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If you turn out to be wildly wrong about this, can I sig this quote?
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
Right after COP. That phrase is just a cop out for "we wont or cant fix this. but it will get you off of our backs while we work on some other gimmick and dont make content"
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Why MA ratings should be changed from stars to "like" or "dislike"
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sure, but after 2.5 years I have quite a lot of confidence it wont change. They dont have a big track record of going back and updating/fixing things they left in the dust. This seems to be a business model they run with. Rather than update old crappy tf's, they hung a carrot in front of them. And said it was not cost effective to go back to old content and work on it. |
Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
If you turn out to be wildly wrong about this, can I sig this quote?
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COX isnt dead, but the fastest thing that would kill it would be another year of no content. They could do something that shook things up and removed old content replacing it with some new, something that would generate interest and probably bring back some old customers.
Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
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seriously?
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Originally Posted by JamMasterJMS
What are any of these modding tools you speak of?
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As far as I can tell, these changes were meant to simply move the farms out of Atlas Park. Also, for the most part it seems to have worked. As others have mentioned, it's actually easier to farm now and you can still farm the AE. It's just not exploitable in the same ways as before.
Farming regular content, police scanners, and maybe AE in RWZ (thank you devs) makes more sense now. This makes for a healthier game overall and an Atlas Park that is more geared towards letting new players learn how to play the game.
I love the fact that I can choose between running radios on my fire controllers spawned +0/x6-8 or my scrappers spawned +2/x4...or whatever I think I can handle at the time.
All of the customization and quality of life improvements only now have me wanting new content even more, which is the next logical step. Everyone here is waiting eagerly for GR (and the Coming Storm...?). Some high-end raid level encounters, task forces, story arcs spread around several new zones will make a big difference, and hopefully GR will only be the start of new content. It would be great if we could have more content added on a pretty regular basis now that the dev team has grown.
Pets no longer being affected by recharge springs to mind as a recent "stop gap"
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As a counter-point, I remember a lot of people wanted power customization and people thought it would never happen. Many wanted to create their own content, and that feature has been revistsed a lot since release, and while some forumites concentrate on the exploit fixes, the devs keep adding ways we can customize our missions and enemies (creating new exploits they have to deal with |
Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
sure, but after 2.5 years I have quite a lot of confidence it wont change. They dont have a big track record of going back and updating/fixing things they left in the dust.
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).I remember people said they would not revisit merit rewards or only revisit them to lower them, which has proven spectacularly incorrect. (Great job devs, the Ouro arcs are very much worthwhile now, both because I can get XP and the merits are respectable in most cases).
Playing lowbies anymore you just breeze through the low levels because they keep looking back at that old XP and leveling system.
They revamped the Hollows and Faultline and the RCS, added gang fights to Perez, have Fifth Column fighting Council in zones now. They added a flight pack seller to Grandville and FBZ.
They revamped side-kicking and removed the level requirements from hazard zones.
It seems to me they are constantly reconsidering and revamping older stuff, trying to make the game more appealing and fun.
I miss base raids and would like to see the CoP trial. That being said, I think the devs track record on revisiting older stuff has been mixed, at worst (and I would say its actually pretty decent, with a few disappointing exceptions), but understandably focused on where they believe their work will have the most impact.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
I agree. I mean, the Devs even went back and revamped PvP, right?
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Originally Posted by Judge_Mental
Same enemy, same ae mishes. Sledge hammers stun me, machine guns riddle me. Didn't get hit like this before. Didn't change play style, same attack chain. Looks like I am going to have to respec and/or spend some influence to be more survivable. Have died twice where I would have plowed through these guys before. Something has changed.
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Yeah they got changed. Castle added a pbaoe confuse aura to them and some sort of buff your buddies aura to them and upped the damage scale they do to 2.0. from what i remember in the beta forum.
Shame this went live too because if you get these mobs in the normal mission they're in they will give you grief.
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Originally Posted by Djeannie
Maniac Slammers?
Yeah they got changed. Castle added a pbaoe confuse aura to them and some sort of buff your buddies aura to them and upped the damage scale they do to 2.0. from what i remember in the beta forum. Shame this went live too because if you get these mobs in the normal mission they're in they will give you grief. |
They are like gangsters. *sigh*
I like the new versions better, especially since I imagine we may see more of them in the future. Now they seem worthy of inter-dimensional travel for high powered capes.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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If I'm not mistaken, that was an MA-only change.
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Originally Posted by Djeannie
Shame this went live too because if you get these mobs in the normal mission they're in they will give you grief.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
I think the best future I can see with the CoH franchise in general would be a full on sequel. New game, new city, new EVERYTHING. They can keep releasing issues with one day of plays worth of content every 4-6 months (or zero content as is the case with I16) but it's only gonna extend the life of this game so far. I don't know that Going Rogue is going to be enough, but I'm hoping it is.
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Originally Posted by macskull
If I'm not mistaken, that was an MA-only change.
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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That "invisible attackers" thing I've been told is a bug/map error that pops up when you have too many on the map, like say a full team, three of whom are MMs with their pets out, etc.
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Originally Posted by Judge_Mental
Maniac Slammers. Just went back into mish. Something is VERY wrong. Had all the group stunned, only six of them. No other bad guys around. I was still getting hit by some unseen force almost in sync with my imps hitting them. Just for good measure I threw Cinders, all assumed choking posture. Hit multiple times again and... died, again. This is messed up.
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Maniac Slammers live up to their name now, that's for sure.
i would feel it, the nerfage, that is, but i dont.
This is partially why i leave.
no opponents.
(<-----aka bracass, aka city of...) still giving away my stuff, look me up.
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Amusingly, with the exception of the XP adjustments for groups that don't contain enemies of all ranks (and even sometimes in that case), the I16 MA changes have ended up harming the story writers more than the farmers. Why? Simple - the farmers are doing what they always do, and moving on to the next-best thing. Meanwhile, the story writers are stuck with a broken system and are essentially being punished for having custom characters in their arcs.|
Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Every single AE nerf that has come down the pipe has been in direct response to the rampant farming of AE, and more nerfs will continue to be handed down until it is no longer preferable to farm the AE over Dev controlled content.
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What's really going to happen is the nerfs will continue until no one except the "story purists" will be using MA missions for any purpose at all, and then all the writers who came to the forums complaining that no one was playing their arcs because they were running farms (hey, wake up, your arc is probably not that good anyways) will come to the forums complaining no one is playing their arcs because the rewards are crap. These changes are simply yet another example of how trying to curb farming ends up hurting the farmers less than everyone else.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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Completely serious Frosticus. Where are these mod tools? the only 1 I know about is the badge locator one. |
Originally Posted by Frosticus
seriously?
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Gimme a link.
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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf
My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary
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Originally Posted by Dispari
Yeah, I like Blasters too.
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Originally Posted by JamMasterJMS
Completely serious Frosticus. Where are these mod tools? the only 1 I know about is the badge locator one.
Gimme a link. |
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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Apparently this post is "wrong," will someone explain please?
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Originally Posted by macskull
Amusingly, with the exception of the XP adjustments for groups that don't contain enemies of all ranks (and even sometimes in that case), the I16 MA changes have ended up harming the story writers more than the farmers. Why? Simple - the farmers are doing what they always do, and moving on to the next-best thing. Meanwhile, the story writers are stuck with a broken system and are essentially being punished for having custom characters in their arcs.
What's really going to happen is the nerfs will continue until no one except the "story purists" will be using MA missions for any purpose at all, and then all the writers who came to the forums complaining that no one was playing their arcs because they were running farms (hey, wake up, your arc is probably not that good anyways) will come to the forums complaining no one is playing their arcs because the rewards are crap. These changes are simply yet another example of how trying to curb farming ends up hurting the farmers less than everyone else. |
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Fixed that for you.
The Devs don't want you to farm in the Mission Architect. They said it repeatedly before and after it launched. |
The "Touch my Awesome button" ads did not particularly make Architect look enticing. They did not concentrate on the possiblities or the coolness. Instead, they made the doofus Captain Dynamic look like a self-centered twit who only wanted to fight easy enemies and get all the rewards up front. He repeatedly asked his mission developers to do just that, and they rolled their eyes at the idea.
This was the ONLY offical video content on the subject before Architect was released. The message was strange -- not "come do this," but pretty much a straightforward "people using this feature to minimize threat and pile up cheap rewards are selfish and greedy fools we hold in contempt."
Before MA was released it was clear that the Devs took a dim view of it being exploited. So much so that it was the main thing they talked about in their ad campaign.
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
Architect Entertainment. There is one in Atlas Park.
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In different games the devs accept player mods that increase performance ingame.
ie twister for warhammer online. I was under the impression that this game didnt allow that kinda stuff here.
Just checkin to see if there was a cheat i didnt know about.
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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf
My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary
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Originally Posted by Dispari
Yeah, I like Blasters too.
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Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
Cthulhu loves you, better start running
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You are in a maze of twisty little passages