Oh and don't forget that BMT had a conspiracy against Felecia by making her fail Task Forces...
Member of The Stoned Templars
"If you can't eat it or smoke it, I'm not paying $100 for it" - Cherry Cupcakes
and truth be told, guys in my sg had been pushing me to just break it all together after this stunt during the raid.. I however, like to see the good in people and not create conflict.
i hate it when they are right.
OMG! This thread is eating up my lunch hour with it's deliciousness! Thanks for renewing my faith that Champion is the "drama" server. Now I can rest easy at night. 
Phantom Flight / Villainous Llewthorous
@TFury
@T.Fury
I don't like to stir up the dust a whole lot, but I have to comment.
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Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
The EXACT MESSAGE i got from Cherry-2000 was "i am dropping 3 AOW divisions because we do not see very many messages in coalition and want to make room for some friends sg's"
There is no-one or supergroup that would NOT take offence to this kind of message, so for all of you to attack my character, shows a lack of your own, i am trying to look out for the best interests of our group. |
I don't know any sg leader or member of an sg that would be offended by what was quoted above, I know I sure wouldn't, especially given --
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Oh, well, in that case, she would be correct. Cobalt had the Pingus kidnap Battling Beastman just prior to a Manticore TF, and we all know you can't possibly complete a Task Force without him.
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Originally Posted by Jonnie_Neutron
Oh and don't forget that BMT had a conspiracy against Felecia by making her fail Task Forces...
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@Celestial Lord and @Celestial Lord Too
Felecia- I know you won't listen to me, but I feel the need to say this anyway.
As someone who has had moods swings about the server, there is one thing that I've learned that has saved my butt on more than one occasion- learn when to shut up. The hole you are digging for yourself is going to China, and when you keep spouting off about your intentions, and how horrible the server/other sgs/etc. are, and how everyone is sooo mean to you... you only defeat yourself.
The drama might be fun for a while, but please, just shut up already. And I'll do the same and not say anything more about this dramatic episode on Champion server.
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In further chat i asked her what 1 or 2 divisions would be best to drop. I dont need 7 divisions of AOW's sg.. considering they dont even have enough active members for 1.. let alone 7 and now wanting to expand to 11. |
Originally Posted by Celestial_Lad
I don't like to stir up the dust a whole lot, but I have to comment.
I don't know any sg leader or member of an sg that would be offended by what was quoted above, I know I sure wouldn't, especially given -- id like to leave the main 2 divisions on AOW on coalition tho. Maybe 3 I thought we went through Narcissism 101 with that other guy? I guess not everyone took notes. |
I wasnt antagonistic or rude about it. I happen to be friendly with a lot of their members and i simply didnt appreciate the lies being told.
you've missed a lot.
There was a lenghty post on her sg's website about what I said.
Im clearing up all the mis-quoting. When someone says "exact words" they better be just that.
The whole issue and the things she has said to her members both on her site and local /broadcast regarding both myself and my sg is what has me offended.
Re: being narcissistic..
was this directed towards myself or felecia?
edited: narcissistic - no
Dumb blonde moment in reading lads post wrong: YEP.
sorry, lad.
kinda having a rough morning.
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Wow, this thread is really delivering!
While I am thinking about it, for those of you that have left AOW....there are LOTS of very good SG's on Champion. Both large and small. HOJ, UHB, Pingus, RDLV and of course LES to name a few off the top of my head. Of course the Pingus are all ******** but atleast they admit it. :-) Point is there are hundreds of SG's that have integrity, don't have psycho leaders, don't make their members recruit or farm for prestige (Gads I thought the last major sweat shop left Champion a few months ago). |
Emprad and I have actually started up a group for ex-AOW members because for the most part, everyone is a great player. So if we actually concentrate everyone in 1 sg instead of....11 (felecia's plan).....we will have a pretty good group
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Sadly you are wrong. Somehow or another talking trash, offending the community, alienating the group from the community and playing the "everyone hates me and is out to get "US" card works well for building extremely large and dedicated SG's. Look at past history.
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Originally Posted by Talon_Arsenal
Felecia- I know you won't listen to me, but I feel the need to say this anyway.
As someone who has had moods swings about the server, there is one thing that I've learned that has saved my butt on more than one occasion- learn when to shut up. The hole you are digging for yourself is going to China, and when you keep spouting off about your intentions, and how horrible the server/other sgs/etc. are, and how everyone is sooo mean to you... you only defeat yourself. The drama might be fun for a while, but please, just shut up already. And I'll do the same and not say anything more about this dramatic episode on Champion server. |
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Oh, well, in that case, she would be correct. Cobalt had the Pingus kidnap Battling Beastman just prior to a Manticore TF, and we all know you can't possibly complete a Task Force without him.
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And what's this Blueman Group that was mentioned earlier as an SG?
Oh yeah, and this thread delivers.
"Champion (the Community Server... or GTFO) is like a small town where everyone knows each other's names, for better or worse." -kojirodensetsu.
"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." - Maslow's Hammer
Felecia wants a big girl supergroup with 11 divisions but she can't handle one...
This kind of stuff makes me warm and tingly inside...Felecia. You know, the multipersonality crazy random posts about how much everyone sucks. Oh so warm and tingly..
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
Sadly you are wrong. Somehow or another talking trash, offending the community, alienating the group from the community and playing the "everyone hates me and is out to get "US" card works well for building extremely large and dedicated SG's. Look at past history.
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Yeah, yeah, I said I'd shut up. I'm a law student, let me a lie a little now before it's too late.
Am I the only person that thinks 11 divisions is entirely too ironic?
* On a side note that is retarded. Every large SG on this server can tell you that eventhough they may have 3-5 divisions for alt storage they only really have enough people for one division, two tops.
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Actually only a couple of people say they have quit. The past history SG I was referencing had the same type of posts and occassionally people quitting. Sadly though with every 1 lost there was 10 more gained from the "we are the underdog" card being played.
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Originally Posted by Talon_Arsenal
But it doesn't seem to be working this time- or at least all the posts from people saying that they've quit her sg indicate that it isn't working.
Yeah, yeah, I said I'd shut up. I'm a law student, let me a lie a little now before it's too late. |
Believe me I have left Stryke Force in the past of my own accord, eventually if I am at my whits end I'll let Felecia and a few others know when or if and why I am leaving. No that does not mean I am taking me leave at this time. Nor do I have plans to leave. I have seen my share of "drama" and I supposed for a lack of a better word "cat fights" between AOW and other SG's (yes also with female leaders) I just remain in my little corner avoid sides and say my peace.
Yes I am in this game to meet new interesting players and make any friends I can, but don't judge me based on others in my SG. I don't do that to others therefore I don't expect that kind of judgement on me. Yes I think some of our members definately need to take a look at how they react to cetain situations and how they act and play in general but who the heck am I to tell them how to play this is all just a "game" intendid for having "fun". So can everyone just shut up, sit down and enjoy themselves weather it is on a team, solo or whatever.
Darn it people do I have to make this statement to all or what ? Don't make me be that person. =P
(Side Note) For those of you that don't know me I was Toxic Striker from SF my first champion toon and level 50. I have been most recently all over the place playing as Rawk Fist, still not ringing any bells well that is because when I am on the server I just play enjoy myself and the game and enjoying the company of anyone that picks me up on a team or that I end up forming a team with.
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Originally Posted by ToxicStriker
Believe me I have left Stryke Force in the past of my own accord, eventually if I am at my whits end I'll let Felecia and a few others know when or if and why I am leaving. No that does not mean I am taking me leave at this time. Nor do I have plans to leave. I have seen my share of "drama" and I supposed for a lack of a better word "cat fights" between AOW and other SG's (yes also with female leaders) I just remain in my little corner avoid sides and say my peace.
Yes I am in this game to meet new interesting players and make any friends I can, but don't judge me based on others in my SG. I don't do that to others therefore I don't expect that kind of judgement on me. Yes I think some of our members definately need to take a look at how they react to cetain situations and how they act and play in general but who the heck am I to tell them how to play this is all just a "game" intendid for having "fun". So can everyone just shut up, sit down and enjoy themselves weather it is on a team, solo or whatever. Darn it people do I have to make this statement to all or what ? Don't make me be that person. =P (Side Note) For those of you that don't know me I was Toxic Striker from SF my first champion toon and level 50. I have been most recently all over the place playing as Rawk Fist, still not ringing any bells well that is because when I am on the server I just play enjoy myself and the game and enjoying the company of anyone that picks me up on a team or that I end up forming a team with. |
If you surround yourselves with prostitutes or druggies in real life everyone is going to assume that is what you are. That doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. If you work for some dude that is selling child pornography, and you know he is doing it, just because you don't buy it or sell it doesn't mean you don't stand the chance of going to jail as well. Of course extreme examples, but you get the point.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm trying real hard to keep those that earn their scorn separate from those who haven't. Even though SF had plenty of less than stellar members, there were many more good ones that just got caught up in the madness, and most of them wised up and got out. I'd like to think that the same can be said for AOW. So far it looks to me like it's just one nut that needs to be tightened in an otherwise ok group.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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If you were half decent people you could have said "You Are Wrong About People Fel!" but i would like to hear someone say Let's Work On Something Together or Let's Have More Fun Events. I am constantly trying to get people to help each other (so why does everyone find this so offensive?).
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I am sorry but not one of you would accept or put up with the way the rest of you are acting, so why should i!
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The EXACT MESSAGE i got from Cherry-2000 was "i am dropping 3 AOW divisions because we do not see very many messages in coalition and want to make room for some friends sg's"
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There is no-one or supergroup that would NOT take offence to this kind of message, so for all of you to attack my character, shows a lack of your own, i am trying to look out for the best interests of our group.
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The difference between me and all of you is i back my words with actions: If the other 6 leaders of AOW demand it, i will step down as coalition manager, something none of you would do.
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ALL-OUT-WAR is the only true COMMUNITY SG in existance.
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Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
...having non-AOW divisions in coalition does not help our own sg grow. Then people complain we are not big enough, you can't have it both ways.
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The reason i asked the mods to cancel the threads should be obvious. The devs have always tried to clear memory space. This thread is done so....................................
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We are ALL here to have fun, so let's go out and have FUN!
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I just noticed cat's post: Odd you would recommend sg's that have ignored them all this time. You want to recruit but not to actually help them, which is why AOW exists in the first place.
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- Ping (@iltat, @Pinghole)
Don't take it personally if you think I was mean to you. I'm an ******* to everyone.
It's a penguin thing. Pingu FTW.
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Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
If you were half decent people you could have said "You Are Wrong About People Fel!" but i would like to hear someone say Let's Work On Something Together or Let's Have More Fun Events. I am constantly trying to get people to help each other (so why does everyone find this so offensive?)
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Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
The EXACT MESSAGE i got from Cherry-2000 was "i am dropping 3 AOW divisions because we do not see very many messages in coalition and want to make room for some friends sg's"
There is no-one or supergroup that would NOT take offence to this kind of message, so for all of you to attack my character, shows a lack of your own, i am trying to look out for the best interests of our group. |
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The difference between me and all of you is i back my words with actions: If the other 6 leaders of AOW demand it, i will step down as coalition manager, something none of you would do.
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Originally Posted by Felecia_Divine
Toxic you have a right to your opinion, i rely on you to keep me honest, i will consider your words as always, think about my words and actions then get back to me. We went through this before when we dropped PoN, DG, FS, and ToS from coalition, this is not any different, having non-AOW divisions in coalition does not help our own sg grow. Then people complain we are not big enough, you can't have it both ways.
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We are ALL here to have fun, so let's go out and have FUN!
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I just noticed cat's post: Odd you would recommend sg's that have ignored them all this time. You want to recruit but not to actually help them, which is why AOW exists in the first place.
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Id like to say 'thank you' to Felecia for starting 3 of these threads.
When Mod8 deletes one, the drama can flow uninterrupted into the next....pure genius
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Id like to say 'thank you' to Felecia for starting 3 of these threads.
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Are you ******* kidding me? Every single Sg I just listed does not do open recruiting. All of them do various things for the community from running hami raids, community events and give away assloads of money to the server without one drop of damn drama. So if an SG doesn't run RECRUITING events then they are ignoring people? Wow. I don't want to recruit your members and I can assure you the SG's I listed don't want to either. To be quite blunt we know that taking in people from an SG known for drama (and AOW is solely because of you) brings unnecessary problems in to our SG's, in fact several of us learned that lesson after taking in homeless SF members a while back). The only reason I recommended some SG names is to let those people quitting AOW know that there are good SG's out there that are drama-free and actually help their members and community and not just talk a good talk. *cough*| I just noticed cat's post: Odd you would recommend sg's that have ignored them all this time. You want to recruit but not to actually help them, which is why AOW exists in the first place. |
That seems to be the point about SG leadership you are missing. Your SG doesn't grow from openly recruiting people. You can invite 10 new PUG/random person in AP to an SG and a week later 8 of them have quit and the other 2 have never signed back on. SG's get bigger, or more importantly stronger by the members and leaders having a good reputation in the community and teaming with others. When teaming they make new friends who become interested in their SG's. Then quality members are gained. But when you are a ******** and alienate yourself and your SG from the Community and you don't team with the Community then all you can get in the way of members is a bunch of people who don't stick around or who are just there to leech off of the SG to get PL's etc. Let your reputation be your recruiting strategy instead of wasting gaming hours trying to build something up that has no sturdy foundation and is just going to keep crumbling.
Let me tell you why UHB, Pingus, HOJ, RDLV, BOSS, EG, etc are so well known and respected on this server. Its not because they have a lot of members. It is not because of prestige ranking. It is because their members and leaders are very active in the community. They are all respected as being decent gamers and helping others. They all have ZERO drama for the most part.
You are on such a ******* rampage to boost yourself up and be part of the "kool kids" club that you perceive as being important on this server that you keep stepping on the foreheads of those you are pretending like you want to help to get to the top.
People that sincerely want to "help" (word you like to throw out a lot) others do so with no strings attached. Do so without causing discomfort and drama for those that they are trying to help. They do so with no benefit to themselves. (That means not recruiting during these "help" sessions.)
Community Organizers, whether in RL or in a video game are priveledged to serve a community. The community should not have to kiss their *** for that service. You don't throw freaking events like a psycho tyrant and expect people to enjoy your events or respect you. That is something that is earned. Its not earned in one or two events either I can assure you of that.
Look at every other person on this server that regularly throws events. Do you see people going off on them like they do you? Do you see them having to promise billions of dollars in prizes to even get any interest? Peoples reactions to you is because of you. Not your SG. Hell before your event the other day I didn't know not one single person from AOW. The only experience I have had with any AOW members besides yourself is the occassional person on a PUG. I hate to tell you this but most on this server are probably in the same boat. The only thing most of us know about AOW is their leader who keeps bringing drama not only to themselves but to their SG's name.
And just because Ping is full of win, I shall quote him.
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P.S. How the hell has this thread not been smacked or locked yet? Mod8 are you busy playing CO?
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Are you ******* kidding me? Every single Sg I just listed does not do open recruiting. All of them do various things for the community from running hami raids, community events and give away assloads of money to the server without one drop of damn drama. So if an SG doesn't run RECRUITING events then they are ignoring people? Wow. I don't want to recruit your members and I can assure you the SG's I listed don't want to either. To be quite blunt we know that taking in people from an SG known for drama (and AOW is solely because of you) brings unnecessary problems in to our SG's, in fact several of us learned that lesson after taking in homeless SF members a while back). The only reason I recommended some SG names is to let those people quitting AOW know that there are good SG's out there that are drama-free and actually help their members and community and not just talk a good talk. *cough*
That seems to be the point about SG leadership you are missing. Your SG doesn't grow from openly recruiting people. You can invite 10 new PUG/random person in AP to an SG and a week later 8 of them have quit and the other 2 have never signed back on. SG's get bigger, or more importantly stronger by the members and leaders having a good reputation in the community and teaming with others. When teaming they make new friends who become interested in their SG's. Then quality members are gained. But when you are a ******** and alienate yourself and your SG from the Community and you don't team with the Community then all you can get in the way of members is a bunch of people who don't stick around or who are just there to leech off of the SG to get PL's etc. Let your reputation be your recruiting strategy instead of wasting gaming hours trying to build something up that has no sturdy foundation and is just going to keep crumbling. Let me tell you why UHB, Pingus, HOJ, RDLV, BOSS, EG, etc are so well known and respected on this server. Its not because they have a lot of members. It is not because of prestige ranking. It is because their members and leaders are very active in the community. They are all respected as being decent gamers and helping others. They all have ZERO drama for the most part. You are on such a ******* rampage to boost yourself up and be part of the "kool kids" club that you perceive as being important on this server that you keep stepping on the foreheads of those you are pretending like you want to help to get to the top. People that sincerely want to "help" (word you like to throw out a lot) others do so with no strings attached. Do so without causing discomfort and drama for those that they are trying to help. They do so with no benefit to themselves. (That means not recruiting during these "help" sessions.) Community Organizers, whether in RL or in a video game are priveledged to serve a community. The community should not have to kiss their *** for that service. You don't throw freaking events like a psycho tyrant and expect people to enjoy your events or respect you. That is something that is earned. Its not earned in one or two events either I can assure you of that. Look at every other person on this server that regularly throws events. Do you see people going off on them like they do you? Do you see them having to promise billions of dollars in prizes to even get any interest? Peoples reactions to you is because of you. Not your SG. Hell before your event the other day I didn't know not one single person from AOW. The only experience I have had with any AOW members besides yourself is the occassional person on a PUG. I hate to tell you this but most on this server are probably in the same boat. The only thing most of us know about AOW is their leader who keeps bringing drama not only to themselves but to their SG's name. And just because Ping is full of win, I shall quote him. P.S. How the hell has this thread not been smacked or locked yet? Mod8 are you busy playing CO? |
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Don't worry about the whole recruiting deal. Emprad and I have started an ex-AoW sg for the people that dont suck....sorry, felecia, you aren't invited to join our sexxeh parteh (sg name is The Sexy Patrol)
@Celestial Lord and @Celestial Lord Too