Achieving Perma-Hasten


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How do you do it? How much Recharge is needed? I'd like to try it on at least one of my characters.
Thanks.


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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Perma

* Permahasten - Hasten needs a total of +275% Recharge (205% after Hasten's own +70%, 110% after 3 recharge SOs for ~95%)
And in getting Perma-hasten, I'd have aquired a hasten and a half's worth of +recharge. Urging me to ask, why did I want Hasten again?


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And in getting Perma-hasten, I'd have aquired a hasten and a half's worth of +recharge. Urging me to ask, why did I want Hasten again?
Perma Hasten is necessary to get: Perma Domination, Perma Dull Pain and Perma a-few-other-things.

Usually, Perma Hasten is a means to an end, rather than the end itself.


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And in getting Perma-hasten, I'd have aquired a hasten and a half's worth of +recharge. Urging me to ask, why did I want Hasten again?
Perma Phantom Army and perma Accelerated Metabolism are wonderful things.


 

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Perma Hasten is necessary to get: Perma Domination, Perma Dull Pain and Perma a-few-other-things.

Usually, Perma Hasten is a means to an end, rather than the end itself.
False Permadom: 55% recharge from IO sets, 3 to 6 slotted hasten PLUS crafting a temp. recharge buff from Base Empowerment station.

Perma Dom can be achieved without Permahasten. 70% recharge from IO and 3 to 6 slotted hasten is the beginning of Permadom, or Permadom 1.

90% recharge from IO sets and 6 slotted hasten is permdom and permhasten. This is Ascended Permadom or Permadom 2.

125% recharge from IO sets = permadom hasten not required. Super Permadom 3.


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Perma

* Permahasten - Hasten needs a total of +275% Recharge (205% after Hasten's own +70%, 110% after 3 recharge SOs for ~95%)
Also, answering the OP's question more specifically, here is the list of sets which provide recharge bonuses: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Category...prove_Recharge.

Some archetypes and primary/secondary/pool combinations are more easily able to obtain these sets than others. Very rare 'purple' IO sets give the largest 10% recharge IO set bonus value and the Luck of the Gambler +recharge gives the largest 7.5% single IO bonus value. For some archetype/primary/secondary/pool builds this is easily obtainable, for other builds without many options for purple sets or defense powers for slotting the LotG's it may not even be possible.

I would advise the OP not to be too obsessed with achieving perma-hasten at the cost of gimping the character's build to the point where it is either counterproductive or drastically alters the character's strengths and your play style. More often than not, just having a solid global recharge rate without perma-hasten along with solid bonuses in other key areas (like defense) is more than good enough.


 

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And in getting Perma-hasten, I'd have aquired a hasten and a half's worth of +recharge. Urging me to ask, why did I want Hasten again?
Because you get an extra 70% recharge for only a single power choice?


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Perma Hasten can also be slighly over rated. My main villain has about 10 seconds of Hasten downtime and it's barely even noticable.


 

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And in getting Perma-hasten, I'd have aquired a hasten and a half's worth of +recharge. Urging me to ask, why did I want Hasten again?

Well the toon I have almost perma-hasten it is only down for 5 sec I need it to run the attack chain I want to. If I didn't have Hasten I couldn't run the attack chain.


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Perma-Hasten is actually counterproductive for some builds, like Super Strength characters with their rage crash. It's also relatively pointless for some builds, like toggle heavy bubble defenders.

I find that around 90-100% recharge I start to feel like I don't need any extra. On a full team I can usually rely on one of my teammates to provide SB, AM, etc to push me to perma.

The issue is that pushing past about 100% you start having to either buy purple sets and LotGs or select @#$% powers and slot them with snipe and KB sets for big bonuses. You can get 93.75% recharge with 5 sets each of 5%, 6.25%, and 7.5%. That represents 15 powers, at least 60 slots, and probably a few build compromises to get all the 7.5% bonuses.

For most characters to reach 100% without big build compromises, they'll need 2-3 LotG or 2-3 sets of purples. Why 2-3 sets? Most purples replace existing 6.25% bonuses, so they're really a 3.75% increase.


 

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Perma-Hasten is actually counterproductive for some builds, like Super Strength characters with their rage crash.

More footstomps.
Also You can choose not to click rage y'know.


 

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And in getting Perma-hasten, I'd have aquired a hasten and a half's worth of +recharge. Urging me to ask, why did I want Hasten again?

And the answer: because until your attack chain is Blaze,Blaze, Blaze, Blaze... you can NEVER have too much recharge.


 

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And the answer: because until your attack chain is Blaze,Blaze, Blaze, Blaze... you can NEVER have too much recharge.
I thought it was Headsplitter, Headsplitter, Headsplitter...


 

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More footstomps.
That's actually counterproductive for my SS. I've got FF+Recharge slotted in it, so I try to wait 10s after activation before I stomp again. Keeps me from overlapping the buff and loosing out on part of it, and means that with 40%ish recharge I'm still pretty close to perma hasten if I'm careful about it and constantly fighting.


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Also You can choose not to click rage y'know.
I always leave it on auto - one less thing to babysit. I've actually got a macro on Brawl that toggles autohasten, toggles autorage, and brawls.


 

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I thought it was Headsplitter, Headsplitter, Headsplitter...
Nah. It's Eagle's Claw, Eagle's Claw, Eagle's Claw.


 

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You're both wrong... it's Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows!
Durnit, now I need new pants...


 

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You're both wrong... it's Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows!
Or aura, aura, aura!


 

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You're both wrong... it's Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows!
Monsoon of Arrows?


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Just to add to what perwira said. You can always have a place for 7.5%'s if you place a couple in a stealth pool power. It allows def sets. So every AT is able to at least get those.

With my wifes blaster i wanted inferno up as fast as possible. I got hasten, slotted powers with Posi's and Deci's for rech, and went stealth pools. I got stealth, invisi, and phase shift to place a lotg 7.5% in each one. When farming with my friends, my inferno is up every 3 mobs with 1 shot of SB. Not sure of actual numbers of minutes but it sure feels fast.


 

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You're both wrong... it's Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows, Rain of Arrows!
That's the best answer I've seen yet.


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