A Request concering earning Vanguard Merits
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Anti_Proton,
Posted on: 2009-09-23 03:54 in Suggestions and Ideas
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I love the Vanguard costume; I think it's one of those creme de la cremes of JLove, and making it more readily-available would be awesome.
But how would you justify acquiring a Vanguard uniform without being a member OF Vanguard?
Start earning the merits earlier, but unable to cash them in them until L35 and Member of Vanguard?
At least that way you could have a shot of earning enough of them to do something with before L50.
The last character I ran through all of the RWZ arcs only made it to about 250 before finishing them all at L50. I would have to grind a heckuva lot of Borea missions if I wanted that increased Salvage capacity, let alone actually get a costume too.
And yes, I treated every mission as a Kill-All, whenever possible.
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Well in the case that they allowed this I'd say they let you start the missions in the zone at an earlier level or at least do the "join the vanguard" short story arc.
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Originally Posted by Sigium
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I love the Vanguard costume; I think it's one of those creme de la cremes of JLove, and making it more readily-available would be awesome. But how would you justify acquiring a Vanguard uniform without being a member OF Vanguard? |
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I should start saving this list:
Things they need to do with/for Vanguard Merits:
1) Up the drop rate. Not everyone ship raids.
2) Give merit bonuses for the RWZ story arcs.
3) Give a merit bonus to the Lady Grey TF.
4) Severely reduce the price of the Vanguard costume parts. (IT COSTS 200 FOR PANTS PEOPLE, 100 FOR A GUN)
5) Allow characters of any level to earn merits.
6) Find some way to allow players to use unlockable costume parts at creation. Account-wide unlocks, redeemable tokens (sort of like Vet rewards), or make the unlocks recipe-based.
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Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I should start saving this list:
Things they need to do with/for Vanguard Merits: 1) Up the drop rate. Not everyone ship raids. 2) Give merit bonuses for the RWZ story arcs. 3) Give a merit bonus to the Lady Grey TF. 4) Severely reduce the price of the Vanguard costume parts. (IT COSTS 200 FOR PANTS PEOPLE, 100 FOR A GUN) 5) Allow characters of any level to earn merits. 6) Find some way to allow players to use unlockable costume parts at creation. Account-wide unlocks, redeemable tokens (sort of like Vet rewards), or make the unlocks recipe-based. |
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/signed here too I am not really interested in the powers or salvage spaces etc I just want to get my hands on the costume pieces. This is one of the very few criticisms I have with CoH ... its the one thing CO gets right! At least you can craft unlockables from level 1 there.
I still love CoH though just this little pain gets my back up.
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Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I should start saving this list:
Things they need to do with/for Vanguard Merits: 1) Up the drop rate. Not everyone ship raids. 2) Give merit bonuses for the RWZ story arcs. 3) Give a merit bonus to the Lady Grey TF. 4) Severely reduce the price of the Vanguard costume parts. (IT COSTS 200 FOR PANTS PEOPLE, 100 FOR A GUN) 5) Allow characters of any level to earn merits. 6) Find some way to allow players to use unlockable costume parts at creation. Account-wide unlocks, redeemable tokens (sort of like Vet rewards), or make the unlocks recipe-based. |
The Costume piece prices are ludicrous. Seriously, when the drop rates are that low...
I was lucky enough to equip my Colonel after a few well-run ship raids. But its still a heck of an annoying grind...
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Took it off a dead one during a Rikti invasion. |
Originally Posted by Sigium
But how would you justify acquiring a Vanguard uniform without being a member OF Vanguard?
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Well that's very heroic. How about allowing low-level characters the option of becoming Vanguard "Trainees" to be able to earn merits that can be cashed in once you become a full fledged member.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
Took it off a dead one during a Rikti invasion.
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"Samual_Tow - Be disappointed all you want, people. You just don't appreciate the miracles that are taking place here."
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All but #5 signed.|
Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I should start saving this list:
Things they need to do with/for Vanguard Merits: 1) Up the drop rate. Not everyone ship raids. 2) Give merit bonuses for the RWZ story arcs. 3) Give a merit bonus to the Lady Grey TF. 4) Severely reduce the price of the Vanguard costume parts. (IT COSTS 200 FOR PANTS PEOPLE, 100 FOR A GUN) 5) Allow characters of any level to earn merits. 6) Find some way to allow players to use unlockable costume parts at creation. Account-wide unlocks, redeemable tokens (sort of like Vet rewards), or make the unlocks recipe-based. |
#5 counters my desire for the RWZ to be level locked still >.>
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It's easily as heroic as joining Vanguard in the first place. I always feel vaguely dirty when I pass by one of those "EARTH FOR HUMANS! LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY!" posters, knowing I went and joined such an obviously unsavory organization just for the sake of some expanded gameplay options and costume trinkets. Every hero has his price and I guess I know mine now. |
Originally Posted by Anti_Proton
Well that's very heroic.
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I will just ask; why?
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Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
All but #5 signed.
#5 counters my desire for the RWZ to be level locked still >.> |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I think one of two solutions will mitigate the horror that is acquiring a suit of Vanguard gear.
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Make the Vanguard unlocks account-wide, so even if they're a pain to get, at least you're getting some serious return
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Combine all Vanguard pieces into a single pack and make that a single purchase. It may be expensive, but at least you get everything then.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I like that 2nd option right there. -nods-
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I think one of two solutions will mitigate the horror that is acquiring a suit of Vanguard gear.
Either: Make the Vanguard unlocks account-wide, so even if they're a pain to get, at least you're getting some serious return or Combine all Vanguard pieces into a single pack and make that a single purchase. It may be expensive, but at least you get everything then. |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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So long as they add the back details and the second belt option then I'd go for the second but I'd still prefer to pick and choose for other alts so the first would be better.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I think one of two solutions will mitigate the horror that is acquiring a suit of Vanguard gear.
Either: Make the Vanguard unlocks account-wide, so even if they're a pain to get, at least you're getting some serious return or Combine all Vanguard pieces into a single pack and make that a single purchase. It may be expensive, but at least you get everything then. |
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I don't see how the second option would be particularly useful. At least as it is now, you can pick and choose what you want, so if you don't actually need the helmet (250 flippin' merits), for instance, that's 250 flippin' merits you don't have to farm for.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I think one of two solutions will mitigate the horror that is acquiring a suit of Vanguard gear.
Either: Make the Vanguard unlocks account-wide, so even if they're a pain to get, at least you're getting some serious return or Combine all Vanguard pieces into a single pack and make that a single purchase. It may be expensive, but at least you get everything then. |
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I will just ask; why?
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I feel that unlocking the RWZ renders it not at all special, and from the "in game" standpoint makes absolutely no sense. (By 'in game' I mean in the canon of the game world.)
If you want more than that, PM me and I'll give you my full reasoning.
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Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I should start saving this list:
Things they need to do with/for Vanguard Merits: 1) Up the drop rate. Not everyone ship raids. 2) Give merit bonuses for the RWZ story arcs. 3) Give a merit bonus to the Lady Grey TF. 4) Severely reduce the price of the Vanguard costume parts. (IT COSTS 200 FOR PANTS PEOPLE, 100 FOR A GUN) 5) Allow characters of any level to earn merits. 6) Find some way to allow players to use unlockable costume parts at creation. Account-wide unlocks, redeemable tokens (sort of like Vet rewards), or make the unlocks recipe-based. |
/unsigned for 5 and 6
I don't think that the Vanguard costume or other accomplishment-based unlockables should be account wide. A level 1 should not be able to don the Vanguard costume just because another character on your account managed to join the organization. That would be like wearing a Marine's dress uniform because your cousin is a Marine... it makes very little sense, and some Marines might well be offended. The same goes for earning merits below 35.
So why not allow players to join some form of "Reserves" for vanguard at a lower level? They could speak to a vanguard recruitment officer at any of the vanguard offices such as the one in Atlas Park. You would run some sort of mission and then be able to earn vanguard merits during rikti invasions or while being sidekicked in other missions. Maybe even award them for defeating lost?
But like I mentioned above, you would only be able to purchase the costume pieces until level 35. No temp powers, or salvage bags.
Friends don't let friends buy an ncsoft controlled project.
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I was thinking to give out the whole set for a lower price than the sum total. I can get a full set of Roman gear for doing a TF that rarely runs over two hours these days, yet I can bust my butt for a full week and I still won't be near to the whole vanguard set. So price it at 200-300 and leave it alone. It's stupidly expensive as it is, and I feel that's a good way to reduce the cost without compromising the size of the task TOO much.
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Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I don't see how the second option would be particularly useful. At least as it is now, you can pick and choose what you want, so if you don't actually need the helmet (250 flippin' merits), for instance, that's 250 flippin' merits you don't have to farm for.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Don't suppose this could apply retroactively, Sam? As in, spend 200-300 Vanguard Merits on anything and get the rest free? (But wait, there's more!)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I was thinking to give out the whole set for a lower price than the sum total. I can get a full set of Roman gear for doing a TF that rarely runs over two hours these days, yet I can bust my butt for a full week and I still won't be near to the whole vanguard set. So price it at 200-300 and leave it alone. It's stupidly expensive as it is, and I feel that's a good way to reduce the cost without compromising the size of the task TOO much.
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Would anyone be against being able to earn vanguard merits at as low as level 1 but you could only buy the vanguard costume parts? Just the costume parts though; none of the temporary powers or salvage bags. You would still be required to be level 35 to get the powers.
I'm requesting this for the number of times I've wanted to use vanguard costume pieces at a much lower level. But considering you have to wait until 35 on each character before you can even earn merits...
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