kilop

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I wish we all were..... I12 PvP roll back pl0x.

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I also like this

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Zonal and Arena PvP are different. Zone = anything goes, Arena = Rules definated at start of match.

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Yes to this.

I brought my dom into RV about a week ago and was fighting 2 scrappers , I Lost a few times. Than I saw a heavy, hid behing the atlas city hall sent in my heavy first and than I joined in once they were distracted. I killed one and the other ran away. I dont regreat it or think its unfair.

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While your at it. Fix the heavys too. In fact, remove them.
Thanks.

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Tbh, it's the morons who use them in PvP that ruin it. Tis for an equal fight m'lurd.

My ar£e.

Fury

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I disagree If you can use insps and temps in pvp the there should be no problem with someone using a heavy.

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Finding Union to be unplayable at the moment. Constant map servers

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Yup same here after I kill a mob I have to /synch, first time its actully worked for me!, before I moved on. Also I just restarted my computer a few mins ago and noticed It took 2 or 3 tries to connect to the Updater

Excellent turnout great fun. I’ve never seen that many villains in Rv before.
The power of my Grav/fire Dom really shows when redside has 5/1 advantage

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Eg.
Split say "RV" in 4 Quadrants.

Top Left = Free for all, Same rules as Warburg
Top Right = IO's don't work
Botttom Left = something else
Bottom Right = somethign else

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That sounds a bit awkward.

We seem to all agree on an I12 rollback the next step is will the devs listin , who is in charge of these changes to the game?
Is it Jay or Back Alley Brawler ect...

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The only effect that this would have on the WW markets would be to drop the price of IO’s as they would also be available elsewhere… this cannot be a bad thing, it’s something that is needed badly with single IO’s now costing in excess of 100 Million Inf

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Disregarding whether or not prices are too high ( a different conversation ), this idea is changing the whole principle of IO's. A couple of major problems; 1) non-pvpers will complain that they have to buy IO's from other players whereas pvp'ers can buy them with earned XP leading to 2) PVE'rs ( the core of the game in all honesty ) will then demand a similar thing in PVE. I cannot see this happening.

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Isnt the Ma ticket system already doing a similar thing for doing Ma Missions.

If there was a roll back to I13-I12 for pvp, does that mean people would be complaining about blasters been overpowered again?.
If memory serves me I think that was a big problem back then.

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Gravity isnt that bad for trollers.
Doms have it worse.

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Bite your tongue gravity doms are bad [censored] :P

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Why don't people have the arranged PvP night in Zones?
That way you will get more people trying something new and possibly staying if they enjoyed themself.

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Sure why not lets see how the rv pvp night will go hopefully we will get a good turnout. Don’t get me wrong I like zonal pvp I just really liked the big arena matches. I feel we can balance the team numbers better I mean if I turn up to RV and there is 10 heros and 4 villains Ill still go out and fight but it would probably take the fun out of it after a while for villains getting pwned and the heros having no real challenge but if we were in the arena we could get two teams of 7.



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Ill tell u what it will take! ME! I am the ANSWER! add "Union's PvP Hotline" to your chat channel's this will keep you updated on future PvP events. iv already got a PVP night set up for Monday 27th of April starts 7pm in RV. BE THERE! TELL UR FRIENDS! more people the better! make sure you tell ur SG members, and id appreciate it if you can set it as ur message of the day's if this is a good turn out, maybe PvP can be restored on union server! Thanx

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I like this but I have an exam Tuesday morning and might not be there , but ill try.


I just want to point out that my initial suggestion for disabling Ios wasn’t focused on all pvp zones , I would be irritated of all the time I spent farming for my purples, but having a disable ios option in arena so we could have it as an option for event nights if we were going to have one but after reading rooks post I think it may be futile to try and please people who don’t pvp and since a large amount of pvpers left the game due to i13,i14 changes then I think maybe a roll back, or an optional roll back in arena , (yes I am pushing this J ) is in order to maybe bring them back and stop others from leaving.

Im sure the goal of nsoft isn’t to lose revenue with modifications to the game but in saying that people who are in charge hate to admit when they have made a mistake which could lead to further drops in subscriptions. I also wonder if posting here is having an effect I don’t know how much say the European Red Names have about the future of the game in that case its not there fault what has happened. I wonder how the larger American Pvp community feels about this .
Do they agree with the effect of the last 2 issues to the pvp community?
Have they experienced players dropping?
If so is this a concern for nsoft business in the current times?
Should they consider a roll back?

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Just so you know Kilop that wasn't directed at you, it's just me joining in on the discussion

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Thats cool I thought I hit a nerve initialy.
Its my intention here to make this constructive to the pvp community by finding ways in bringing in more players.
Im still feeling around this new system since ive been gone since last september but i do feel there is alot less action atm. I would like to see a few pvp nights like we had back in the day.

Rent

100% agree with your points

People should stop been mardy with defeat but if your new to anything and play against someone who is vastly more experienced than you and they thrash you completely each time chances are you will interest and you wont come back.

I also agree with an experienced player will always beat a newbie no matter what , but Im just putting out the point that the introduction of higher global bonuses increases the learning curve of pvp. I mean if you take 2 players of the same level of experience and give them both blasters of the same power sets and give one guy the advantages of been fully Ioed , I would think that that guy is going to win 9/10 times.

Its hard enough for you to fight someone who is already vastly more experienced but in order to compete in pvp now you have to put more time into pve so you can get influence and drops for your toon which takes you away form the zones during play time.

Donna

I don’t really want to force people into the arena and away from zones but atm people aren’t going to zones. Its just that I thought the option of suppressing global bonuses in arena would get more people to come along, that other wise wouldn’t come because off this off put, if we arrange pvp nights in Pd like we used to have. They were fun I went there my first time with a level 30 dominator and I still had a laugh and it got me interested then in going to Sc and RV.

Would you like to disable Global bonuses for pvp if it ment more people would get involved?

How about a new option in arena and leave zonal as it is?

How about regulating the markets so the price of Ios dont fall out of the casual gamers reach?

Pvp is very expensive to get involved with as the amount of time it takes to :

1st - get a toon to 50
2nd Farming to get recipes influence so you can buy purple Ios

After reading Knight Stalkers goodbye post I have to agree it does make the game very monotones and I know I spent hours farming my Dom to get him to 50 and even more time farming for influence to the point that I got sick of it and left the game. Recently I re subscribed to see the MA, which is uber cool indeed!, I promised myself no more farming but as I want to get another pvp toon I found myself doing the same thing but to be honest I don’t have the time or the patience to do it again.

Ios are a semi good idea in pvp they allow you to “Pimp Your Player” out, change him up a bit and maybe have an opportunity to play him in a new way and in theory this should have been a godsend for pvp but its having the opposite effect.

I think pvp is the natural extension of the game, for me anyway, after killing thousands and thousands of artificial mobs I want to fight a human controlled player before Ios you could walk into a zone and just play and probably lose your first few times but now your not just dealing with a more experienced players you have to deal with global bonuses that widen this gap even more and I think this puts a lot of people off the idea of playing it long term as they are not willing to put all that time into farming which I think is a requirement of pvp atm.

Is there downtime today from 1pm GMT?
My updater is unable to connect I was playing fine this morning.

Is it possible that someone can upload these to youtube?

Ya a lot more vilians turned up by the end.When I first arrived on scene I was ganked by an 8 man team, but once reinforementrs arrived it turned in our favour.
Good fun over all.

Cox Is alot better than Wow in my exp I think nsoft should do more to promote it.
Wow is more well known but Cox is far superior.

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Im sure quite a few students are entering and playing at uni isnt always straight forward and often not possible so if we could have say 2 matches a sat on the 6th, 13th, 20th would make it a lot easier, would also benefit the tournie to see progress quickly. I'm sure people generally preferred the way the Squished tournie worked where the excitement built quickly towards the final by having all matches in one night - this isnt really practical given the 20 minute matches but 2-3 matches a week will prevent it dragging like the Duel tournie did.

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Ya but for us students not friday and saturday nights after 8pm.

Mayby say theres a badge for winning , You might entice the badgers over

Ya I have to agree, mayby even a set of purps or some inf
But a signed art book dosent really do it for me,
Im still entering and all just not for the prize

to be honset I dont have much xp playing will power,
What would you suggest for slotting for thoses powers u suggested?
Edit
Ah I see i dont mean this is the ultimate build It was just something i put down for a title

I want to build this brute for PVE and I was wondereing am I wasting my time with all my focus on accuracy as I have a huge tohit with rage.
also If some one can come up with a more cost effective version of this that would be very helpful.





Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.4006

http://www.cohplanner.com/



Level 50 Magic Brute

Primary Power Set: Super Strength

Secondary Power Set: Willpower

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Fitness

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Leadership

Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery



Villain Profile:

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Level 1: Punch

(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50

(3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

(3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

(5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

(7) Accuracy IO: Level 50





Level 1: High Pain Tolerance

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30

(7) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30

(23) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30





Level 2: Haymaker

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50

(9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

(9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30

(11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50





Level 4: Mind Over Body

(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50

(34) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50

(36) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50





Level 6: Fast Healing

(A) Miracle - Heal/Recharge: Level 40

(17) Miracle - Heal: Level 40

(17) Miracle - Heal/Endurance: Level 40

(23) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50





Level 8: Knockout Blow

(A) Hecatomb - Damage: Level 50

(13) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(13) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(15) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(15) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

(46) Accuracy IO: Level 50





Level 10: Indomitable Will

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50

(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50

(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

(37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 40





Level 12: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50





Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Jumping IO: Level 50





Level 16: Rise to the Challenge

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

(37) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50

(37) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

(39) Healing IO: Level 50





Level 18: Rage

(A) Recharge Reduction

(19) Recharge Reduction

(19) Recharge Reduction





Level 20: Quick Recovery

(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50

(21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50

(21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50

(40) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(40) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50

(46) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50





Level 22: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO: Level 50





Level 24: Health

(A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance: Level 40

(25) Miracle - Heal: Level 40

(25) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40





Level 26: Stamina

(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50

(27) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50

(27) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(40) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50

(43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50





Level 28: Heightened Senses

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50

(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50

(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 40

(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50





Level 30: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

(31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

(31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50





Level 32: Foot Stomp

(A) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50

(33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(34) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

(34) Accuracy IO: Level 50





Level 35: Resurgence

(A) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(50) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50





Level 38: Strength of Will

(A) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30

(39) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30

(39) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Recharge: Level 30





Level 41: Mu Lightning

(A) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50

(42) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50





Level 44: Ball Lightning

(A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50

(45) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50

(45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(45) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(46) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50





Level 47: Summon Striker

(A) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage: Level 50

(48) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(48) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50

(48) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

(50) Accuracy IO: Level 50





Level 49: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50





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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty





Level 1: Sprint

(A) Empty





Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty





Level 1: Fury

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Set Bonus Totals:

16% DamageBuff(Smashing)

16% DamageBuff(Lethal)

16% DamageBuff(Fire)

16% DamageBuff(Cold)

16% DamageBuff(Energy)

16% DamageBuff(Negative)

16% DamageBuff(Toxic)

16% DamageBuff(Psionic)

3% Defense(Smashing)

3% Defense(Lethal)

3% Defense(Fire)

3% Defense(Cold)

3% Defense(Energy)

3% Defense(Negative)

3% Defense(Psionic)

3% Defense(Melee)

3% Defense(Ranged)

3% Defense(AoE)

70% Enhancement(Accuracy)

62.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

348.6 HP (23.3%) HitPoints

Knockback (Mag -4)

Knockup (Mag -4)

MezResist(Held) 3.3%

MezResist(Immobilize) 5.5%

MezResist(Sleep) 4.4%

21.5% (0.36 End/sec) Recovery

84% (5.26 HP/sec) Regeneration

7.56% Resistance(Fire)

7.56% Resistance(Cold)







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Set Bonuses:

Mako's Bite

(Punch)

MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%

22.5 HP (1.5%) HitPoints

3% DamageBuff(All)

MezResist(Held) 3.3%





Steadfast Protection

(High Pain Tolerance)

1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery

22.5 HP (1.5%) HitPoints

3% Defense(All)

Knockback Protection (Mag -4)





Crushing Impact

(Haymaker)

MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%

16.9 HP (1.13%) HitPoints

7% Enhancement(Accuracy)

5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Titanium Coating

(Mind Over Body)

MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%

22.5 HP (1.5%) HitPoints





Miracle

(Fast Healing)

2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery

28.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints





Hecatomb

(Knockout Blow)

4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery

2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)

15% Enhancement(Accuracy)

10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Luck of the Gambler

(Indomitable Will)

10% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration

16.9 HP (1.13%) HitPoints

9% Enhancement(Accuracy)





Luck of the Gambler

(Combat Jumping)

7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Numina's Convalescence

(Rise to the Challenge)

12% (0.75 HP/sec) Regeneration

28.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints





Efficacy Adaptor

(Quick Recovery)

16.9 HP (1.13%) HitPoints

1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery

10% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration

2.5% DamageBuff(All)

5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Miracle

(Health)

2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery

28.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints





Efficacy Adaptor

(Stamina)

16.9 HP (1.13%) HitPoints

1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery

10% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration

2.5% DamageBuff(All)

5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Luck of the Gambler

(Heightened Senses)

10% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration

16.9 HP (1.13%) HitPoints

9% Enhancement(Accuracy)





Armageddon

(Foot Stomp)

4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery

2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)

15% Enhancement(Accuracy)

10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Efficacy Adaptor

(Resurgence)

16.9 HP (1.13%) HitPoints (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)





Impervious Skin

(Strength of Will)

MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%

22.5 HP (1.5%) HitPoints





Apocalypse

(Mu Lightning)

16% (1 HP/sec) Regeneration

45 HP (3%) HitPoints

4% DamageBuff(All)

10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Ragnarok

(Ball Lightning)

4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery

2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)

15% Enhancement(Accuracy)

10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)





Soulbound Allegiance

(Summon Striker)

16% (1 HP/sec) Regeneration

45 HP (3%) HitPoints

4% DamageBuff(All)













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Thanks for your comments. I actually resigned from the team i was playing for last night as i was tired of the accusation.

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Thats to bad I mean you go to all this work to get a pvp tornement together cause you like to pvp only to have yourself get excluded for doing something constructive for the community, even though its not your job since you pay for a subscription like every other player in this game.

I hope the Devs give you some sort of reward for your effort.

That sounds good I havent run any numbers of this yet im still waiting to see if I can get a few more intrested.
Although id like to to get an 8 man team id be happy to start the team with 5 now.