Permadom is certainly still desirable I still build all my Doms that way. Double mag, endurance refill and mez protection is priceless. It's just now super high recharge builds aren't needed as much since there's no benefit of stacking Domination anymore.
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Originally Posted by Weatherby Goode
...you could've asked Binju or I, Aggie
 Also: You need to get Eiko to put the base empowerment station in. It grants +20% recharge, and lets you get Permadom 0.5 with only 55% recharge and three slotted hasten. |
Do we still need the base thingy your talking about though?
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Originally Posted by Agonus
Heh. This thread is still going?
I'm the only one that ever answered any of our build help threads, and I try to avoid number crunching in the middle of playing the game. =-p Do we still need the base thingy your talking about though? |
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It really depends on your power sets. I'd say on an Earth/ or Ice/ Dom, there'd be less benefit to Perma-Dom since you've got pretty decent control and Domination isn't going to enhance a lot of your main control powers. On the other hand, for each point of recharge you get, your controls come up that much quicker giving more benefit to building for recharge besides just perma-dom. Also, having status protection is a pretty huge thing, if you ask me.|
Originally Posted by Errant
Kinda curious on that myself. I have a baby Fire/Icy at 35 who is awesome, and debating making a Perma-dom spec for her.
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I decided for my Mind/Energy build to go for both Perma-Dom and lots of defense. It is tough and expensive to do but I'm thinking that when everything comes together, it'll be worth it.
I'm totally new to Doms, coming from MM and Brute, is there any place or any way to get an idea of what powers are must have for mind/psi? It seems there's a shortage of mind doms for RSF and the like, and I'd like to fill a niche. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you.
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Bit confused and need a few answers please people.|
Originally Posted by Da_Captain
Hope your not planning on creating some DBZ knock off toon with like a Mind/Energy powerset to represent the 3 stages of permadom/Super Saiyan...
Because it has been done. Plus it isn't even worth it for stage 3 anymore unless you just want to save a power slot by not getting hasten. Pre i15 stage 3 + hasten would take you to the damage cap for Dom's easily, but now since the only thing Dom increases now is Mag and duration not really worth it to get more than 80 - 100. You don't want 70% it is too close to the edge, you have to keep Dom on auto and hit hasten as soon as it recharges, also if you get hit with one slow it is over, good starting point though. 80 - 100 give you a pretty comfortable positions don't have to hit hasten as soon as it comes up, but I wouldn't wait too long either. Oh yeah Aggie it is easy to get 125% recharge: 5 Luck of the Gamblers, 5 - 7.5% set bonuses, 5 - 10% purple bonuses and you have 125%. However, Binju was Mind/Energy and the Sleep, Confuse, and Stun sets were dirt cheap along Energy being able to stack bonuses very cheaply it did not take much to get to 125%. |
1) What Global reharge do you need for permadom if I plan on not taking hasten, actual % please.
2) Quoted above it says 5 Lotg and 5 Purples.... that's wrong. 5 Lotg @ 7.5% each is 37.5% and 5 purple sets is 50% making a total of 87.5% not 125%.
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125% IIRC although w/ hasten you can quite a bit more which isn't bad.
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Originally Posted by Donna_
Bit confused and need a few answers please people.
1) What Global reharge do you need for permadom if I plan on not taking hasten, actual % please. |
In my expierence, The bare minium I have noticed to make a perma dom is 143% recharge. (I have hasten, but Hasten does not have to be perma, mine was just shy of 10 seconds off of having hasten perma) hope that helps. My dom's are now around 155 recharge at the minimum. having them at 143% you have to act quickly to make sure hasten is up and you have a short time to click on Domination, and you might sometimes miss click it in time. I try to shoot for 150-155+ recharge at the minium as a result.
In terms to if its worth it, its up to the player and what they are trying to accomplish. I will say that Mind/ permadoms are extremely handy in MoRSF's, not always needed but handy none the less. Just my opinion.
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Presenting once again the Three Stages of Permadom, DBZ style:|
Originally Posted by Donna_
Bit confused and need a few answers please people.
1) What Global reharge do you need for permadom if I plan on not taking hasten, actual % please. |
This is a permadom: 70% recharge from IO set bonuses and 6 slotted hasten. Your build may be a bit clunky and you risk frequent power crashes, but congratulations you are now a permadom.
Permadom powers up again:
This is what is known as a permadom that has Ascended past being a permadom, or just call it Permadom 2. 90% recharge from IO's plus 6 slotted hasten is the minimum to achieve this. Your build should be improved and fewer power crashes.
But just wait ..it gets even better ..
Scene switches to Recluse's henchmen:
Ghost Widow: "Has he really found a way to surpass an Ascended Permadom? Is that possible?"
Back Scorpion: "Feh"
Mako: "Bah, he's just bluffing!"
Scirocco: "Yeah, he'd be what; double ascended?"
Scene switches back to the Dominator as his power begins to build "AND THIS ..!"
Lord Recluse: "What the ? What's he doing?"
Dominator: "IS .TO .GO .EVEN FURTHER .BEYOND!" Insert 10 minutes of yelling as he powers up while everyone watches too dumbfounded to do anything
"Sorry that took so long, it takes a bit of time to power up .in this form hasten isn't needed due to having 123% recharge from IO bonuses ..and you can call this Super Permadom Three."
Only way get any better is have a pair of the magic earrings and the right dominator to merge with.
I have a question about perma dom. I keep reading that hasten needs to be 6 slotted even if you have more than 75% global recharge. Why?? I have a lvl 50 perma dom with 90% global recharge and hasten is only 3 slotted and my domination never drops. Hasten isnt quite perma yet.....but as long as my domination never drops...i don't think hasten needs to be perma.
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Some players like having dom and hasten perma. At 90% recharge from IO's you need 6 recahrges in hasten to make them both perma, take away one recharge slot and hasten isn't perma though close.
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Originally Posted by devil dingo
I have a question about perma dom. I keep reading that hasten needs to be 6 slotted even if you have more than 75% global recharge. Why?? I have a lvl 50 perma dom with 90% global recharge and hasten is only 3 slotted and my domination never drops. Hasten isnt quite perma yet.....but as long as my domination never drops...i don't think hasten needs to be perma.
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Talen's correct, Doom. The LoTG special IO gives the bonus "Luck of The Gambler Incread Recharge Speed" which is tracked seperately from "Huge Increased Recharge Speed" which also gives a 7.5% bonus and comes from several sets. For the Rule of 5 it's two different bonuses and both can be stacked 5 times.
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