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Originally Posted by ConFlict
Why should I have to get your permission to attack in a zone that was meant to be open with no such restrictions? Because you are to lazy to got to the arena?
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Yea not like your selfish attacking a somewhat defenseless person for a chance at a recipe and some rep. You seem too lazy to actually have a real fight, you like to kick people while their down and say u win.
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Originally Posted by KingOfStars
But why should i have to make a 1 minute + duel into a 10-15+ minute duel bc some people cant be kind enough not to attack me for a minute?
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There is no reason. They just like wrecking your day.
This is the point i've been trying to explain for a while. No luck.
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Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
I am not sure why I need to repeat what I posted before. It was pretty clear, but I will use one sentence answers to explain the differences between PVP Zones and the Arena.
The Arena was designed from combat with individuals and groups in a separate environment from other players. The PvP Zones were designed for combat between anyone that can attack each other in that zone. It has nothing to do with "being polite". If you go into a PvP Zone, you should know that anyone that can attack you may very well do so. Don't expect people to hold their fire because you want to use a PvP Zone in a non-standard manner. I think it is more impolite to expect to be able to use a PvP zone in a non-standard manner than it is impolite to use a PvP zone in the manner for which it was designed. PvP Zones were not created for one-on-one dueling. If you don't like getting attacked by someone else when you are dueling, then take your fighting to the Arena. Complaining about being attacked in a PvP Zone by players that you don't want to get attacked by is pointless. The point of a PvP Zone is that players can battle one another on one huge map where everyone can participate. This is a very basic concept. If you can't understand it at this point, then you won't understand it. If you want to duel "in peace", then go to the Arena. Characters are free to attack targets that are available in PvP zones and you and whoever else you are dueling with are both available targets to every other player in a PvP zone. It should be no surprise when another player attacks you in a PvP Zone - as that is the entire point of a PvP zone. |
Wow. Took up a lot of space there. Too bad you didn't actually answer the question. I'll rephrase it.
Why can't you hold back your aggressive behaviour for 1 minute to save us 10-15? You don't actually have to answer that. It's self-explainitory.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Yea not like your selfish attacking a somewhat defenseless person for a chance at a recipe and some rep. You seem too lazy to actually have a real fight, you like to kick people while their down and say u win.
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And you are too lazy to fight someone in real zone pvp, instead just hitting some defenseless person who isn't supposed to move or breathe for that matter for a chance at some EHONOR, which you don't get. You are too lazy to have a real fight, you simply like to kick people while theyre restrained and say u win.
See, i can make completely true statements out of posts that are completely untrue and ficticious.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
There is no reason. They just like wrecking your day.
This is the point i've been trying to explain for a while. No luck. |
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We don't want to.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Wow. Took up a lot of space there. Too bad you didn't actually answer the question. I'll rephrase it.
Why can't you hold back your aggressive behaviour for 1 minute to save us 10-15? You don't actually have to answer that. It's self-explainitory. |
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Why don't the frustrated duelists just join forces against the Man, beat him down and then go back to thrashing one another.
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Yes. The people who interupt duels use heavies, summon shivans and pop inspirations. Duelers dont.
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Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
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Wow you out multi-posted me. Lemme find something else to comment on.
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Ok. Please, invent bad rules to further restrain yourself in a bad pvp system, you will be easier to farm.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Yes. The people who interupt duels use heavies, summon shivans and pop inspirations. Duelers dont.
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Originally Posted by Squidlington
I let fiteklubbers be, but these "fiteklub police" threads make me want to review that policy.
Any fiteklubber who doesn't understand that everyone in the zone not interrupting his duel is doing him a substantial favor needs to be reminded that no one cares what you would rather be doing than as-designed, open-zone PvP. (Additionally, I usually turn off broadcast before zoning in. If you aren't fiteklubbing in the very few places typically associated with it, I will not be stopping first to evaluate whether I have your blessing before sending you to the hospital.) |
This is all i ask. I'm not saying you should stop and ask everytime u see a fight (although i basically always do) if i'm in the train fighting someone by myself, and people are watching (basically it's obvious i'm dueling) please leave me alone. Feel free to attack me if i'm watching (usually bring a stalker to watch if that happens) or just standing around.
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Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
As an outsider looking in:
It doesn't seem right for people to go around and purposely try to ruin other people's fun... just because they are "doin' it wrong." On the other hand, the "fight clubbers" are being a bit too entitled in that they expect, nay, demand to be left alone in Zone PvP... which makes no sense. So, if the clubbers would just realize they can and WILL be interrupted and stop QQing about it AND the self-appointed police would just cool it and stop intentially pissing people off, all would be good. But I sense that neither is going to happen. Honestly, I think the "police" have the edge here, as much as I hate to say it. |
No it only looks that way on the forums. Imagine 30 people trying to duel or watching a duel. 1 fc police comes out and interupts the duel.
Who's the bully? The duelers really out number fc police in real game. fc police just dominate the forums.
Not to mention, i've been dueling in zones for years and barely ever been interupted. Even now with FC police. They walk in, say "no dueling" as if they own the place (espically con, yes i'm dragging you into this) and i usually disagree and attack them.
So, personally, next to never be interrupted i can't "realize" that i'm going to because i know i'm not.
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Yeah, it's true. Now imagine what would happen if all those fiteklubbers actually PvPd instead of standing around watching each other - the zones would have a decent population again!
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
The duelers really out number fc police in real game..
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Originally Posted by Cathulhu
A bit off topic, but I find this all quite interesting and amusing.
Many PvPers have traditionally made fun of RPers, yet here we people who are PvPing and are getting more into their roleplaying "Fight Police" then most RPers out there. Having been away from the forums and PvP for almost a year the question I have, and I am quite serious is... Are the "Fight Police" RPers who have discovered the fun of PvP or are they PvPers who have discovered the joys of RPing? HP Lovecat |
I've always loved PvP. Even before that trying to solo EBs (which was hard with SOs being the only enh back then, aside from hami's which i never bothered to get) was the way i would have fun.
I've only realized RP a year ago, but never made fun of them.
As for your question, they are insane and nobody will understand them, haha. no they are pvpers from the start, and if you call all this RP then that came after.
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Population isn't everything. I would have had fun, but that's before i learned that tactics and stradegy *can* play a role in this game, it's not just pure numbers.
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Originally Posted by macskull
Yeah, it's true. Now imagine what would happen if all those fiteklubbers actually PvPd instead of standing around watching each other - the zones would have a decent population again!
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Originally Posted by KomradeKommunism
I love this thread.
It's like asking "Why am I being shot at in a warzone?" |
no, that question is obvious. the real question is "why are you shooting me for no reason....it hurts"
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Originally Posted by Phantastik
I'm the first to admit that PvPers are the LARPers of MMOs.
I mean, you should see how animated I get on the other side of my keyboard during a close arena duel... That's not even acting; it's real!  |
Agreed. Espically vs MMs. Hate having 7 guys on my screen all attacking me, and the fight lasts forever. I basically have a heart attack everytime.
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Right, and "stand there and beat on each other while following some arbitrary set of rules and then whining when someone comes and kills us" is neither tactical nor strategic.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Population isn't everything. I would have had fun, but that's before i learned that tactics and stradegy *can* play a role in this game, it's not just pure numbers.
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Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
And you are too lazy to fight someone in real zone pvp, instead just hitting some defenseless person who isn't supposed to move or breathe for that matter for a chance at some EHONOR, which you don't get. You are too lazy to have a real fight, you simply like to kick people while theyre restrained and say u win.
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No we could easily whip out shivans and some warburg nukes, alone with tons of inspirations, but that's like pulling out tomy guns when u are 3 feet away from eachother. You don't see who's stronger, you simply see who can pull the trigger faster. "Wow look at all that skill, he pulled his finger faster then the other guy!"
Yes, i'm too lazy to kill someone when they are weakned, because that takes a lot more time and work then killing someone at full health. Sarcasm...
No, kicking someone while they are restained is what you do. You like an unfair match with the odds in your favour. You don't like a challenge, you like winning under any circumstance and think your better.
and no, you can't with my posts.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
No we could easily whip out shivans and some warburg nukes, alone with tons of inspirations, but that's like pulling out tomy guns when u are 3 feet away from eachother. You don't see who's stronger, you simply see who can pull the trigger faster. "Wow look at all that skill, he pulled his finger faster then the other guy!"
Yes, i'm too lazy to kill someone when they are weakned, because that takes a lot more time and work then killing someone at full health. Sarcasm... No, kicking someone while they are restained is what you do. You like an unfair match with the odds in your favour. You don't like a challenge, you like winning under any circumstance and think your better. and no, you can't with my posts. |
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Yes. The people who interupt duels use heavies, summon shivans and pop inspirations. Duelers dont.
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lol, ok baddo. GUYS THIS IS SO SERIOUS PVP IN A VIDEOGAME IS LIKE FIGHTING SOMEONE IN REAL LIFE
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
No we could easily whip out shivans and some warburg nukes, alone with tons of inspirations, but that's like pulling out tomy guns when u are 3 feet away from eachother. You don't see who's stronger, you simply see who can pull the trigger faster. "Wow look at all that skill, he pulled his finger faster then the other guy!"
Yes, i'm too lazy to kill someone when they are weakned, because that takes a lot more time and work then killing someone at full health. Sarcasm... No, kicking someone while they are restained is what you do. You like an unfair match with the odds in your favour. You don't like a challenge, you like winning under any circumstance and think your better. and no, you can't with my posts. |
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Originally Posted by macskull
Right, and "stand there and beat on each other while following some arbitrary set of rules and then whining when someone comes and kills us" is neither tactical nor strategic.
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I don't whine, i argue. Whineing is more a personality thing, i've seen fc police do the same.
Yes, the set of rules balance the broken pvp we have today. We know what we want more then the devs do. We took pvp into our own hands and made it better (for people like me) by setting up these rules.
Yea i guess u can call a taunting/kiting/phasing fire brute a tactical approach, but i see it more like the germans using poisonous gas. More of something to laugh at because they are weak and need to break rules (The rules of war...made up mind you, as ALL rules are)
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well nothing left to respond too. You have nothing to argue anymore, just throwing out any witty comments that cross your mind. I'll give you a day to think, i'll be back tomorrow.
night
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I love this thread.
It's like asking "Why am I being shot at in a warzone?"
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