Rad/Pain dom Corrupter

Kaatrina78 · 09-12-2009 10:51 AM

So here is my problem. Most toons I have I can IO out fairly well. This is the only AT+Powerset that is an enigma to me, damage is meh and survivability is pretty bad with the way I currently have it other than having heal up alot. Can a few players that zone PVP with their Pain dom corr, throw me some builds. Not just powers to pick up but sets and bonuses to go for, or just point me in the right direction.
Only looking for zone PVP builds.

Thanks ahead of time

Kaatrina78 · 09-12-2009 03:06 PM

or perhaps just point me in the right direction as to what set bonuses to go for, like Healing bonus or regen etc

Southern_Comfort · 09-12-2009 06:07 PM

Dominators dont get a pain primary or secondary. Maybe reword your question with the correct AT?

Sorry if I missed and misunderstood. It's Saturdy and way past beerthirty.

Ha ha!! I reread!! You'll get more help if you list your primary too for your /pain dom corr.

Kaatrina78 · 09-12-2009 06:22 PM

My primary is Rad blast, as in the title

Solo_One · 09-12-2009 08:38 PM

im not experienced as much as i'd like with mine, but from the ones ive fought i'd say just proc out neutrino bolt and put alot of range into cosmic burst. pain has some decent survivability built in so just go for more HP and it practically builds itself.

macskull · 09-12-2009 08:40 PM

Try this one... could use more HP but otherwise it seems OK.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

rad-pain: Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Neutrino Bolt Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Achilles-ResDeb%(7)
Level 1: Nullify Pain Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(11), Dct'dW-Rchg(45)
Level 2: Soothe Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(15)
Level 4: Share Pain Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal(19)
Level 6: X-Ray Beam Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(21), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), LdyGrey-%Dam(43)
Level 8: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 10: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Aim AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(29)
Level 14: Super Speed Clrty-Stlth(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(34), Zephyr-ResKB(45)
Level 16: Enforced Morale EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Cosmic Burst Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(33), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), LdyGrey-%Dam(45)
Level 20: Health Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(46), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(50)
Level 22: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(31), P'Shift-End%(31)
Level 24: Soothing Aura Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal(37)
Level 26: Combat Jumping Ksmt-ToHit+(A), Krma-ResKB(43), Zephyr-ResKB(43)
Level 28: World of Pain TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(37), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(42)
Level 30: Super Jump Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(34), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 32: Acrobatics KBDist-I(A), KBDist-I(34), EndRdx-I(36)
Level 35: Stealth EndRdx-I(A), Krma-ResKB(46)
Level 38: Painbringer Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Numna-Heal/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(40), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(40)
Level 41: Invisibility Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 44: Phase Shift RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Dark Embrace TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(48), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), S'fstPrt-ResKB(48)
Level 49: Power Boost RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge

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Tokyo · 09-16-2009 12:03 PM

Here's another build to consider because Mac's build just makes me want to cry when I look at the set bonuses.

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macskull · 09-16-2009 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokyo

Here's another build to consider because Mac's build just makes me want to cry when I look at the set bonuses.

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That build is bad - like, really bad.

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xCHAOSx · 09-16-2009 03:39 PM

here is what i run, it is a little unorthidox, but i have not had any complaints or problems so far..

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Level 50 Mutation Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: X-Ray Beam

(A) Devastation - Chance of Hold: Level 50
(3) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(3) Devastation - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(5) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(5) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(27) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance: Level 35

Level 1: Nullify Pain

(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 50
(7) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 2: Soothe

(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 50
(11) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(13) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(13) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 4: Neutrino Bolt

(A) Devastation - Chance of Hold: Level 50
(17) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(17) Devastation - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(34) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance: Level 35

Level 6: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(21) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(21) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 8: Combat Jumping

(A) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30
(46) Karma - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
(46) Karma - Defense/Recharge: Level 30

Level 10: Swift

(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50

Level 12: Aim

(A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 50
(23) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 14: Super Speed

(A) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 50
(31) Celerity - RunSpeed: Level 50
(36) Celerity - Endurance: Level 50

Level 16: Enforced Morale

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 18: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO: Level 50

Level 20: Stamina

(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

Level 22: Share Pain

(A) Healing IO: Level 50

Level 24: Super Jump

(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
(36) Jumping IO: Level 50

Level 26: Cosmic Burst

(A) Devastation - Chance of Hold: Level 50
(36) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(37) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(40) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance: Level 35

Level 28: World of Pain

(A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 21
(29) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 21
(29) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 21
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 21

Level 30: Conduit of Pain

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 32: Soothing Aura

(A) Healing IO: Level 50
(34) Healing IO: Level 50
(46) Healing IO: Level 50

Level 35: Anguishing Cry

(A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff: Level 50
(39) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Defense Debuff: Level 50
(39) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 38: Painbringer

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
(40) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 41: Shark Skin

(A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30

Level 44: Hibernate

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 47: Spirit Shark Jaws

(A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(48) Devastation - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

Level 49: Stealth

(A) Karma - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
(50) Karma - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
(50) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30
(50) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 1: Scourge
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Set Bonus Totals:

21.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
21.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
21.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
21.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
21.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
21.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
21.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
21.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
14% Enhancement(Heal)
25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
29% Enhancement(Accuracy)
176.7 HP (16.5%) HitPoints
Knockback (Mag -12)
Knockup (Mag -12)
MezResist(Confused) 15%
MezResist(Held) 18.3%
MezResist(Immobilize) 17.2%
MezResist(Sleep) 15%
MezResist(Stun) 17.2%
MezResist(Terrorized) 19.4%
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
110% (4.92 HP/sec) Regeneration
2.52% Resistance(Fire)
2.52% Resistance(Cold)
2.52% Resistance(Energy)
2.52% Resistance(Negative)
3% XPDebtProtection

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Set Bonuses:
Devastation
(X-Ray Beam)

12% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
24.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)

Entropic Chaos
(X-Ray Beam)

10% (0.45 HP/sec) Regeneration

Doctored Wounds
(Nullify Pain)

MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
4% Enhancement(Heal)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Doctored Wounds
(Soothe)

MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
4% Enhancement(Heal)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Devastation
(Neutrino Bolt)

12% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
24.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)

Entropic Chaos
(Neutrino Bolt)

10% (0.45 HP/sec) Regeneration

Karma
(Combat Jumping)

1.5% XPDebtProtection
16.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
Knockback Protection (Mag -4)

Adjusted Targeting
(Aim)

2% DamageBuff(All)
1.26% Resistance(Energy,Negative)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Status Resistance 7.5%

Celerity
(Super Speed)

MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
16.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints

Efficacy Adaptor
(Stamina)

12 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
10% (0.45 HP/sec) Regeneration
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Devastation
(Cosmic Burst)

12% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
24.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)

Entropic Chaos
(Cosmic Burst)

10% (0.45 HP/sec) Regeneration

Adjusted Targeting
(World of Pain)

2% DamageBuff(All)
1.26% Resistance(Energy,Negative)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Status Resistance 7.5%

Analyze Weakness
(Anguishing Cry)

10% (0.45 HP/sec) Regeneration
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
11% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Numina's Convalescence
(Painbringer)

12% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
20.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
6% Enhancement(Heal)
MezResist(Held) 3.3%

Steadfast Protection
(Shark Skin)

Knockback Protection (Mag -4)

Devastation
(Spirit Shark Jaws)

12% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
24.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)

Karma
(Stealth)

1.5% XPDebtProtection
16.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
Knockback Protection (Mag -4)

@The REAL Chop

My teachers always told me to follow my dreams. To bad they are all Nightmares.

SonicBang · 09-16-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macskull

Try this one... could use more HP but otherwise it seems OK.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

rad-pain: Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Neutrino Bolt Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Achilles-ResDeb%(7)
Level 1: Nullify Pain Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(11), Dct'dW-Rchg(45)
Level 2: Soothe Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(15)
Level 4: Share Pain Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal(19)
Level 6: X-Ray Beam Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(21), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), LdyGrey-%Dam(43)
Level 8: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 10: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Aim AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(29)
Level 14: Super Speed Clrty-Stlth(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(34), Zephyr-ResKB(45)
Level 16: Enforced Morale EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Cosmic Burst Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(33), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), LdyGrey-%Dam(45)
Level 20: Health Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(46), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(50)
Level 22: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(31), P'Shift-End%(31)
Level 24: Soothing Aura Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal(37)
Level 26: Combat Jumping Ksmt-ToHit+(A), Krma-ResKB(43), Zephyr-ResKB(43)
Level 28: World of Pain TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(37), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(42)
Level 30: Super Jump Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(34), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 32: Acrobatics KBDist-I(A), KBDist-I(34), EndRdx-I(36)
Level 35: Stealth EndRdx-I(A), Krma-ResKB(46)
Level 38: Painbringer Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Numna-Heal/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(40), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(40)
Level 41: Invisibility Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 44: Phase Shift RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Dark Embrace TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(48), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), S'fstPrt-ResKB(48)
Level 49: Power Boost RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge

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Does one runspeed/end cost cap runspeed?

macskull · 09-16-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicBang

Does one runspeed/end cost cap runspeed?

No, but it's not that big a deal considering that when you're in combat you're going to be suppressed most of the time anyways. The only time capped runspeed really matters is when you absolutely need to get away from a situation, but there's always phase or the GvE Jump Jet for something like that.

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

Tokyo · 09-16-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macskull

That build is bad - like, really bad.

Better than your suggestion, champ.

If it's the KB you're harping on I could easily throw an extra KB in World of Pain and it would be just as high as yours. All the other bonus stats are higher.

macskull · 09-16-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokyo

Better than your suggestion, champ.

If it's the KB you're harping on I could easily throw an extra KB in World of Pain and it would be just as high as yours. All the other bonus stats are higher.

Code:


          Mine   Yours
Regen     37.1   36.4
Max HP    1433   1199
Recovery  3.13   3.26
Max end   117    105
Recharge  43.8   47.5
Tohit     17.6   16
Accuracy  9      9
Damage    18     22
KB prot   40     24

So sure, if you wanna get technical, you beat me out by 4% on the recharge, 4% on the damage, and 0.1 end/sec on the recovery. Mine's got more regen, 230 more HP, 12 more end, higher tohit, and almost twice as much KB protection, so unless you have a magical -KB Io that gives you 16 points of protection, you won't get your build "just as high as mine." 24 points is kind of a joke - why bother slotting for that much if it's not even enough to stop Lift/Levitate? Add into that the fact that you took Irradiate (LOL), don't have Aim (even more LOL), slotted Soul Storm for hold (apparently that extra 2 seconds of hold duration makes a lot more difference than the extra 150-ish points of damage you'd get if you slotted it like the attack it is in PvP?), and Soothe and Painbringer are so woefully underslotted I'm at a loss as to why you would have even bothered to take them in the first place.

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Kifflom · 09-17-2009 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokyo

Here's another build to consider because Mac's build just makes me want to cry when I look at the set bonuses.

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oh god you best be trolling

macskull · 09-17-2009 08:30 AM

Tox you should post your build >.>

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

Choake · 09-17-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macskull

Code:


          Mine   Yours
Regen     37.1   36.4
Max HP    1433   1199
Recovery  3.13   3.26
Max end   117    105
Recharge  43.8   47.5
Tohit     17.6   16
Accuracy  9      9
Damage    18     22
KB prot   40     24

So sure, if you wanna get technical, you beat me out by 4% on the recharge, 4% on the damage, and 0.1 end/sec on the recovery. Mine's got more regen, 230 more HP, 12 more end, higher tohit, and almost twice as much KB protection, so unless you have a magical -KB Io that gives you 16 points of protection, you won't get your build "just as high as mine." 24 points is kind of a joke - why bother slotting for that much if it's not even enough to stop Lift/Levitate? Add into that the fact that you took Irradiate (LOL), don't have Aim (even more LOL), slotted Soul Storm for hold (apparently that extra 2 seconds of hold duration makes a lot more difference than the extra 150-ish points of damage you'd get if you slotted it like the attack it is in PvP?), and Soothe and Painbringer are so woefully underslotted I'm at a loss as to why you would have even bothered to take them in the first place.

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Solo_One · 09-18-2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macskull

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          Mine   Yours
Regen     37.1   36.4
Max HP    1433   1199
Recovery  3.13   3.26
Max end   117    105
Recharge  43.8   47.5
Tohit     17.6   16
Accuracy  9      9
Damage    18     22
KB prot   40     24

So sure, if you wanna get technical, you beat me out by 4% on the recharge, 4% on the damage, and 0.1 end/sec on the recovery. Mine's got more regen, 230 more HP, 12 more end, higher tohit, and almost twice as much KB protection, so unless you have a magical -KB Io that gives you 16 points of protection, you won't get your build "just as high as mine." 24 points is kind of a joke - why bother slotting for that much if it's not even enough to stop Lift/Levitate? Add into that the fact that you took Irradiate (LOL), don't have Aim (even more LOL), slotted Soul Storm for hold (apparently that extra 2 seconds of hold duration makes a lot more difference than the extra 150-ish points of damage you'd get if you slotted it like the attack it is in PvP?), and Soothe and Painbringer are so woefully underslotted I'm at a loss as to why you would have even bothered to take them in the first place.

i dont have mids anymore but from that breakdown i can tell mac's will be alot harder to kill from the +hp alone.

if i could change anything from what he posted though i would take a slot out of super jump and put in the 5th performance shifter into stamina for the extra damage, and maybe put int a steadfast into WoP. but i didnt check in mids so i dunno if its because of any caps or something that he didnt.

on the +rech%: at those values and having hasten you start getting DR'ed anyway, i seldom build for more than 40% anymore.

Kifflom · 09-18-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by macskull

Tox you should post your build >.>

i wouldn't advise using it but ok. 39 kb protection, 5% dmg (lol), 20% rech (lolagain), 1550hp.

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Frosticus · 09-18-2009 12:23 PM

I'm curious why you guys all go with soul, aren't you at the DR res cap with free res+WoP?

Is it for powerboost? We did a bit of testing last night for pb+mezzing and it was only making a ~7 second stun last ~9 seconds, so it is getting DR'd pretty heavily (pb+slotted dom stun should be 12 sec).

I'm just wondering if mace mastery wouldn't work about as well as you can easily get up to 20% lol DR'd defense while still hitting the DR res limit and then you'd have perception too.

But maybe I'm looking at it more from an offensive rad/pain and you guys are building heavily for support?

Anyway, this is what I threw together. If the res shield and pb are actually really important then it can be flipped in easily.

I also don't know how well anguish cry actually works (haven't been pvp'ing much), but for an offensive rad/pain I'd imagine it is worth taking.

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Hp	1462
Rec	2.99 end/sec
End	110
Rech	50%
Tohit	24.30%
Acc	49%
Dam	28%
Kb	41

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Altered for pb and a more "supportive" role

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Hp	1441.5
Rec	3.16
End	110
Rech	37.5%
Tohit	17.6%
Acc	9%
Dam	25%
Kb	53.5

Should protect against even Forcebolt. w/o pvp IO's = 47.5 kb (still good vs levitate)
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SonicBang · 09-18-2009 01:00 PM

I went mace on my Corr and it worked well, Focused acc was a must for perception since I went phase as my 4th pool power...and the web immoblize is wicked in zones.

macskull · 09-18-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosticus

I'm curious why you guys all go with soul, aren't you at the DR res cap with free res+WoP?

Is it for powerboost? We did a bit of testing last night for pb+mezzing and it was only making a ~7 second stun last ~9 seconds, so it is getting DR'd pretty heavily (pb+slotted dom stun should be 12 sec).

Free base resists + slotted WoP will get you to something around 55-57% resistance, which still leaves 20% to cover from other means. Mace would be a good choice for a /Pain but I think the reason many choose to go the Power Boost route is because in the zone environment, PB'd Share Pain is one of the only effective heals once heal decay's really started to kick in.

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Frosticus · 09-18-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macskull

Free base resists + slotted WoP will get you to something around 55-57% resistance, which still leaves 20% to cover from other means. Mace would be a good choice for a /Pain but I think the reason many choose to go the Power Boost route is because in the zone environment, PB'd Share Pain is one of the only effective heals once heal decay's really started to kick in.

So you guys play with DR off then if you are talking about capping at 75%.

I though the usual set up was
Travel Suppression: off
Heal Decay: off
DR: on

macskull · 09-18-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosticus

So you guys play with DR off then if you are talking about capping at 75%.

I though the usual set up was
Travel Suppression: off
Heal Decay: off
DR: on

Oh yeah, I wasn't taking DR into consideration. Base resists + slotted epic shield will get you to about 40% after DR kicks in (plus or minus a few percent based on AT). Given how DR works I'd expect base resists + WoP to be somewhere in the lower 30s after DR.

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Frosticus · 09-18-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macskull

Oh yeah, I wasn't taking DR into consideration. Base resists + slotted epic shield will get you to about 40% after DR kicks in (plus or minus a few percent based on AT). Given how DR works I'd expect base resists + WoP to be somewhere in the lower 30s after DR.

Well only one way to find out. I tested with unslotted arc fog (15% res), that should be close enough to WoP, which 2 slotted gives 16%.
Free res = 28.6%
WoP = 35.x%
WoP+epic shield = 42.16%
DR res "cap" = ~48 (half tray of oranges ontop of everything already running).

Silit · 09-19-2009 09:21 AM

47.5 isn't enough to take a well slotted forcebolt - you'd need somewhere around 56.

Set bonuses are important, but more important is functionality - You need to enhance your heals and buffs for range, and your travels should be well slotted so you can better evade/get to a team member who is being attacked.

Try to get around or above 1500 HP, at least mag 35 KB res, and make sure you have enough recharge to heal effectively through spikes.