I'm rich! (well, relatively)
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ClawsandEffect,
Posted on: 2009-08-06 01:58 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I'd just like to point out that the info I gave is mroe or less word for word what I was told by a friend when the markets were added to the game - I asked him how they worked, and he gave me a detailed and confident reply, so I've been using the info I posted here for my own market playing - and it did seem to work, so I never thought he was wrong |
Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
Thank you for saying it PT. I was reading this advice going, "wha...? That is ABSOLUTELY NOT how the auction market works in CoH/V!"
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Fair enough. I was grumpy this morning. And my reaction wasn't just in response to your misconceptions, but more to the aggregate of misconceptions (which then unintentionally become misinformation when restated). And hey, if it's worked for you so far, no harm in that, right? |
Originally Posted by Golden_Girl_EU
I'd just like to point out that the info I gave is mroe or less word for word what I was told by a friend when the markets were added to the game - I asked him how they worked, and he gave me a detailed and confident reply, so I've been using the info I posted here for my own market playing - and it did seem to work, so I never thought he was wrong
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I've only recently gotten into more serious marketeering as I've realized how long it would take me to acquire a set of purples the way I acquire most invention sets: waiting for drops or low bids on the market. I don't have till infinity. At least not any more.
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I don't play the market that much, anyway - I want the last Inf badge, and that's only with earned Inf, so selling doesn't help at all.|
Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
Fair enough. I was grumpy this morning. And my reaction wasn't just in response to your misconceptions, but more to the aggregate of misconceptions (which then unintentionally become misinformation when restated). And hey, if it's worked for you so far, no harm in that, right?
I've only recently gotten into more serious marketeering as I've realized how long it would take me to acquire a set of purples the way I acquire most invention sets: waiting for drops or low bids on the market. I don't have till infinity. At least not any more. |
Plus, I'm full up with IO sets, and while I have purples in storage, I'm not sure if they're relaly that much better than th set bonus I have now.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
I've bought and sold many thousands of items on the market. Possibly hundreds of thousands.
I may have seen a couple of glitches where the market, in front of my eyes, didn't work as it was supposed to.
The rest of the time it has been "highest bid gets lowest listed."
The number of things that looked like glitches is far lower than the number of things where I clearly made a mistake... so I've sort of assumed that the "glitches" were user error as well and I didn't see what I thought I saw.
People have reported, first-hand, a lot of things that looked like market bugs to them. I can't prove or disprove those bugs; all I can say is "It pretty much always works for me."
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
A couple of weeks ago I got Two Miracle Uniques from Random Recipe Rolls in the same night. Which netted me close to 250 million for the pair.
Thought it was funny how this level 45 controller now had more cash than any of my characters.
Was able to donate 100 million to RO's 4th Anniversary prize money.
Is that a hint, Hobo? :-)
I have plans for that windfall. Lots and lots of IO sets for my Ice/Rad controller. LOTS.
Good to see a discussion going on about the market, hope things are being cleared up rather than muddied.
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Ex.
Part-Troll, who used to be Excession777, now playing pantomime with people's mindlets.
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Originally Posted by Part_Troll
Is that a hint, Hobo? :-)
I have plans for that windfall. Lots and lots of IO sets for my Ice/Rad controller. LOTS. Good to see a discussion going on about the market, hope things are being cleared up rather than muddied. |
No not at all. I have several characters in the 100+ zone so I have the cash to spare. And I don't use set IO's on most of my characters, just common IO's.
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However, the highest bidder over the listing price buys the item from the person with the lowest listing price, which is where the incentive to lowball your asking price comes from -- if everyone else is listing a recipe for 50,000, and you list yours for 5, yours will sell before theirs. Of course, if everybody with open bids is trying to catch a lowball offer... but that's the risk you run.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Not true. The highest bid always wins an item (except for certain extremely rare market glitches where bids don't seem to register after you've placed them). There is no way you can bid 10 influence and win the auction while anyone is still bidding 200m influence on the same item.
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"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers
I got a purple melee drop a few months ago and I'm still spending the cash.
can I have your stuff <.<
Volt Sentinel Reference
Thunder is good, thunder is impressive, but lightning does the work.
Christ.
It used to be that the highest-end purples went for no more than 100M. We're talking Apocalypse and Hecatomb here.
I16 can't get here soon enough. Please, please gives us a way to set team sizes so that the farmers can get out of AE and start harvesting salvage and purples again...
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Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
The original post translates to this, at this time in the game.
"I am rich" "Orly? How much u got?" "10 cents" /em boggles |
--NT
They all laughed at me when I said I wanted to be a comedian.
But I showed them, and nobody's laughing at me now!
If I became a red name, I would be all "and what would you mere mortals like to entertain me with today, mu hu ha ha ha!" ~Arcanaville
I'd rather have a normal auction house than the blind bidding we have now. It's more straight forward.
Uber Talgrim - level 50 emp/dark defender
Uber Rod - level 50 dark melee/regen scrapper
Rod Valdr - level 50 invuln/SS tanker
Talgrim - level 50 ninja/dark mastermind
OMG!! Please add these costume designs now!
The market is a stange beast but I do like it!
Doom/Batman in 2012
The Resistance has boobs too, and better hair!
The Resistance has boobs too, and better hair!
Ties are also not decided by date and time of bid placed. I used to think this was true, but in learning how the market works, I tried flooding the same price from four characters on a particular item. 10 stack after 10 stack. The first stack bid out was NOT the first to fill. Nor was there any particular logic to which stacks had 7 items in them, which had none bought, which only had 1 or 3 bought. Beyond that, I don't have any more insight than you regarding how bidding ties are broken.
It was something like... the first bidder got the third item listed, and the second bidder got the second item listed, and the third bidder got the seventh item listed, and the fourth bidder got the first item listed, etc. Exactly the same, every time.
Like I said: weird.
Oh, and to the OP: it's all your fault the number of items for sale is 0!
But seriously, the reason we have so many items where there are 0 for sale is because, when people do list them, they list them for below the market price. You get a quick sale, but then we're back to having 0 on the market. For some reason, despite the many complaints about how the shelves are bare, we rarely see people complain that they're being undercharged, and yet it's that underpricing that causes the shortage. /shrug
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