Self Heal - Why don't some of you have it?

See, I like both side of this discussion. With a good build though that is alot of INF to build up in order to get IO'ed out. Some people will say "play the market and you luck up on something. Be patient" I have like about 100+ mill in influence spread amongst all my lvl 50s. But these days the market is ruthless. Maybe a market reset or something is in need. I don't know if they do that. I've been doing numerous boss farms to try to come up on some good finds in the AE vendor store. Haven't seen much that would go into my scrapper build.

FYI, I haven't tapped much into the AV killing. I've only fought a few, but would like to get more into it. And I wouldn't really solo either, my GF plays support roles alot so it would at the very least be duo-ing an AV.

I've found a nice love for tanking mainly because I think alot of tanks out there suck so I show em how I gets down, but I love scrappers as well. I want to get just ONE AV killer and Task force type. My DM/SR is 50 and is nice. My DB/SR is coming along. I also have a BS/DA at lvl 30, but I haven't really taken a firm liking to him because he is an end hog.

All in all I guess the majority of you would say save up, get IO'ed out, skip aid self. I'll spend my millions and see where it gets me.

If a build has a self heal, I pick that up.

However I have never felt the need, solo or team, to take the Aid Self on any AT. And on a scrapper? That's revokes my union card,... or something... doesn't it?

I always pick a self-heal. I just like to be completly self-sufficient and greens can go in short supply in stress situations. But I also like to push the envelope.

That said if I didn't insist in being self-sufficient like having endurance for my use, enough recharge for my attack chains, heals, all of it who can or not be available in a team, then aid-self is a bit sucky. Slow to go off and interruptible plus the big lapse of time in which we can't attack even if we can move around.

But, for when we have no healer in the team, when we're getting slapped by hard mobs, when we've used our greens and don't want to trust the random number generator when hitting half HP? Then yeah.

The simple answer is that a self heal isn't actually needed. The complex answer is that many builds can completely ignore Aid Self because they've got enough passive damage recovery on their own, and Aid Self is just an easy, powerful way to increase your damage recovery by eating into your damage dealing abilities.

*/SR and */SD are both more than capable of obtaining more than 25 hp/sec passive regenerations (base regen is 5.575 hp/sec) thanks to +hp and +regen, which renders most need for a self heal largely unneeded. Of course, there will be times when you're facing 16 rabid Cimerorans and really wish you had a self heal to make sure you survive through the inevitable truck powered hit that will be coming your way every 5 seconds or so, but there isn't any guarantee that Aid Self would actually keep you standing.

Some people prefer paying for a little extra survivability. Some people prefer to continuously Scrap rather than stopping to apply band-aids every time they get hit. It's all a matter of preference.

I mostly solo, so it's not relying on teammates to heal me. In fact, on my Ninjitsu Stalker, which is an alternate version of the same character, I have a heal, and enjoy the options it gives me, so it's not that I think heals are useless. You learn how to work around it, though.

In my case, I'm MA/SR, but I have kind of an unusual build. I don't really trust Defense for much the reason you give, it can fail suddenly. So I use Cobra Strike and Intimidate for additional mitigation, and as a fall back in case of emergencies. If I get hit that hard, I can stun the foe and take him out without using an inspiration, or maybe using one instead of two.

It does come down to greens, though. I rarely if ever need blues, so I just trade them in 3 to 1. (That was sure a useful addition to the game ) And if I have to, I'll Rest. It's not like I'm slowing down a team when I'm solo.

On a team, I just make sure I'm not the guy people are firing at, if nobody has a heal. My FF Defender is pretty much the same thing.

I like Aid Self on my BS/SR, its about the quickest animation it has......... It helps though with my general lack of any other form of mitigation. It was a cheap build made to soft cap to fit a concept and not tinkered with at all once 50.

My DM/SR wouldn't need it, even though my Siphon Life has no heal slotting in it at all. Have tohit debuffs, imobs, fear and a top up heal. My BS/SR just has KD really, doesn't compare IMO

Would I take it on DB? Well to start with I wouldn't play one due to what I feel are very ugly animations. My Ice/DB was horrible enough and I couldn't seen most of them cause of the mobs surrounding me. But do I feel a heal is needed with DB? Not really, have Weaken and Sweep. Using them, greens and some regen you should be fine. I probably wouldn't want to Solo an AV without it (cause the above attacks would be out for a start) but for general play, and large spawns, seems fine to me.

A scrapper built for maximum surviviabilty is peforming his job less effectively then a scrapper built for maximum damage anytime the damage scrapper has at least 1 hitpoint.

I've never taken Aid Self and I never will. I don't like using a power pool and two choices for it. I like to take Fighting, Fitness, Leaping, and Speed for my scrappers.

Aid self is completely unsuited to my playstyle on melee characters (although I do have it on a few squishies), and doesn't fit into already tight builds.

Besides, I like living dangerously.

Bill Z Bubba and Shred_Monkey, you two speak what a scrapper is. Thank you my brothers. You made this scrapper proud to be one. Okay back to pwning those spider troops in Warburg missions on Test.

I would love to avoid aid self on some builds... but i found i always need it sooner or later. I don't like relying on green inspirations, they don't drop that often and usually when i need a heal, inspirations are not enough. However i'll have to try some +regen build instead for something /shield or /SR. I'm now addicted to combat jumping + superspeed + hurdle for moving around, that's 3 power pools, last one has to be either tough/weave OR aid self...

Well, after being one of two scrappers on a defeat-laden speed ITF run last night, I've decided to take another look at Self Heal for my secondary build. I've given up on trying to PvP with my BS/SR scrapper, so now I'm going to make him as survivable as possible. 'Twill be fun

Because walkie-talkies that heal me are dumb. I took tough/weave instead.

Why not have a self heal? Cause I got that useless healing sidekick always around..... XD j/k but I got two reasons why.

1) I have always believed on the age old idea of I kill them before they kill me.

2) Cause they have no end to attack me with? (EM for the win.)