," you can likely find people complaining about the same things you complain about today.
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True story: all my positive rep comes from long off-topic D&D anecdotes. My negative rep comes from a lot of different sources, but never from long off-topic D&D anecdotes.
So... since this is already only marginally on-topic, you guys want to hear some stories about my Kobold Sorcerer?
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Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
And yes, I know someone's gonna be upset about me punching a woman, but that's equality for you. If you want equal treatment, you'll have to take the good with the bad.
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Originally Posted by Zekiran_Immortal
I would have clotheslined her, myself. Maybe injured my arm in the process, but ... it'd have been worth it
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Short story: An old roommate of mine got suspended from school for punching a girl in the face, several times. His reason for doing so? She hit him in the head with a baseball bat. Why? Because he had hit a home run during the baseball game they were playing. -.-
I agree with Eisregen, if she wanted to be a selfish, thoughtless, and reckless *****, she needs to understand that there are consequences that come with those actions.
Heh. I was actually raised not to hit girls. Ever. Which is fine, because I'm also a solid wrestler, and slapping isn't really hitting anyhow. But in that particular situation, the gender issue never cropped up in my mind.
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Screw subtle. I would have made sure the little ***** and I collided and we both went down. Then I'd have insisted on being taken to the hospital and made her pay for the medical expenses. After all I'm a disabled vet and I couldn't get out of the way of the reckless cyclist in time. In fact your honor I saw her deliberately aiming for people and laughing as they struggled to get out of her way.
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Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Personally, I would have been more subtle, but the results would have not been, she would have been eating pavement. Helps that, like Zek, I myself am female and there's no social stigma against one woman hitting another.
Short story: An old roommate of mine got suspended from school for punching a girl in the face, several times. His reason for doing so? She hit him in the head with a baseball bat. Why? Because he had hit a home run during the baseball game they were playing. -.- I agree with Eisregen, if she wanted to be a selfish, thoughtless, and reckless *****, she needs to understand that there are consequences that come with those actions. |
Then I could have stomped on her throat and while she struggled to breathe through her crushed larynx I'd slit her wrists and let her exsanguinate! Screw her for having a bad day and being irresponsible because of it and having the nerve to whine! I had to move out of her way!
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You take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have...a Big Mac???|
Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
If you want equal treatment, you'll have to take the good with the bad.
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I think I did something wrong *flips through the script again*
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I like the way you think! Sadly I'm too shy to go that far. |
Originally Posted by Razoras
Then I could have stomped on her throat and while she struggled to breathe through her crushed larynx I'd slit her wrists and let her exsanguinate! Screw her for having a bad day and being irresponsible because of it and having the nerve to whine! I had to move out of her way!
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this thread has taken an odd turn.
Maybe the mods should sticky an official misogyny thread for y'all to wallow around in?
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I turned my rep off the moment that I noticed it. It seemed like it would be ridiculous, and full of comments who think their opinion is waaaay more important than it is. And I was right.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That's actually why I keep reputation hidden - it's not realistic. And mine is positive, mind you, so I'm not hiding from bad rep. In fact, I was kind of surprise it wasn't negative, given how confrontational I can be.
More importantly, though, I enjoy reading the comments that come with it Sure, sometimes they bug me, but at the very basis of it, they are a control mechanism which gives me feedback for my actions, and anything is easier to do when you get feedback from it. |
To confirm this, I have been negative repped for the content of my signature image (not even that it was bad, just that they didn't like it) and also with no comment at all (just a hyphen). I have been positive repped for no reason, and also with naught but a smiley face. The system is arbitrary, and the only reason I pay attention at all, is it reminds me where I have posted and sometimes (albeit rarely) the comments are actually entertaining.
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Originally Posted by Attempted Neg Rep but was only grey
That is sick. You have the mentality of a child, and your post has been reported.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
this thread has taken an odd turn.
Maybe the mods should sticky an official misogyny thread for y'all to wallow around in? |
Now if Eisregen had said it was a guy on the bike I would have said the same thing. My reaction to the story has nothing to do with the sex of the cyclist. It in response to an idiot deliberately riding a bike into a crowd of people and risk causing someone physical injury just because he or she is in a bad mood.
What if it was your grandmother the cyclist knocked down and she broke her hip? The elderly are surprisingly brittle and use public transportation a lot. Would you accept the excuse that she was in a bad mood then?
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You know, honestly, if I encouraged people to tell stories like that, then this thread is no longer fun. I don't care what she did to upset you, or even whether it's a he or a she. Trying to hurt people for no reason other than hurting people is not something I can see as justified, regardless of circumstances. I don't care if it's to teach them a lesson or whatever. It is not nor can it be justified. I'm sorry I have to be quite so critical, Eisregen, but I find this sort of thing appalling.|
Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
Through this mass of people, a young woman comes riding her bicycle, not racing but not exactly slowing down either. There's a reason adults are not supposed to ride their bicycles across the sidewalk or through improvised bus stops. People are having to dodge and dart left and right to actually get out of the way of the ***** on her bike. Until she gets to me, of course. Me, I stare her down until it's obvious she won't actually stop, then I just sidestep a little and elbow the ***** in the chest. Not hard enough, unfortunately, as she kept on going for a few more feet, then she comes to a halt and the resulting exchange went like this:
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Here's how I see things - the moment you cross the line into wilfully and purposefully inflicting harm upon other people, you lose any sort of moral high ground to complain about them. "She started it" doesn't cut it in my world. I don't care if the woman in question was the reincarnation of Satan, himself, there is no way I will ever be convinced that doing what you say you did is the better call over simply stepping out of the way.
This isn't something I would ever consider doing, but even if I did so in anger or frustration, it is most certainly NOT something I would brag about, or even so much as mention. If this is the kind of attitude I invoked with this thread, then I want nothing more to do with it. The subsequent disturbing comments on the matter only serve to reaffirm my position.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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The general tone of I was raised to not hit women, but I will sure SMACK one if they get uppity, hur hur hur! was too weird not to comment on.
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I got to agree with you on this it always pisses me off that some people want to only to the good and if you say well now have the bad they will call you racist/sexist. But now im kind of geting off topic aint i |
Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
Now, if she'd been my type this would have made for great foreplay, but alas, she wasn't. And yes, I know someone's gonna be upset about me punching a woman, but that's equality for you. If you want equal treatment, you'll have to take the good with the bad.
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Yeah, it was sort of a strange pattern of posting. I thought I was reading 4chan.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
The general tone of I was raised to not hit women, but I will sure SMACK one if they get uppity, hur hur hur! was too weird not to comment on.
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| Here's how I see things - the moment you cross the line into wilfully and purposefully inflicting harm upon other people, you lose any sort of moral high ground to complain about them. "She started it" doesn't cut it in my world. I don't care if the woman in question was the reincarnation of Satan, himself, there is no way I will ever be convinced that doing what you say you did is the better call over simply stepping out of the way. |
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Full agreement for the second time ever Sam!|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know, honestly, if I encouraged people to tell stories like that, then this thread is no longer fun. I don't care what she did to upset you, or even whether it's a he or a she. Trying to hurt people for no reason other than hurting people is not something I can see as justified, regardless of circumstances. I don't care if it's to teach them a lesson or whatever. It is not nor can it be justified. I'm sorry I have to be quite so critical, Eisregen, but I find this sort of thing appalling.
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As some old person once told me, two wrongs don't make a right.
And whatever your reaction in the moment, it's noting to brag about in public.
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Yup, that's me. Mad with the power to sway others to mock and belittle those I find useless.| When I see things like that I'm reminded of the adage about how power corrupts. |
And for the record, I would Not have physically attacked the woman in Eisregen's story. I was raised better than that.
I would have sent her away in tears and shame belittling her with words alone.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Now see Sam, these are the kind of posts I have come to know you for. You are almost always a voice of moderation, and your comments tend to evoke a process in people in which they put on the brakes and stop and think.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know, honestly, if I encouraged people to tell stories like that, then this thread is no longer fun. I don't care what she did to upset you, or even whether it's a he or a she. Trying to hurt people for no reason other than hurting people is not something I can see as justified, regardless of circumstances. I don't care if it's to teach them a lesson or whatever. It is not nor can it be justified. I'm sorry I have to be quite so critical, Eisregen, but I find this sort of thing appalling.
Here's how I see things - the moment you cross the line into wilfully and purposefully inflicting harm upon other people, you lose any sort of moral high ground to complain about them. "She started it" doesn't cut it in my world. I don't care if the woman in question was the reincarnation of Satan, himself, there is no way I will ever be convinced that doing what you say you did is the better call over simply stepping out of the way. This isn't something I would ever consider doing, but even if I did so in anger or frustration, it is most certainly NOT something I would brag about, or even so much as mention. If this is the kind of attitude I invoked with this thread, then I want nothing more to do with it. The subsequent disturbing comments on the matter only serve to reaffirm my position. |
I know I did, and you're right. I doubt that it would have changed my actions. But that only proves to me that you are a far better person than I am.
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Yeah. Back on topic actually. Someone gave me bad Rep for the original, too, citing, "First of [sic], this obviously didn't happen. Second , promoting violence in rl is verbotten. Post reported. Now go suck it."|
Originally Posted by Razoras
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Now, I can't drag the lady with the bike on here to prove it, but I'm that kinda guy. And I'm not alone. Take a closer look next time you walk down the street. There's a good percentage of people who just kinda walk around as if noone else existed, and those people with the decency to pay attention have to bob and weave around those daydreamers. But once in a while there'll be a guy who sees these distracted individuals and his only reaction will be to grin and quicken that last step just before the other guy bumps into him so he has the advantage of inertia to carry him into the collision.
Secondly, I'm not 'promioting' violence. I told a story. In the same situation, I'll react the exact same way all over again, but I'm not telling people to do the same. Little difference there.
Lastly... 'now go suck it'? That's the best they could come up with? That's something you whisper in your girlfriend's ear. Which means it's on the level of saying 'why don't you wear the crotchless panties tonight?' Not exactly making me cower in fear.
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Don't be. I encourage people to be critical. I mean, it's not gonna change my ways, but I'm definitely not gonna give you bad Rep just cause you disagree with me (see? I still know what the thread's about). This is what works for me, and I can live with it. Noone else has to live with it. Well, except for the broad on the bike.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know, honestly, if I encouraged people to tell stories like that, then this thread is no longer fun. I don't care what she did to upset you, or even whether it's a he or a she. Trying to hurt people for no reason other than hurting people is not something I can see as justified, regardless of circumstances. I don't care if it's to teach them a lesson or whatever. It is not nor can it be justified. I'm sorry I have to be quite so critical, Eisregen, but I find this sort of thing appalling.
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| Here's how I see things - the moment you cross the line into wilfully and purposefully inflicting harm upon other people, you lose any sort of moral high ground to complain about them. "She started it" doesn't cut it in my world. I don't care if the woman in question was the reincarnation of Satan, himself, there is no way I will ever be convinced that doing what you say you did is the better call over simply stepping out of the way. |
As for me stepping out of the way being the better way? I don't know. Morally, maybe. Sociologically, maybe not, or maybe too. At least she knows she won't always get away with this. Something I already knew and accepted. Chances are, I'll pull a stunt like that on the wrong guy some day and get my comeuppance. I accept that, too, but I'm not stopping doing what I feel I have to do.
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| This isn't something I would ever consider doing, but even if I did so in anger or frustration, it is most certainly NOT something I would brag about, or even so much as mention. If this is the kind of attitude I invoked with this thread, then I want nothing more to do with it. The subsequent disturbing comments on the matter only serve to reaffirm my position. |
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Eisregen, probably the same person that -rep'd me and stated that I was a rep farmer. lol
I would have clotheslined her, myself. Maybe injured my arm in the process, but ... it'd have been worth it
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