Criticisms & Praise Parades

I just turned mine off , A comment without a name attached is pretty worthless .

That doesn't stop you from receiving rep and comments, it just hides your rep level from everyone else.

Go to your User Control Panel. I can't remember if you had to turn the viewing of them on in Options or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazarus The amusing thing as well is that all the negative comments are from people with negative rep to begin with. That little jellybean next to the comment is what they have themselves, not what they gave you. Was confused about it myself when I was getting comments where the jellybean was grey and I knew that you cannot give "neutral" rep.

Are you sure about that Lazarus? I know the grey one are from people that don't have enough of their own rep to effect the person their +/- rep'ing.

Edit: Because the FAQ states...

Quote:

How do I know what reputation I have received? You can view the reputation that you have received in your User CP (User Control Panel) where it is displayed at the bottom of the User CP page. Here you will see the latest reputation that you have received and whether this is positive, negative or neutral. Your total reputation will be shown as series of reputation indicators in your posts and profile. The more positive your reputation, the more positive icons will be shown. The more negative your reputation the more negative icons will be shown.

My take on the neutral rep..considering that force you write a comment for negative rep. If it's grey with out a comment it was positive. If it has a comment and it's not "OMG YOU ARE THE PWNSAUCE!!!!" then it was negative.

Reputation, very concisely:

Grey dots: the person giving rep hasn't earned enough points (positive or negative) to have any weight. You have no idea whether their rep was positive or negative except going by their comment.
Green dots: the person giving rep has enough points for their reps to matter, and they +repped you. These don't require giving a comment.
Red dots: the person giving rep has enough points for their reps to matter, and the -repped you. These require a comment to accompany the -rep.

You can report your own post if you get an offensive rep on that post and tell the mods to look at the reputation points for it. The mods know who gave the rep, even if you can't see it. They can remove offensive rep, and the authors can get chastised for it, up to and including suspension/banning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

Silly? So you would rather leave some racist, bigoted, and/or anti-semetic rep on your list so that you got to see it anytime you looked at your rep comments? Really? That doesn't even begin to bother you? That's just "silly"?

I said offensive... not just negative, but offensive.

Cos it happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

Well I am coming at it from the white male point of view and undoubtably that affects my viewpoint just as all my life experiences do but I would pay it no attention whatsoever. I think the more rep (either way) and comments I get the less likely I am to even notice them.

But I do see how it could be bothersome to some.

Overall though, I more meant that caring if you have a high or low rep in general is silly, not the specific comments themselves. I also meant that the whole system of Rep is silly for a board such as CoX's. I could see a purpose if it was an advice board, or a how to board... But this is pretty much just a social board... And I think one can easily base how tto judge the worthiness of each post pretty much by that post. On a board about how to fix cars I could see rep being handy so you would know who tended to give good or bad advice but here?

All in all, I think these boards having the system in place is silly. I think that if it takes time from the moderators at all, it's even sillier to have... Of course anything bigoted, racist, etc should be dealt with but in my opinion giving people what they think is a totally anonymous way to "influence" others only encourages such repugnant comments and behavior and should thus just be eliminated.

If anyone cares about reputation, they're obviously far too wound up in themselves. I love that it lets me know how certain people feel about things that they wouldn't speak up about themselves. It's no indication of the real consensus of the board, but there's truth to it being proof that opinions are pretty much all over the place.

Also, I take great pleasure in pointing out that person who commented that "You're not an icebreaker." is obviously eating their words now. People are talking and there's been a lot of discussion that didn't exist before. This happened back when I had my tirade about black on black on black costumes as well. Everyone jumped on me for being a jerk and then a month later, suddenly it was okay for the rest of the forum to start calling people on it.

Hate away, it won't stop me from pointing out the blatantly obvious.

Right now, I'm just on a distinguished road. I hope there's a store along that road that sells chips. Preferably Cool Ranch Doritos.

I hope some day that I get enough +rep so that it says "Turkey Lurkey is all that and a bag of chips." Because I'd really like some chips.


TL

Here I'm away for a while trying out that other game and you guys turn this into 'real' art forum. I like it.

When it comes to critique I can really never get enough of it. Maybe if I were at a professional level and worked for cash I would feel differently, but I doubt it. The people I've seen giving it here, like Suichiro, CristopherRobin, Battlewraith etc, have all done it with great care and the best intentions as far as I can tell. The 'credentials' of the person is not that important, I try and weigh the advice on its on merit first. While someone with training hopefully can give more advanced pointers, a simple 'that does not look right to me' can do wonders for me.

Now, giving out critique is where I fail myself. I rarely point stuff out I don't like, making me a bit of a hypocrite. Often when I type out a critique, I start to second guess myself and end up deleting it.

Anyways, if anyone of you feel like unloading a diatribe on my stuff, it's always available at dA. I promise you won't get anything but thanks.

Funny enough, doing critiques is really draining, because it takes a lot of effort to properly pick out areas to improve while keeping in mind the skill level and willingness to adapt and continue of the original artist. That's why I don't do it much here. If pressed, I could critique any artist, no matter how good or bad, but I don't have the time or patience to do it.

When I lay a critique on someone, it's because of one of two things. Either I feel like the person is legitimately not seeing something that's causing a real problem in their art. Something that could be pretty easily fixed as long as the person is open to adjusting their technique and trying again. The second reason is that I consider the artist to be relatively full of themselves and acting like a jackass who thinks they're above everyone else. Those types usually don't even understand that their art isn't as good as they think it is, because they're permanently hyped up on their personal praise parade yes-men. I critique those types just to pull them down a notch.

"Dear Emperor, you have no clothes on."

You'll notice that I generally leave all humble artists alone. Especially ones that are willing to keep learning and understand that they're not superior to anyone else.

I have people who are always asking me to critique them or help mentor them along the artist's way, because I've gained a name for being good at it, within certain circles. But I generally hate doing it for the reasons mentioned above. So when I do engage in it on this forum, there's generally a strong motivation for me.

I'm surprised that we haven't seen CR in here yet. :3

Perhaps a Sticky Thread for critiques would be a good idea? A place to post if you want honest appraisal. and that way anyone who doesnt care for it can easily avoid it and also see's people wanting it having a better chance of getting it. seems like a good idea to me anyway...

Humble is the best pie.