Gravity Controllers

I Have been rather put down at starting my Gravity Controller. I didn't really research the build, but i went none the less because it sounded cool. But most people have just claimed how [censored] they are.

Anyone want to cheer me up by posting benefits for a Grav Troller?

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I Have been rather put down at starting my Gravity Controller. I didn't really research the build, but i went none the less because it sounded cool. But most people have just claimed how [censored] they are.

Anyone want to cheer me up by posting benefits for a Grav Troller?

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1) You can throw toilets at people

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Seriously Grav is fine on Controllers (Doms is a different story though), sacrificing some early control for some good single-target damage (via the slow firing but hard hitting and always amusing Propel and the lowish damage but usefully soft controlling Lift). With Containment giving you double damage for foes Immobilised, Held, Stunned or Slept you go through a "Lock Down then clobber" playstyle for a while.

It's also a pure ranged Controller which gels well with some secondaries (Storm and Trick Arrow, and suits Empathy and Thermal well too since you don't really want to be in melee if you can help it).

It lacks AOE control until the twenties, Gravity Distortion Field is your ranged AOE Hold but it needs lots of slots (or IOs later on) to really shine. Wormhole is a super power, especially solo, but has it's quirks (annoying smaller AOE than other AOE mezzes, takes 2 seconds to trigger and things will shoot at you, countered nicely by the fact you don't need to be in line of sight of the enemies to fire it off). But if you leverage Wormhole by using it's power to reposition & mez with a secondary like TA or Storm you can do some evil things to spawns, hauling them out of Room of Death into a corner, immobisiling them and dumping 3 or 4 AOE debuffs onto them (Wormhole -> Crushing Field -> Freezing Rain -> Hurricane is a fav for Grav/Storm. Wormhole -> Crushing Field -> Oil Slick -> Disruption Arrow -> Suitable oil slick lighting power for Grav/TA, possibly my favourite attack chain in the game, especially once you get good at wormholing Spawn A into Spawn B and lighting the lot of them all up).

You also get one of the best behaved and useful pets in the game in Singy. He won't win any personality contests (ie he isn't like the ADD imps who run around like Red Bull fuelled 6 year olds, the slightly forgetful Phantasm who often knocks someone out of range and promptly forgets he was fighting them or the plain borked Flytrap), Singy is generally excellently well behaved and doesn't do great damage but he's tough as old boots (can be buffed somewhat, can't be healed) and a great mini-controller.

The reason I say Grav Dominators aren't as good is simply that all Domis get a secondary which does single target damage, so Gravities early main strength is wasted on them.

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I'm afraid I don't know enough about the gravity set to be of any use to you. I tried one a few times but couldn't get on with it.

I wouldn't listen too much about what other people say about it being rubbish though, as long as you have fun playing it that's all that really matters. I've seen plenty of gravity controllers around and some mobs use the set as well, they're no pushover. It has some very good single target damage in the early levels, I didn't keep mine going long enough to discover what it had in the way of AoE holds/damage.

Personally I prefer the fire set for controllers, mainly because I like having psychotic imps following me around and I tend to solo a lot on it. The fire set does a good deal of AoE damage.

I'd stick with the gravity set for a while and see how you get on. You can always try something else without deleting that one if you want a change...unless you've already filled up all your slots!

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No, only got three slots taken. To be honest, i dont think the gravity guy is that bad. He suspends people in mid air immobilized for bpeople to beat the living [censored] out of and deals some releativley ok crushing damage with nearly every move.
Nothing too impressive at level 6 or 7 i cant remember. May go on until 20ish to see if i fancy it and if its pants then ill jib it off!

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I prefer supplying them with equipment they are going to need very shortly - things like Hospital Gurneys, Surgical Instruments, Coffins.

There's also little to beat having a young kid pull a car or fork lift out of mid air and through it at someone that's annoyed her or deciding someone needs to sit down and then throw a sofa at them

I have two Grav/Sonics on Union and Pinnacle - both very capable of soloing EBs from very low level and at high levels they have excelent resists and respectable mez protection but that comes from the secondary. I did try an AV in Faultline (Sands iirc) and got him to about 2/3 health before running out of end so it probably wouldn't take too much to build it into a proper AV killer.

As has already been stated the pet is great - effectively it adds a second 'troller and can soak lot of aggro - with careful placement it can actually make cave maps fun.

The build I have on Pinnacle has a very nice twist for STF in that she should be able to phase two of the towers buffing recluse with Sonic Cage and Dimension Shift

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Mind of Gaia lvl 50 Defiant's first Mind/Storm 'troller.
Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant

I do have a bad habit of hitting the send button before really being ready...

I meant to add that it's the person behind the toon that really matters. There are no useless AT's or powersets in the game. Some are more suited for farming and such things than others but I think that for someone relatively new to the game, fun should come before farming - there's plenty of time for that sort of thing later - after you've become hopelessly addicted like the rest of us...

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I wouldn't listen too much about what other people say about it being rubbish though, as long as you have fun playing it that's all that really matters.

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^This

My only qualm with Gravity is it having a Phase power in place of some more 'useful' mitigation (Ice Slick for Ice trollers, for example). Though carni is by far the expert, and I'd echo what he's said on the matter

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You havent said what your secondary is so i am just guessing here ...

try this for some controller guides

linky

Hope that helps

Personally i found grav ok its just like any other power set you just have to learn to play to its strengths

I used to use wormhole as a damage power by dropping the mobs as well for extra damage or even semi herding as you could use to to split mobs once you had a target and run back and tp them apart with a stun thrown in as well

edit from a guide..........
Wormhole is a Mag 4 teleport and will teleport bosses and elite bosses. After the teleport, Wormhole applies a Mag 3 disorient with an 18 second duration (lvl 50) and a Mag 15 knockback. To my knowledge, his is the longest duration AoE stun in the game. Bosses will not be stunned when they exit, but they will be knocked down. Native EBs will be knocked down but EBs scaled from AVs with the PToD (purple triangles of doom) will not. Wormhole will not teleport arch villains, but it will aggro them, so be aware that they will come looking to rearrange your face if you use it near them.

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My second 50 and my first controller was a Grav/Storm and it is a great toon to play in my opinion.

I find Gravity a very easy set to just pick up and play. As people have already said you get some decent damage early on as well as a good single target hold (which also negates the knockback from the damage powers) and a good AoE hold power which is good for setting up containment.

If I am feeling lazy a very simple attack chain will get me through most encounters without a problem which is Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion, Lift, Propel - rinse and repeat. I then add in wormhole, freezing rain, lightening storm and my AoE epic damage power (currently completely undecided between psychic tornado, fireball and fissure) depending on the situation.

And as people have said Singularity is a nice little controller in a pocket which will do what its told! Resummon it against an AV to take some agro or just hide in it to protect yourself. I also find it helps when holding AVs as the sings hold power will stack with my own.

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I used to play grav trollers back in i2-i5, left until a couple of days ago and now back, again with a grav troller.

My main used to be Grav/Rad, now it's Grav/Thermal; slotted right I find them to be the best toons for me, a lot of team support power, a good amount of control and most of all, damn fun to play.

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Blackhat
Dr Blackhat - Empathy/Rad Defender
Blackhat von Radon - Fire/Rad Controller
Blackhat von Tinder - Fire/Kin Controller
Blackhat von Sizzle - Fire/Fire Blaster

Gravity isnt that bad for trollers.
Doms have it worse.

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I was looking at Gravs the other day and thought "wouldnt it be nice if they did some trick the others didnt?" Looking at Propel it has a range of a cone attack yet isn't a cone but maybe rightly so. I thought perhaps though, a chance to be a AoE every so often might make it look a little more equal in the earlier levels. Yes way is it as controllery as the others. But the AoE foe intangible thing is a less likely used power, so in light of that I think it'll be cooler that it had a chance for AoE effect and upon them chance fors you don't see the small table or lamp shade etc, that'll be when you see the fork truck or car.
I think that given the likely use of Dimension Shift it'll be a neat new way of balancing the set.

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He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

We do have an AoE immob as well.

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Blackhat
Dr Blackhat - Empathy/Rad Defender
Blackhat von Radon - Fire/Rad Controller
Blackhat von Tinder - Fire/Kin Controller
Blackhat von Sizzle - Fire/Fire Blaster

Every control set except Illusion has an AoE immob, ours is unique in that it doesnt actually immobolise foes ><

to Shannon: all well and good making it when you say a big item gfx, but while you see a car, others could see a lamp, as the gfx dont link, it just picks a random one for you to see, and everyone elses comps do the same.

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Can I second my learned friend's opinion? There's a certain joy when anyone says "WTHBBQ? You just threw a pool table/lamppost/car/priceless ming vase(delete as applicable) at that guy!"

I play Gravity/Storm, which is a pretty lethal combination - though it tends to annoy the herd-mentality tanks out there.

Also, I think the Bowling Ball of DOOM is one of the best 'troller pets - virtually indestructible, has good hold powers that complement your own for OVERPOWER damage, and - best of all - Auto-Repel, so if you stick close to it enemies and Stalkers will find it very hard to melee.

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Is it time for the dance of joy yet?

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Gravity isnt that bad for trollers.
Doms have it worse.

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Bite your tongue gravity doms are bad [censored] :P

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